should Nocioni be benched?

[SacKingZZZ]

You know Nocioni is pretty important for this team, believe it or not I think this stretch is proving he's actually that last straw between this team winning or losing. He plays great and we seem to win, he plays bad and we just look bad. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing. Depends on how many nights he plays well as opposed to how many nights he doesn't.

[pillwenney]

You know Nocioni is pretty important for this team, believe it or not I think this stretch is proving he's actually that last straw between this team winning or losing. He plays great and we seem to win, he plays bad and we just look bad. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing. Depends on how many nights he plays well as opposed to how many nights he doesn't.

I don't think it's that he's important, it's that he's wildly inconsistent. Some games he can't miss, and in those games he's another legitimate offensive option that can make some ridiculous shots. When he's not on, his play is completely detrimental to the team.

[OGSactownballer]

You know Nocioni is pretty important for this team, believe it or not I think this stretch is proving he's actually that last straw between this team winning or losing. He plays great and we seem to win, he plays bad and we just look bad. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing. Depends on how many nights he plays well as opposed to how many nights he doesn't.

See though this is the problem we have at the SF position. Our options are to be young and inconsistent or old and inconsistent. Personally, I would rather have the two young players who need the experience give me the same level of production that the older higher-paid player does. That's the conundrum here. We have two guys (not thinking about Cisco right now as he is out for a while longer and we know what he brings) who both have the POTENTIAL to take that next step up as a player to very good full time starter or even more. Noc on the other hand is almost 30 and you see what you are going to get. With a longer, more athletic and better player starting in front of him, he is an ideal b/u. But you have to let those guys get the minutes to prove that they WILL BE better.

[XeOnagain]

You know Nocioni is pretty important for this team, believe it or not I think this stretch is proving he's actually that last straw between this team winning or losing. He plays great and we seem to win, he plays bad and we just look bad. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing. Depends on how many nights he plays well as opposed to how many nights he doesn't.

See though this is the problem we have at the SF position. Our options are to be young and inconsistent or old and inconsistent. Personally, I would rather have the two young players who need the experience give me the same level of production that the older higher-paid player does. That's the conundrum here. We have two guys (not thinking about Cisco right now as he is out for a while longer and we know what he brings) who both have the POTENTIAL to take that next step up as a player to very good full time starter or even more. Noc on the other hand is almost 30 and you see what you are going to get. With a longer, more athletic and better player starting in front of him, he is an ideal b/u. But you have to let those guys get the minutes to prove that they WILL BE better.

that's what i've been talking about this all time! spot on mate!

[pillwenney]

I don't think anybody's really disagreeing. The problem is that we still can't bench Noc, because that will kill his trade value more than anything. We should certainly be looking to move him though.

[KF10]

Well, he did said he is fine with any role with the team. Starting or not, he is still going to play hard as usual.

If that's the case (and assuming no significant drop off from his game), I think Nocioni is an ideal player off the bench. I think having players like Nocioni and Beno off the bench is fantastic. Those are very solid players nonetheless.

And Casspi gets the nod of being a starter.

[pillwenney]

Well yeah, it's ultimately about minutes. As long as his minutes don't see a significant decrease, I'm theoretically fine with him coming off the bench.

My concern would be that he would be seen as more of a main option off the bench. The way I see it, the more ball-dominant players playing with Noc, the better. So I'd to see him get most of his minutes with Tyreke.

This is partly Westphal's fault too though. At times, it really does seem like we're going to him for offense, and that's just smart. If we fed Spencer and Jason down low more and had Noc coming off of screens less, this team would be much better off.

[MilBucksBackOnTop06]

The more i watch the more i'm disgusted with his choker attitude, oh and the bricks he lays on a nightly basis. he chucks up stupid,unnecessary shots which totally kill the team's momentum. His percentages suck of course, but that's not the biggest issue. Like the Miami game where he forced his shot sooooo many times instead of passing, it is clear that this drunk Argentinean thinks he's a better player then many of our Kings. Last year he bithced about the Kings sucking(duh, you idiot, what did you expect from that young team), and this year, he lierally kills our offensive flow. Greene makes the same mistakes, but he's 21, Omri too. I think it's time for Andres "DUI" Nocioni to sit on the bench until his eventual trade. He can get his minutes with the second unit. No reason to have a choker in the starting 5 at age 30, when we have a similar one in Greene.(his god-damn awful shot selection is not like Noce, he's just young). Let him develop. What do you guys think about the Brickmaster Nocioni?

I love Nocioni. I wish we could trade for him and give you Carlos Delfino. I don't know what you are talking about. Noce is a warrior. I look forward to seeing him play in Milwaukee tonite...as I will of your entire team.
I enjoy your squad. You have some nice young players on your team I enjoy seeing them develop.
JT, Donte', Tyreke, Beno, Casspi, and KMart when he is healthy...
Nocioni just does not fit in with what you are doing but he is a good player. You are not using him right and he is not in the game with the right players...if I can speak so freely.

But good young ballclub. I like the commaraderie of your team and enjoy KingsTV. on YouTube and check it regularly...I loved the popcorn in JT's ride...and 'The Donte' Greene Show. LOL....

I begged my Bucks to draft Greene, Bayless or JT over Joe Alexander a year ago..but they passed. I hope to se your guys put on a show Saturday Night at the BC...I might take some pictures and come back tommorrow night and post them here...Good luck.

[SacKingZZZ]

Well get ready because the Kings are crap on the road! hahaha.

[khoffman3113]

Hey MilBucksBackOnTop06 good to see a Bucks fans perspective on the Kings, thanks for your opinion! You knew that the Bucks are going to be the 1st team to not pick up an option on a lottery pick with Joe Alexander!?

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There was one play yesterday during the 1st or 2nd Q, I think it was Deng's 7th FG, Noc was guarding Deng, Deng spin and move a bit inside to rise for a shot, Nocioni reluctantly reached and barely contested the jump shot, Deng of course sank that shot, it might've been distorted in my mind, I don't know if any body noticed it, but it was really disgusting to watch.

[villatrynity154]

Well, he did said he is fine with any role with the team. Starting or not, he is still going to play hard as usual.

If that's the case (and assuming no significant drop off from his game), I think Nocioni is an ideal player off the bench. I think having players like Nocioni and Beno off the bench is fantastic. Those are very solid players nonetheless.

And Casspi gets the nod of being a starter.

right.....when the season started and i was doing my yearly analisys on nba teams and their rosters i was looking at the kings and felt we were lucky to have a guy like nocioni cause he's a hustler.......everytime he's on the court he's playing hard and he bothers ppl on defense....now i knew his stay would be short term but i was also hoping he would stay the whole season......see character is transferable...behavior is learned.....and when you have a hardnose defensive minded player on your team (AND HAVE GREAT TEAM QUEMISTRY) you just simply keep him...if anything so that his tendencies rub off on your young guys....that's work ethic on the basketball court.....i trade talent from the bench for hard work off the bench anytime....so i say keep nocioni until our youth has nothing more to learn from him....which should be by the end of this season...

wow i can honestly say that out of the 30 teams in the league we are one of the lucky one that shouldn't be worrying about the summer of lebron.......we shouldn't be paying attention AT all to free agency as we have most of the pieces we need already on this team...

[SacTownKings4Life]

wow i can honestly say that out of the 30 teams in the league we are one of the lucky one that shouldn't be worrying about the summer of lebron.......we shouldn't be paying attention AT all to free agency as we have most of the pieces we need already on this team...

I agree. We are the next Hawks/Blazers. I believe we are Martin, Garcia, and another solid big man away from contending again. We are NOT going to sign a major free agent next summer anyway, so I think we should focus on the nucleus we have right now and develop them to their full potential, while pluging in that extra piece up front. We have a potential superstar right in our own backyard (Evans), and I honestly believe that that is the most we can hope for in small-town Sacramento. Drafting solid players. The only way we get another high profile player is if we could somehow Pau Gasol or Kevin Garnett them. (trash for cash)