Hassan Whiteside's Playing Time

[Wolfay]

If we're talking about Brockman, he was one of the primary reasons why we won some games, and why we were competitive in others. He has a definite impact when he's on the floor.

[KF10]

Brockman has the best offensive rebounding rate in the L, despite being undersized. He gobbles rebounds in his playing time.

Like others said, he brings in IMPACT. Brockman was one of the main reasons why the Kings rallied back from a 35-point deficit against the Bulls in December. There was several games that Brockman was the game changer once he stepped on the floor.

Signing Brockman is a priority in my eyes.

[twoolfork1]

Well I can tell you one right now, he's more polished and knows the game better than any of the others. He sets solid screens, knows where to be on defense, and knows where to be on the offensive boards.

And he's not just a "good" rebounder, per minute he's one of the best, if not the best, in the league. At least on the offensive glass. He's really the ultimate type of offensive rebounder because the majority he gets are literally extra possessions. He isn't one of those types that just rebounds their own misses over and over. He literally retrieves the ball, a rare, rare skill in the NBA when doing it at that level.

That mid-range shot started looking pretty good by the end of the season if I recall.

I agree that he is more polished than a lot of our bigs right now. However, knowing where to be on defense and being able to effectively defend your position night in and night are two completely different things. I remember seeing him struggle to guard taller bigs who go up right over him. That wont happen to Whiteside.

Also, just because he averaged 4 rebounds in 12 minutes it does not make him "one of the best" in the league. You have to be joking. I know he is a fan favorite but you are blowing his talent way out of proportion by saying he has "a rare, rare skill" and is "one of the best, if not the best" in anything. He has way more to prove.

I agree he may outplay Whiteside this year forcing Hassan into the D-League but Whiteside's upside is waaaaaaaay more than that of Brockman and should more attention and focus.

[twoolfork1]

If we're talking about Brockman, he was one of the primary reasons why we won some games, and why we were competitive in others. He has a definite impact when he's on the floor.

Really? What games were these? I remeber him bringing energy and rebounding off the bench a lot but ionno about saying he was the "primary reason" we won any games last year. I know winning is about more than scoring but low post scoring is the reason the Kings lost so many games last year. Brockman does very little to help us in this area.

Also, with our new lineup of bigs I dont see rebounding as neceassarily being our weakness anymore. We replaced soft guys with rebounding issues like Hawes and Nocioini with more aggressive rebounders like Dalmebert, Cousins and Landry. We need our bigs to focus on defending their postion and provide some low post scoring that has been absesnt in Sacramento since Webber and Divac's days

[twoolfork1]

Brockman has the best offensive rebounding rate in the L, despite being undersized. He gobbles rebounds in his playing time.

Like others said, he brings in IMPACT. Brockman was one of the main reasons why the Kings rallied back from a 35-point deficit against the Bulls in December. There was several games that Brockman was the game changer once he stepped on the floor.

Signing Brockman is a priority in my eyes.

I remember this game very well. Brockman had 0 points, 6 rebounds and 1 assist (http://www.nba.com/games/20091221/SACCH ... GIboxscore). I remeber Tyreke, Beno and even Sergio as the reasons we came back. I know its not all about scoring but we cant have guys on our lineup that contribute nothing on the offensive end.

[10B10]

Yeah I wouldn't expect much playing time for Whiteside this year unless he really, really impresses in summer league. In fact, its probably much more beneficial for him to spend this year in the D-League where he can play more consistently.

[SacKingZZZ]

I agree that he is more polished than a lot of our bigs right now. However, knowing where to be on defense and being able to effectively defend your position night in and night are two completely different things. I remember seeing him struggle to guard taller bigs who go up right over him. That wont happen to Whiteside.

Also, just because he averaged 4 rebounds in 12 minutes it does not make him "one of the best" in the league. You have to be joking. I know he is a fan favorite but you are blowing his talent way out of proportion by saying he has "a rare, rare skill" and is "one of the best, if not the best" in anything. He has way more to prove.

I agree he may outplay Whiteside this year forcing Hassan into the D-League but Whiteside's upside is waaaaaaaay more than that of Brockman and should more attention and focus.

Yeah but he battled guys like Howard in the post tooth and nail and made him work for everything he got. Whiteside while longer, will get pushed around in the post.

Read what I wrote again, per minute he IS one of the best offensive rebounders and the stats are undeniable. All you can do is look at what he does with his time and if what he does is a positive, which it is, then he is a positive asset in that area. The facts are facts, plain and simple. He happens to be one of those types of players that can do a whole lot with very little time so if you are going to have one of those guys, might as well be a good one.

And I'm most certainly not denying that Whitesides potential is way beyond Brockmans, it is. There's a reason he was once projected to go as high as 5 and Brockman undrafted, but he has a lot of work to do and we are talking about apples and oranges here. It's not one or the other, it's depth, and the right kind of depth.

[SacKingZZZ]

I remember this game very well. Brockman had 0 points, 6 rebounds and 1 assist (http://www.nba.com/games/20091221/SACCH ... GIboxscore). I remeber Tyreke, Beno and even Sergio as the reasons we came back. I know its not all about scoring but we cant have guys on our lineup that contribute nothing on the offensive end.

I think you really need to watch the tape again, the story isn't in the stats. The team was dead in the water until Brockman came in and started throwing his body around. Very noticeable change in attitude after that. Energy doesn't show up in the box score but if it did Brocks PER would be off the charts.

[KF10]

I remember this game very well. Brockman had 0 points, 6 rebounds and 1 assist (http://www.nba.com/games/20091221/SACCH ... GIboxscore). I remeber Tyreke, Beno and even Sergio as the reasons we came back. I know its not all about scoring but we cant have guys on our lineup that contribute nothing on the offensive end.

Like SKZZZ said, you have to re-watch the tape.

Brockman was very important for the Kings to comeback from 35-points in the mid-3rd quarter. He literally gave us extra offensive opportunities and we capitalized on them.

And not to mention a guy like Udoka (who was on fire from 3) played a similar role as Brockman.

Proven role players in Udoka and Brockman are important to any team despite their "offensive deficiencies".

[SacTownKings4Life]

I don't know. I've been looking at some highlight packages on youtube, and if he can block some shots for us like he's done in college, I don't see why you WOULDN'T give him a few minutes here and there. That and rebounding are all we really need from him at the moment, since Cousins and Landry should be doing the bulk of the scoring.

[twoolfork1]

So who saw that first summer league game? I don't want to get to far ahead of myself but I think its safe to say although Whiteside is raw on offense and needs much improvement his post defense is very solid. This guy led the nation in blocks in college and I think his defense is close to NBA ready. It was only 1 summer league game tho so im trying not to get too excited

[twoolfork1]

PS Jon Brockman will never have 5 blocks in a game. Summer League, Preseason or Regular season

[SacTown Kings]

^^ Who cares how many blocks he gets he is still the brockness monster lol.

[d0rkus916]

haven't watched any of the SL games, but can his role be somewhat of what we had for Keon Clark back in the days? bench player who comes in to help defense/block shots? he seems lanky like him?

[KF10]

haven't watched any of the SL games, but can his role be somewhat of what we had for Keon Clark back in the days? bench player who comes in to help defense/block shots? he seems lanky like him?

Not explosive like Keon but I do see the similarities in terms of role.

But IMO Whiteside has significantly more potential of impacting the game defensively than Keon ever did. Whiteside is already more "lankier" and taller than Keon.

[wiltchamberlain]

I'd say the Keon comparison is fairly accurate. He's not there yet, being young and all but there is real potential. I'd also disagree with KF10 on one small thing, I'd say Hassan is more "explosive" than Keon right now, some of those blocks, the height he's able to reach, and the suddenness with which he reaches it is just incredible. He also doesn't have the substance abuse problems Keon did which is a plus.