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Re: Out of Bounds No Call 

Post#21 » by KingInExile » Tue Jan 5, 2010 1:26 am

perezident wrote:^^^ So reading is not a requirement in RGM anymore?? Cuad did you high jack KIE user or KIE just has a hard on for me and didnt even bother TO READ a SINGLE line I posted!

Read first before you post bro. makes you look real "smart" when you just blab on with foolishness when I said that .....

I'm so tired of blaming the refs for our own mistakes and what not. YES Kobrina Bryant was out of bounds with her big feet, but IME choked big time!9


AND.....

We need to do ALL the things we gata do to win! And certainly looking for bail out calls from the ref's isn't one of them!


AND.......

We had the lead! WE BLEW it! WE just have to acquire a killer instincts when it comes to closing out games and finishing off teams


So you see sir, you need to "QFT" and SFR. Happy New Years :lol:


#1, in the realm of internet message boards, "QFT" is shorthand for "Quoted for Truth" (as NNN pointed out) or "Quite F'in True". If you need some help understanding something that was posted, just ask instead of going off on a belligerent rant.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=QFT

#2, you might want to think about toning down the personal attacks...especially when you're making an incorrect assumption. I think it was pretty clear that we both agreed on the topic.
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Re: Out of Bounds No Call 

Post#22 » by Smills91 » Tue Jan 5, 2010 3:42 am

KingInExile wrote:
perezident wrote:I'm so tired of blaming the refs for our own mistakes and what not. YES Kobrina Bryant was out of bounds with her big feet, but IME chocked big time! If he hits his free throws we are celebrating how we beat the Lakers -- its just that simple. That's what makes good teams be great. We need to do ALL the things we gata do to win! And certainly looking for bail out calls from the ref's isn't one of them!

I cant wait to see how things work out when Martin and Cisco are back. And lets not forget we are playing now without our 3 MAIN top guys now. And still was able to run with the Lakers. We had the lead! WE BLEW it! WE just have to acquire a killer instincts when it comes to closing out games and finishing off teams

QFT!

Regardless of whether the Kings did or did not get shafted by calls/non-calls, the fact still remains that the team needs to be held accountable for not taking care of business. The refs did not cause the team to blow a 20-pt lead. The refs did not make Ime (or JT) miss freethrows. The refs weren't responsible for guys blowing defensive assignments late. Yes there were questionable calls. But those questionable calls wouldn't have mattered if the Kings took care of business when they had their chances.


You sure about that? I witnessed from about mid-2nd quarter on, VERY favorable calls, many AND 1's going in favor of LA. I was watching the game with no sound, as not to wake the wife, and it changes the way you view a game. You just WATCH and it was apparent to me then, that they were attempting to shave down the lead from the Kings with some questionable calls to help give the Lakers a shot at making the game more competitive. It was EXACTLY as Tim Donaghy had explained it was done, nothing terrible drastic(minus the non-call out-of-bounds), but little subtle manipulations of a game to help the 'destined' team to win.

I think Stern's the Crook at this point, as much, if not more so than Donaghy(at least he's come clean).
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Re: Out of Bounds No Call 

Post#23 » by perezident » Tue Jan 5, 2010 6:55 am

Oh my bad guys... KIE I asked about the term "QFT" and some guy who was here from 05 said it mean, Quit F'in Talking. So I assumed that you didn't read what I said and posted your beliefs (which was the same as mine). My bad once again. When a man doesn't know, he just simply doesn't know.

I apologise for the comical rant.
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Re: Out of Bounds No Call 

Post#24 » by SacTownKings4Life » Tue Jan 5, 2010 10:08 am

cdt3 wrote:I agree he was out of bounds. I hope they can protest, it seems genuine enough. Especially after the last game LA would have lost if the foul on Pau pushing JT to the floor in the first OT for the unguarded tip in.


The view from the right side shows Kobe's right foot was just BARELY inbounds, however the views from the front and the left side shows that his left foot was positioned behind his right foot. His feet were not straight when he planted.

The NBA always lets the big guys push on the little guys. The only way to fight it is raising heck like Cuban. The Kings are talented enough now to start getting a little respect in the league.


That's the way it's ALWAYS been, really. And the problem is, complaining about it will only get us LESS respect around the league because laker supporters will simply accuse us of "whining just like we always do". They know they got a "gift", but in their arrogance, they always turn a blind eye for things that "happen" to go in their favor, and hide behind the fact that "we won and you lost! so you suck!". It just like after Game 6. The ENTIRE COUNTRY knows what went on in that game, but because "they won and we lost", that meant that we're just whiners. It would be the same thing today. We CAN'T say anything. That's probably why Westphal didn't say anything during the play. He wasn't going to win the argument IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, so why bother?

cdt3 wrote:That reminds me, why did Westphal put Sergio on Kobe? That was as bad as putting Bibby on him when he gave him the elbow to the jaw. Just on that fact alone we deserved an L for that game. Of course he pushed, bigger players will always push on smaller players. Calls are never made like that late, see MJ and his pushoff for title #5, or Gasol not getting called last game.

Either way the Kings need to use this game to drive them the rest of the year.


If you actually watched the footage, Sergio was NOT "on" Kobe. He was guarding Vujacic, who was inbounding the ball. Vujacic inbounded the ball to Gasol, and then Kobe came over and set the screen for Vujacic and then pushed off Sergio to get open. The REAL question to ask is, why was Kenny Thomas initially on Kobe? HE was guarding Kobe when the play began, but he never stepped up like he should have. Though perhaps because Vujacic would have been wide open under the basket if he had moved. I think that's why Gasol held the ball for so long. I think that was the set play. He was looking for an open man under the basket (Vujacic), but then Kobe "made himself" open for the best available shot.
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Re: Out of Bounds No Call 

Post#25 » by KingInExile » Tue Jan 5, 2010 5:32 pm

perezident wrote:Oh my bad guys... KIE I asked about the term "QFT" and some guy who was here from 05 said it mean, Quit F'in Talking. So I assumed that you didn't read what I said and posted your beliefs (which was the same as mine). My bad once again. When a man doesn't know, he just simply doesn't know.

I apologise for the comical rant.

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Re: Out of Bounds No Call 

Post#26 » by pillwenney » Tue Jan 5, 2010 9:17 pm

Kenny was on Kobe and Udoka was on Gasol all with the anticipation that they would switch onto each others guys. The switch ended up being Sergio on Kobe and Kenny on Vujacic. Kenny was right to follow Sasha cutting under the basket, but as soon as Gasol was making that pass to Kobe, he should have been bolting out there, as there's no way Kobe would have had time to pass it underneath to Sasha (nor would he have).

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