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Re: Udrih and #5 for Mo Williams 

Post#21 » by wiltchamberlain » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:37 am

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wiltchamberlain wrote:Well gee... I wouldn't think this was an accurate rumor, but someone on the 76ers board says it so it must be true.

Seriously though, if I ran things around here I would make claiming you're an insider a banable offense.
Nothing drives me more crazy on this site than someone claiming they have inside information, just to have a bunch of gullible folks latch on to them, and believe that what they say is spun gold.

I agree with you that this deal won't happen but if you ask any Sixer fan on that board they will tell you there are two definite insiders on that board. One is Tom Moore who is a Sixers beat writter (check out his thread) and the other guy is the reason Tom came to the board in the first place. His name is Sixerfan1976 (check out his thread) and has been proving without a dought over the last few years that he has inside info.(started with breaking the Iverson trade.....where and for who 2 weeks before anyone had it). Today a guy came to our board claiming he was a member of the Clevland press. At first no one believed him but he somehow proved it to the Mods so they didn't lock his post.


Well after some preliminary research on Sixerfan1976, I must say I'm a little underwhelmed. Apparently he's been saying for the last year that it's tremendously unlikely that Dalembert would be traded, and well that one didn't exactly bear out. Could you maybe post some links to some prognostications of his? Also maybe one to the guy who's claiming to be Tom Moore? For that matter I'd love to know more about our "insider" in Cleveland as well.
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Re: Udrih and #5 for Mo Williams 

Post#22 » by RoyalCourtJestr » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:58 am

I don't buy this for a second. Petrie is not freaking Isiah Thomas.
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Re: Udrih and #5 for Mo Williams 

Post#23 » by rpa » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:25 am

Mo WIlliams played next to the best player in basketball and still wasn't considered an all-star. Yet he's worth a top 5 pick? Please; the guy isn't even remotely close to being a top 10 PG (I could make an argument for him not being top 15 at this point).
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Re: Udrih and #5 for Mo Williams 

Post#24 » by 51X3RF4N » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:05 am

"I must say I'm a little underwhelmed. Apparently he's been saying for the last year that it's tremendously unlikely that Dalembert would be traded, and well that one didn't exactly bear out. "

To be fair, he said the reason Dalembert would likely not be traded is the trade kicker he had on his contract. Sac-to was the ONLY team willing to take this kicker and pay for it. That's why Dalembert was traded. The Sixers were shopping him for over a year and our guy knew that of course. He just didn't see it happening because up until last week, no team was willing to pay for the 15% trade kicker.

Also, he doesn't know EVERY conversation that happens in our GM's room. He just knows what his source tells him. And he can sometimes ask certain specific questions.

prezident, our mods have confirmed the identity of the poster on our board who claims to be Cleveland "press" member. He is indeed a member of Cleveland's press with credentials.
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Re: Udrih and #5 for Mo Williams 

Post#25 » by wiltchamberlain » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:43 am

51X3RF4N wrote:To be fair, he said the reason Dalembert would likely not be traded is the trade kicker he had on his contract. Sac-to was the ONLY team willing to take this kicker and pay for it. That's why Dalembert was traded. The Sixers were shopping him for over a year and our guy knew that of course. He just didn't see it happening because up until last week, no team was willing to pay for the 15% trade kicker.


Fair enough, although I might argue that being that this is probably the largest trade involving the 76ers in the last couple of years (please forgive me if I'm forgetting something, at any rate it certainly rates as one of the most trans formative trades in some time) and that if he had super duper inside info he might have caught a whisper about this thing going down.

51X3RF4N wrote:Also, he doesn't know EVERY conversation that happens in our GM's room. He just knows what his source tells him. And he can sometimes ask certain specific questions.


Yeah, but then again isn't this true about every journalist? I mean (assuming for a second he is who he says he is, not saying he isn't just unsure personally) journalists constantly make predictions based on what their sources tell them, and I don't know how often they bear out in Philly but in Sacramento's case it's like flinging a truckload of crap at a wall, some of it is bound to stick, most doesn't.

51X3RF4N wrote:prezident, our mods have confirmed the identity of the poster on our board who claims to be Cleveland "press" member. He is indeed a member of Cleveland's press with credentials.


This is somewhat of a cold comfort to me. I wasn't aware mods on realgm are apparently old school Pinkertons. Seriously though, I'd guess they know this from an email he sent, maybe from a work related email address? Well it doesn't much matter anyway you slice it because as I alluded to previously even if he were the guy he says he is I fail to see what makes him more special than any other person in the press who claims insider information. Jesus christ, no one pulls that card more than ESPN's Chad Ford who reminds me more and more like a sports related Sylvia Browne. IMHO "insiders" are essentially equivalent to the psychics they have on Montel, essentially they make a ton of educated guesses and a certain small percentage are bound to be true by chance.

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After doing more research I have found out that the rumor originated on.... wait for it

A Cavalier fan podcast. http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7751034
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Re: Udrih and #5 for Mo Williams 

Post#26 » by bmyers3317 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:03 pm

wiltchamberlain wrote:
bmyers3317 wrote:
wiltchamberlain wrote:Well gee... I wouldn't think this was an accurate rumor, but someone on the 76ers board says it so it must be true.

Seriously though, if I ran things around here I would make claiming you're an insider a banable offense.
Nothing drives me more crazy on this site than someone claiming they have inside information, just to have a bunch of gullible folks latch on to them, and believe that what they say is spun gold.

I agree with you that this deal won't happen but if you ask any Sixer fan on that board they will tell you there are two definite insiders on that board. One is Tom Moore who is a Sixers beat writter (check out his thread) and the other guy is the reason Tom came to the board in the first place. His name is Sixerfan1976 (check out his thread) and has been proving without a dought over the last few years that he has inside info.(started with breaking the Iverson trade.....where and for who 2 weeks before anyone had it). Today a guy came to our board claiming he was a member of the Clevland press. At first no one believed him but he somehow proved it to the Mods so they didn't lock his post.


I don't have the time or desire to do that. Plus, I don't think this trade is going to happen. But for anything involving the Sixers in the future (if you are interested) go search our board and look at Tom's thread or Sixerfan1976 and you will see for yourself. Only one team in the league was willing to take on Dalemberts trade kicker and that was the Kings (thats why Sixerfan1976 couldn't see it happening) and they couldn't agree on the players involved until now. He admited he didn't hear that one but he has been weeks....weeks ahead of anyone else on Sixer stuff. My opinion is he is somehow connected to Tony Delio because he is the only coach that has ben their during his inside information. As for Tom he links his colum eeveryday and releases quotes from interveiws the minute the interview is over.....it's Tom.
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Re: Udrih and #5 for Mo Williams 

Post#27 » by bmyers3317 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:11 pm

The cleveland guy has a radio podcast in clevland and proved it to the Mods. My opinion is he has inside information that Cleveland has talked to the Kings (just like everyother team in the league does this time of year) and was trying to figure out what they would be looking for. I think he made up the players involved himself and added the Iguadala stuff because Clevland tried to get him at the deadline this year.

Recap....The Kings and Cavs probably did talk but every team this time of year talks. He ran wild with the information.
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Re: Udrih and #5 for Mo Williams 

Post#28 » by ICMTM » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:52 pm

I will unlock this if it happens, then retire as a mod.
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