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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#41 » by dozencousins » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:40 am

I was at the NBA draft party at arco & after we picked COUSINS PETRIE was interviewed and was asked if he thought COUSINS would be a starter & the answer PETRIE gave was I am not the coach but we intend to work him in slowly wich to me implies that COUSINS will come off the bench !
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#42 » by ICMTM » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:45 am

I think with a guy with an attitude of Cousins (from my perception) you have to play him based on the minutes he's earned. If he's just that much better than Dally then yeah give him the minutes!
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#43 » by villatrynity154 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:19 am

i don't think cousins and dalembert on the court together work....same reason why elton brand and dalembert didn't work....dalembert was always lost and often took brand's spacing on the court....same thing will happen with cousins....and cousins is bigger and slower (probably) than brand, so they'll knock heads more than once trust me cause of daly's confusions...

petrie doesn't expect cousins to start, that doesn't mean he won't...besides, PW's the coach, not petrie if PW thinks the best line up is with cousins instead of dalembert cousins is gonna start!
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#44 » by RIPskaterdude » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:20 am

The best thing about Cousins is, he'll look great next to Landry or JT.
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#45 » by RekeHavoc » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:24 am

It depends on how ready he is when he comes into TC. But he definitely has the talent to start.
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#46 » by City of Trees » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:28 am

SacKingZZZ wrote:
king125 wrote:Cousins should play the 4. He said so himself in his NJ workout vid he prefers the 4 spot.

Dalembert/Thompson
Cousins/Landry
Greene/Casspi
Evans/Garcia
Udrih/? hopefully they sign Jerome Randle



Depends on how well the shooting touch he displayed in the workout transfers to the court. He could shoot in high school too, nba range actually, but remains to be seen. Cousins/Daly or Cousins/Whiteside might work OK considering Whiteside and Daly are above average athletes for their positions. I still think Landry has that starting PF spot on lockdown though, Westphal really likes him.

If it were me, Thompson would be the odd man out. The one thing he brings is rebounding and energy but we have more than we can handle with Daly and Cousins already.


after this draft Dally is not gonna re sign here.. he see's himself as the man.. why have thompson who imo will reach his potential in 2-3 yrs odd man out?? thats not smart.. these guys have great chemistry and thompson is everything you want of a big coming off the bench... i say trade dally he has value since he is expiring
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#47 » by City of Trees » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:30 am

but with that being said id rather just let them play it out and see how this team works
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#48 » by dub010 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:15 am

I know that the Kings have been after Sam D. for a while, but with the events of the draft I would like to see his expiring traded for a point guard. Someone that can compliment Reke and Cousins. I think we need to throw all of our chips into rebuilding around these guys. As much as I like Brockman, I also wouldnt doubt that he is on his way out.
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#49 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:33 am

Evans Is King wrote:[
after this draft Dally is not gonna re sign here.. he see's himself as the man.. why have thompson who imo will reach his potential in 2-3 yrs odd man out?? thats not smart.. these guys have great chemistry and thompson is everything you want of a big coming off the bench... i say trade dally he has value since he is expiring



Thompsons already going to be 25 next season, I don't know how much farther up he has to go. He's a good solid player but at this point his best asset is his rebounding and tonight we may have just picked up the board muncher of all board munchers.

We have too many guys needing time at this point. Somebody out of Cousins, Thompson, Landry, or Dalembert is going to be pissed. I'd rather it not be Cousins. I think Dalembert brings a much more needed skillset with his shotblocking and he's a great rebounder as well. Whiteside is a project so he has time to develop but I would assume and hope he eventually takes up that role of big off the bench or maybe even a starter at the 4 (Westphal apparently sees him here) in our very own twin towers lineup down the line.
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#50 » by ICMTM » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:34 pm

Dalembert is a contract expiring. That's it. If he gives us something on the court EVEN BETTER. Don't be surprised if he's gone before Christmas. I don't see a logjam immediately (if at all). This is what I do see:

*When Cousins is ready for minutes Dally's role is extremely reduced!
*Whiteside may spend time in the D-League. He's not an NBA 5. I can see him somewhere between Stromile Swift and Dirk Nowitzki.
*Dally/Thompson/Landry will be the rotation with Cousins developing at his speed.
*Whoever plays better defense between Landry and Thompson will get more minutes.
*Thompson's role between playing the 4 and 5 looks to stay the same.

*One thing about Landry is that with his increased minutes his production stayed the same. I still like him as the 6th man on this team.

Of all the bigs we have Dalembert seems like he's the worst fit. I'll give Whiteside a pass for the moment because he's not ready (and I think that's why he slid).
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#51 » by dub010 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:32 pm

Yeah it would be a shock if there wasnt some kind of trade for Dalembert's expiring contract, before the deadline.
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#52 » by longfellow44 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:22 pm

The way I see it Our big man rotation will eventually have 1 too many guys. That person is likely to be either Dalembert, Thompson, or Landry.

Whiteside is too far away from major meaningful production so he is essentially a non factor for now. and likely slots in at PF.
Cousins is our likely starting center after he gets acclimated.
Brockman is a 12th or 13th man type and shouldn't be a major factor when deciding the main rotation.

For what it's worth I don't see us making a move until atleast december but I expect one of dalembert, landry or thompson to not be on the team long term.


I think Dalembert wants to be a king and would accept a bench role if he were to get solid minutes. Thompson would be great starting or coming off the bench and could play either PF or C making him more valuable in certain situations, he's also got a nice diverse skill set making him a good fit with just about anyone. Landry duplicates cousins skill set and is a bit short for the PF spot, but he is hyper efficient and a winner.

I'm fine with moving any of the 3 guys mentioned but I think we let them fight it out 1st and then look to move one of them for a major Upgrade at PG.
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#53 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:05 am

ICMTM wrote:Dalembert is a contract expiring. That's it. If he gives us something on the court EVEN BETTER. Don't be surprised if he's gone before Christmas. I don't see a logjam immediately (if at all). This is what I do see:

*When Cousins is ready for minutes Dally's role is extremely reduced!
*Whiteside may spend time in the D-League. He's not an NBA 5. I can see him somewhere between Stromile Swift and Dirk Nowitzki.
*Dally/Thompson/Landry will be the rotation with Cousins developing at his speed.
*Whoever plays better defense between Landry and Thompson will get more minutes.
*Thompson's role between playing the 4 and 5 looks to stay the same.

*One thing about Landry is that with his increased minutes his production stayed the same. I still like him as the 6th man on this team.

Of all the bigs we have Dalembert seems like he's the worst fit. I'll give Whiteside a pass for the moment because he's not ready (and I think that's why he slid).



Hahaha, that's like saying he lives somewhere between Sacramento and the moon.
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#54 » by ICMTM » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:27 am

SacKingZZZ wrote:
ICMTM wrote:Dalembert is a contract expiring. That's it. If he gives us something on the court EVEN BETTER. Don't be surprised if he's gone before Christmas. I don't see a logjam immediately (if at all). This is what I do see:

*When Cousins is ready for minutes Dally's role is extremely reduced!
*Whiteside may spend time in the D-League. He's not an NBA 5. I can see him somewhere between Stromile Swift and Dirk Nowitzki.
*Dally/Thompson/Landry will be the rotation with Cousins developing at his speed.
*Whoever plays better defense between Landry and Thompson will get more minutes.
*Thompson's role between playing the 4 and 5 looks to stay the same.

*One thing about Landry is that with his increased minutes his production stayed the same. I still like him as the 6th man on this team.

Of all the bigs we have Dalembert seems like he's the worst fit. I'll give Whiteside a pass for the moment because he's not ready (and I think that's why he slid).



Hahaha, that's like saying he lives somewhere between Sacramento and the moon.

That's about how I meant it!
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#55 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:56 am

Hey, a 7 foot Stromile Swift? What the hey, I'll take it. :wink:
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#56 » by villatrynity154 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:07 am

it wouldn't be out of the question that the kings wanted dalembert so much because of what his contract brings rather than his skill set....i can't imagine a GM like petrie to be THAT interested in such a low IQ player...maybe if the draft didn't go the way we wanted, then his skill set was a plus, but the ball landed on our side of the court, so thankfully right now we only need dalembert to be exactly what he is....an expiring contract that's also a veteran....and because he is a veteran he'll get his chance to show his stuff....not to compete for a position, but to bring up his stock to trade him mid season. those are my 2 cents. i predict also JT will break out this season; if cousins performs ROY style and another strong season for tyreke, JT should have enough court space and less attention from the defenses. i expect him to have a great season!
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#57 » by Canomad » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:19 am

start him asap. you guys are rebuilding speed up the process get cousins court time i could see him gettin 28 mins this year and sammy d getting 20. i would start jt next to cousins and brind landry off the bench for scoring. imo you guys need to find out a package that would interest the hornets enough to get collison.
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#58 » by pillwenney » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:45 am

Canomad wrote:start him asap. you guys are rebuilding speed up the process get cousins court time i could see him gettin 28 mins this year and sammy d getting 20. i would start jt next to cousins and brind landry off the bench for scoring. imo you guys need to find out a package that would interest the hornets enough to get collison.


I actually agree with all of this.

My conflict right now is about what to do for the future. Dalembert obviously won't be the long term solution, which leaves Cousins/Whiteside/Thompson/Landry/Brockman--not enough minutes to go around assuming all involved turn out to be players in this league. This is probably the kind of thing where we can cross the bridge when we come to it, but I still have to wonder what we're going to do there.

The central conflict for me comes in the following: 1) JT is really a great fit starting next to Cousins, 2) Landry is an awesome 3rd option to have off the bench as a supersub and should be very valuable in this way, 3) Whiteside, if he pans out, will be incredibly valuable as a defensive anchor that isn't at all inept offensively, and 4) We don't have the PT for the 3 of them and Cousins (who I'm assuming we're holding onto for dear life). Assuming Whiteside pans out, I think his presence will be the most valuable, which would leave it to Landry and JT. I'd lean towards moving JT. It also depends largely on how well Whiteside can play with Cousins.
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#59 » by SacKingZZZ » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:10 am

Go big or go home. DMC at the 4, Daly at the 5.
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Re: Does Cousins start immediately? 

Post#60 » by SadKingsFan » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:43 am

I think summer league/training camp and Preseason will get this sorted out to some degree. Who knows what will happen? We still have a lot of offseason left to go, and im pretty sure there will be another move made, just not sure what in the world it will be. Too many big men? Yup, and that is a GREAT problem to have considering what we have had to watch the last 3 or 4 years.

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