How Tyreke FITS with our current roster...

[rpa]

Question. Why does the '1' have to be the 'playmaker' on our roster? I've ALWAYS liked the idea of having a Hedo/Christie-like wing to play at the '3' next to Martin and Evans.

Because if he's not, it means he is being moved off the ball--where he's considerably less effective. Otherwise, I would be all for that.

Exactly. If Evans were a good shooter then all of this would be moot. But the one thing that we know for a fact about Evans is that he's a POOR outside shooter (at this point).

[Hardaway 10]

Okay, so go on ANY blog, and I mean ANY blog about the Kings and Tyreke and you'll see a strong sentiment from non-Kings fans that Tyreke Evans is NOT a PG. He can't shoot, he's not a playmaker, he can't distribute. Great player, but he's a '2-guard', cuz he can't shoot worth a lick.

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I look at Tyreke Evans, and see this. A guard. A guard who is bigger, stronger, faster and longer than almost all other guards that he'll ever match up against. Why is this advantageous? Because nearly EVERY single star player in the league has one thing in common. They physically outmatch their competition at their respective positions.
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So let's turn back to Tyreke now. His game right now is a bit raw, but he FLOURISHES when he dominates the ball and finishes AT THE BASKET. He has the ball-handling skills and physical tools to break down his opponents, get to the basket and FINISH.

A lot of the same things were said about D-Wade when he first came into the NBA (minus the bigger and longer).

[AriesMar27]

Okay, so go on ANY blog, and I mean ANY blog about the Kings and Tyreke and you'll see a strong sentiment from non-Kings fans that Tyreke Evans is NOT a PG. He can't shoot, he's not a playmaker, he can't distribute. Great player, but he's a '2-guard', cuz he can't shoot worth a lick.

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I look at Tyreke Evans, and see this. A guard. A guard who is bigger, stronger, faster and longer than almost all other guards that he'll ever match up against. Why is this advantageous? Because nearly EVERY single star player in the league has one thing in common. They physically outmatch their competition at their respective positions.
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So let's turn back to Tyreke now. His game right now is a bit raw, but he FLOURISHES when he dominates the ball and finishes AT THE BASKET. He has the ball-handling skills and physical tools to break down his opponents, get to the basket and FINISH.

A lot of the same things were said about D-Wade when he first came into the NBA (minus the bigger and longer).

and in the end wade isnt a pg either... lebron tried it and it didnt work, what makes everyone think that tyreke evans can do what wade and lebron couldnt do? and he cant shoot.... he might become a great player one day but it wont be at pg... though he wouldnt be the most athletic sg in the world he would still be a pretty good player. what that means for martin or evans time with the kings is another issue. but tyreke evans will not be a pg for much of his career. hell he might not ever be a full time pg in the nba. the kings still have sergio and beno who are legit pgs.... though beno sucks and is a career back up. sergio is a pure pg and if tyreke slips up in the beginning of the season sergio may take his spot.

tyreke has all the makings of a scorer... bibby is a gunner but he averaged 8 assists per game before he came to the kings. he was a real pg, not the shoot first pg that he is now..... evans wished he had half of the pg skills that bibby had or has i guess...

[sacking101]

Dwayne wade and baron davis were not the best of shooters in college but developed into them. Both guys can play point and are bigger then most pgs they would go up against just like tyreke. You can become a better shooter but you can't teach size, thats why i'm not worried at all about tyeke.

[rpa]

Dwayne wade and baron davis were not the best of shooters in college but developed into them. Both guys can play point and are bigger then most pgs they would go up against just like tyreke. You can become a better shooter but you can't teach size, thats why i'm not worried at all about tyeke.

Huh? Both Wade and Davis are still God-awful outside shooters. Take a look at the 3pt %'s Davis has put up the last few years: 30%, 33%, 30%, 31%, 34%, 32%. Career wise he's a 32% 3pt shooter. That's absolutely DREADFUL for a guard who takes 5+ per game. Wade's even worse: a career 29% 3pt shooter who's never had a % higher than 31.7%.

I'm not saying a guy CAN'T come in and learn how to shoot from distance but, for the most part, it rarely happens where a guy goes from horrible outside shooter to above average.

[KF10]

Huh? Both Wade and Davis are still God-awful outside shooters. Take a look at the 3pt %'s Davis has put up the last few years: 30%, 33%, 30%, 31%, 34%, 32%. Career wise he's a 32% 3pt shooter. That's absolutely DREADFUL for a guard who takes 5+ per game. Wade's even worse: a career 29% 3pt shooter who's never had a % higher than 31.7%.

I'm not saying a guy CAN'T come in and learn how to shoot from distance but, for the most part, it rarely happens where a guy goes from horrible outside shooter to above average.

To be fair, Wade has one of the best midrange games in the NBA IMO.

Only 3 people in the NBA scored more on their midrange shots:

Dirk, Bryant and West.

Let's look at their percentages on 2 point jumpshots:

1) Dirk: .474% (14)
2) Bryant: .439% (10.9)
3) West: .418% (9.8)
4) Wade: .431% (9.4)
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5) Paul: .479% (8.7)
6) Bosh: .442% (8.7)
7) Hamilton: .419% (8.6)
8) Durant: .399% (8.5)

The point is that Wade was a midrange threat around the league. To say Wade is a horrible outside shooter is incorrect. He is very good at the 18 foot range and inside. Yes, he is still a poor three point shooter (I think that is the better term) but he is still improving in that aspect.

I would be totally be fine if Evans developed an awesome midrange game and had a rather average three point game.

[sacking101]

I didn't know that Davis' numbers were that poor i guess he just gives off that look as an outside shooter because he hits some tough shots. But Wade has improved a lot and there are tons of guys that came into the league as poor shooters and have improved which was really my point in saying that tyreke will improve not arguing about davis and wade.

[pillwenney]

and in the end wade isnt a pg either... lebron tried it and it didnt work, what makes everyone think that tyreke evans can do what wade and lebron couldnt do? and he cant shoot.... he might become a great player one day but it wont be at pg... though he wouldnt be the most athletic sg in the world he would still be a pretty good player. what that means for martin or evans time with the kings is another issue. but tyreke evans will not be a pg for much of his career. hell he might not ever be a full time pg in the nba. the kings still have sergio and beno who are legit pgs.... though beno sucks and is a career back up. sergio is a pure pg and if tyreke slips up in the beginning of the season sergio may take his spot.

tyreke has all the makings of a scorer... bibby is a gunner but he averaged 8 assists per game before he came to the kings. he was a real pg, not the shoot first pg that he is now..... evans wished he had half of the pg skills that bibby had or has i guess...

I don't disagree with some of what you say, but I have a couple of points.

Arguably, Wade and James both essentially still are their teams prospective PG's. Both are their teams clear assist leaders and primary playmakers. And if Tyreke decides to dedicate himself to improving that part of his game, I'm at least hoping he can become essentially that.

I will say that I would like to get a point-SF type not to move him off the ball much, but to handle just some of the duties--like taking the ball up. I just think it'll be important to have another ball-handler in the line-up, since I wouldn't really classify Kevin as that.

[Canomad]

potential roy. i wonder if he is the solution long term for the pg position though.

[Smills91]

Okay, so go on ANY blog, and I mean ANY blog about the Kings and Tyreke and you'll see a strong sentiment from non-Kings fans that Tyreke Evans is NOT a PG. He can't shoot, he's not a playmaker, he can't distribute. Great player, but he's a '2-guard', cuz he can't shoot worth a lick.

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I look at Tyreke Evans, and see this. A guard. A guard who is bigger, stronger, faster and longer than almost all other guards that he'll ever match up against. Why is this advantageous? Because nearly EVERY single star player in the league has one thing in common. They physically outmatch their competition at their respective positions.
==================================================================
So let's turn back to Tyreke now. His game right now is a bit raw, but he FLOURISHES when he dominates the ball and finishes AT THE BASKET. He has the ball-handling skills and physical tools to break down his opponents, get to the basket and FINISH.

A lot of the same things were said about D-Wade when he first came into the NBA (minus the bigger and longer).

and in the end wade isnt a pg either... lebron tried it and it didnt work, what makes everyone think that tyreke evans can do what wade and lebron couldnt do? and he cant shoot.... he might become a great player one day but it wont be at pg... though he wouldnt be the most athletic sg in the world he would still be a pretty good player. what that means for martin or evans time with the kings is another issue. but tyreke evans will not be a pg for much of his career. hell he might not ever be a full time pg in the nba. the kings still have sergio and beno who are legit pgs.... though beno sucks and is a career back up. sergio is a pure pg and if tyreke slips up in the beginning of the season sergio may take his spot.

tyreke has all the makings of a scorer... bibby is a gunner but he averaged 8 assists per game before he came to the kings. he was a real pg, not the shoot first pg that he is now..... evans wished he had half of the pg skills that bibby had or has i guess...

No, but they ARE superstars. So I look at it like this. Superstar or Point Guard? I think either is a win-win for the Kings.