Nuggets vs Kings (12/28)

[City of Trees]

Brockman 10 rebounds in 17 minutes. Hawes 3 rebounds in 23 minutes?? I know Hawes is young and has some ways to go BUT, is this guy showing a pattern of a lazy player? do you guys think that Hawes not playing in summer league was really a "misunderstanding" or did he just not wanna play? Brockman is going out on the court 4 inches shorter boxing out against the same players as Spenc. Whats the deal?

[Nicky Nix Nook]

Went to the game. Kept waiting for the collapse. No one has told this team that they're not supposed to win. They never think that. Love it.

Jon Brockman. I literally don't have any words to say.

Such a different culture. I love it.

[SacTownKings4Life]

AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
3 Games.
3 of the league's top teams come into Arco.
First 2 games go down to the wire, but the Kings fail to close out with the ball in Tyreke Evans' hands.
Tyreke sprains ankle and does not play next game against nuggets.
Remaining Kings band together and FINALLY get over the hump without so much as an overtime session.
Homestand against league's elite.
Record w/ Evans = 0-2.
Record w/o Evans = 1-0.
DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE KINGS ARE A BETTER TEAM WITHOUT TYREKE EVANS???
SHOULD WE TRADE HIM FOR SOME PROSPECTS AND/OR PICKS???
Just curious...

[XeOnagain]

Brockman 10 rebounds in 17 minutes. Hawes 3 rebounds in 23 minutes?? I know Hawes is young and has some ways to go BUT, is this guy showing a pattern of a lazy player? do you guys think that Hawes not playing in summer league was really a "misunderstanding" or did he just not wanna play? Brockman is going out on the court 4 inches shorter boxing out against the same players as Spenc. Whats the deal?

QFT.. hawes is a whiny bitch who sucks at everything that requires some heart and effort.

[ICMTM]

Good points, but we missed free throws as well, and we were without our two best players. I loved how we played and were able to make the plays down the stretch.

How bout Donte tho? Man, I love his future. Going up against Lebron, Kobe and Carmelo in consecutive games he is learning alot. You can tell his length is bothersome to players, and he made another great defensive play at the end in stripping the ball away from Carmelo. Awesome.

I think we are learning. We looked more patient tonight, and I didn't notice any panic at the end.

It seems like Donte's length bothered him in some parts of the game but mello did have 30+ points.

I do see why Petrie was all over Nenê a couple years back. Even though he missed 2-3 easy dunks he was very active around the rim. Nenê shoots 66% from the line for his career. Unfortunately for the Nuggets he took almost half of their free throws and shot 64% from the line.

Anyhow good game.

[ICMTM]

AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
3 Games.
3 of the league's top teams come into Arco.
First 2 games go down to the wire, but the Kings fail to close out with the ball in Tyreke Evans' hands.
Tyreke sprains ankle and does not play next game against nuggets.
Remaining Kings band together and FINALLY get over the hump without so much as an overtime session.
Homestand against league's elite.
Record w/ Evans = 0-2.
Record w/o Evans = 1-0.
DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE KINGS ARE A BETTER TEAM WITHOUT TYREKE EVANS???
SHOULD WE TRADE HIM FOR SOME PROSPECTS AND/OR PICKS???
Just curious...

I'd trade Reke for a Superstar big man in a heart beat!

That being said though Denver played without their most important player in Chauncey Billups so it's not like Denver was a full strength. Denver isn't an elite team without Chauncey Billups.

One thing I will say is Tyreke Evans is WAY better than Ty Lawson. At times Ty Lawson looked like a hot mess!

[darkadun]

It seems like Donte's length bothered him in some parts of the game but mello did have 30+ points.
Anyhow good game.

True, but he shot 15-35. Thats alot of shots missed, I'll take that anyday.

Reg: Evans. I hope that was a joke. Evans not being there had nothing to do with us pulling the game out. For one the game didn't come down to a final possesion. If Evans was in this game, he'd likely have been taking those 4 free throws Sergio went 2-4 in. I don't think Evans misses two, he's been clutch shooting them at end of games.


On a side note with a hint of sarcasm, Carmelo should probably be traded since he didn't win the game for the Nuggets. Heck, he got striped by Donte at the end, and shot 15-35...and this is what, his 5th? 6th season? Denver is obviously better team without the ball in his hands

[XeOnagain]

I think Evans is our franchise player, but his plus/minus is at minus so he should work on his playmaking ability more in order to stop idiot critics to say that he's detrimental to the team.

[ICMTM]

The Kings as a team give up more points than they score so the +/- isn't that shocking. Besides that has been the knock on him since day one: Can he become a playmaker and create for others? I think he can. It just seems lately he's been trying to get his own shot going a little too much. It's up to him though but I think consistent post play would negate the iso game on the perimeter.

[villatrynity154]

yes wow i didn't see the game but great to have won....i'm glad tyreke didn't play and we won...i understand that he doesn't want to buy into all the hype, but no one man is above the media and the media likes to deep throat the hype into players so i don't blame evans for being young and naive....but winning with him sidelined could make him see his team can be trusted on and that he doesn't have to do EVERYTHING for this team...he should come down to earth honestly (after going agaisnt kobe and lebron and being unsuccesful and straining his ankle) and seeing the kings win without him should be enough for him to calm down and take it easier...i'm convincing myself against spencer...it really pisses me off that i can't see the games though......but donte is really the birght spot i see him as our PF of the future if he can get in the weight room a bit and be strong and quick enough to post up and spin to the basket a la dirk.....and we should really give JT more minutes at the center position cause spencer doesn't look to be cutting it and JT has shown he can excell as a center.....having spencer and brockman come off the bench should give us the depth we need in our frontcourt...if the team doesn't decide to trade spencer in light of drafting a big man this offseason...

tyreke/beno (bobby jackson jajaja)/sergio
kevin/garcia/beno/omri
omri/garcia/donte/tyreke
donte/brockman/JT/spencer (or draft pick)
JT/spencer (or draft pick)/brockman

we should have so many options at matchups we arguably can put 3+ guys at any of the 5 positions on the court.....that's great depth....and aside from arguably spencer, every player we will have for next season is a bunch of hard working passionate playing guys!!!! so its only natural to expect all of them to get much better!!! we are looking good for the future...GO KINGS!!!

[bjax24]

By this time when Martin was hurt people wanted his head on a silver platter, so trade him for a backup swingman.

[pillwenney]

It seems like Donte's length bothered him in some parts of the game but mello did have 30+ points.

I do see why Petrie was all over Nenê a couple years back. Even though he missed 2-3 easy dunks he was very active around the rim. Nenê shoots 66% from the line for his career. Unfortunately for the Nuggets he took almost half of their free throws and shot 64% from the line.

Anyhow good game.

On 35 shots. Make no mistake about it. Melo had a woefully inefficient night.

Anyway, I was at the game last night, and one thing I'll say--both teams very often looked like teams without their leaders. Denver looked flat out lost at times offensively, and really had some trouble getting a good shot at times without Chauncey directing things. Part of this, however, can be credited to our D.

But we were also very lucky that Noc had one of his good nights. Without that, we don't win this game. Having said that, we also got great production from Donte tonight. If Donte can produce on the road the way he does at home with any kind of consistency, we'll be in great shape.

Anyway, not the prettiest game over all. But a solid team effort.

[XeOnagain]

By this time when Martin was hurt people wanted his head on a silver platter, so trade him for a backup swingman.

i'll bet 50 bucks that after he returns he misses at least 5 more games during the season. That's how unreliable he is

[SacTownKings4Life]

I'd trade Reke for a Superstar big man in a heart beat!

That being said though Denver played without their most important player in Chauncey Billups so it's not like Denver was a full strength. Denver isn't an elite team without Chauncey Billups.

One thing I will say is Tyreke Evans is WAY better than Ty Lawson. At times Ty Lawson looked like a hot mess!

BUT WAIT! I thought Melo was the MVP candidate? Am I missing something here?
And that's STILL no excuse. They are a playoff team. We are not. They had their best player on the floor. We did not, x2. There's no logical reason why the Nuggets shouldn't have blown us off our own court. Give the Kings some credit for taking it to the best in the business, and taking another BIG step on the path of team development.

Also, if the WHOLE TEAM had been playing this way last season, I wonder if people would still be bashing Kmart the way they are now? He never had an Omri Casspi or a John Brockman, or a maturing Donte Green. This team simply did not play hard at all last year, and I continue to wonder why the blame is always placed at the feet of Kevin Martin, the only one actually DOING anything last year.