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Re: Kings 2010-2011 Starting Lineup 

Post#21 » by Wolfay » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:33 pm

mitchweber wrote:A move needs to be made for sure, but after seeing Cousins live now, it has to be him starting. This isn't some raw kid that isn't ready to contribute. He is flat out a better basketball player than Samuel Dalembert right now.


I completely agree. I don't see any compelling reason not to. Cousins has demonstrated incredible skill that is right up there with our best days with Webber and Divac, and I think the sooner Evans and Cousins get accustomed to each other, the better. Dalembert might have an edge on defense, but I think Cousins can hold his own. Cousins might make some mistakes too due to his inexperience, but Dalembert isn't really any better with his low basketball IQ.
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Re: Kings 2010-2011 Starting Lineup 

Post#22 » by RookieWall » Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:19 am

Bac2Basics wrote:To Start the Season:

1 - Udrih
2 - Evans
3 - Casspi
4 - Landry
5 - Dalembert

Late into the season (assuming no major trades or injuries)

1 - Udrih
2 - Evans
3 - Casspi
4 - Thompson
5 - Cousins


Cousins likely won't start (at the beginning of season), but he has certainly played great in summer league and shown he has what it takes. Very surprised that he isn't playing well right now against the Bulls in his last summer league game. Check out website in signature to see an interview the NBA did with Cousins in Vegas. Described himself as a bigger monster than both King King and Jaws.
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Re: Kings 2010-2011 Starting Lineup 

Post#23 » by SacKingZZZ » Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:34 am

troydestroy wrote:interesting. i've been wondering about the idea of moving Landry. And while he is the more proven player, I wouldn't mind seeing him traded for a solid 1 or 2. The chance of this happening may just depend on JT and his play in camp. If he shows more improvement, then maybe he's ready for starting 4 spot. That may be asking a lot though


I have a feeling that Landry and Cousins are going to play really well together. While there is major potential, just watch, our team is going to look like caca on D with JT and Cousins. Both don't really understand the fundamentals of defense quite yet. Both have major potential in that area though (moreso JT since he's so mobile).
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Re: Kings 2010-2011 Starting Lineup 

Post#24 » by AnDrOiDKing4 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:50 am

Evans/?
Beno/Garcia
Greene/Casspi
Landry/Jt/Brockman
Dalembert/Cousins/Whiteside.


Cousins defense is too weak to anchor our middle just yet.
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Re: Kings 2010-2011 Starting Lineup 

Post#25 » by pillwenney » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:57 am

I'm not saying Cousins would get starters minutes right away. He and Dalembert would basically split up the time and possibly play a little bit together. But he does deserve to start, and he is better than Dalembert right now.

It's hard to say what Dalembert would put up in summer league because it's just a different animal. Artest played in SL, and IIRC, he didn't completely tear things up. Cousins has been awesome, but he has also been inhibited by summer league-caliber guards a little. It's just not that comparable. Dalembert certainly wouldn't dominate offensively.

Cousins will still have to get in better shape, and will get into foul trouble, so he still won't be playing starters minutes, but he deserves the spot, and the sooner he gets started playing with Tyreke, the better.
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Re: Kings 2010-2011 Starting Lineup 

Post#26 » by Left Switch » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:13 am

mitchweber wrote:I'm not saying Cousins would get starters minutes right away. He and Dalembert would basically split up the time and possibly play a little bit together. But he does deserve to start, and he is better than Dalembert right now.

It's hard to say what Dalembert would put up in summer league because it's just a different animal. Artest played in SL, and IIRC, he didn't completely tear things up. Cousins has been awesome, but he has also been inhibited by summer league-caliber guards a little. It's just not that comparable. Dalembert certainly wouldn't dominate offensively.

Cousins will still have to get in better shape, and will get into foul trouble, so he still won't be playing starters minutes, but he deserves the spot, and the sooner he gets started playing with Tyreke, the better.


I agree with this, he should play with Tyreke, it will make things easier for both of them.
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Re: Kings 2010-2011 Starting Lineup 

Post#27 » by twoolfork1 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:39 am

I dont like beno starting and making Evans the 2. Doing that gives away any size advantage that we might have at the guards. However, beno probably is our best guard after Tyreke. Does any1 think greene and cassipi could start together?

Evans/ Udrih/ Sloan
Greene/ Garcia/ Evans
Cassipi/ Garcia/ Greene
Landry/ Thompson/ Whiteside
Cousins/ Dalembert/ Whiteside
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Re: Kings 2010-2011 Starting Lineup 

Post#28 » by kobyz » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:27 am

Cousins need to start and Thompson is the best completion to him at the four, Landry is better of the bench so you can combine him with Dalembert for defense and rebounding and then you have 2 pairs of bigs.
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Re: Kings 2010-2011 Starting Lineup 

Post#29 » by Cruel_Ruin » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:06 pm

PG: Tyreke should start. He's gotten enough exposure at the PG position to understand the position, and puts him at the greatest point of mismatch against tiny and scrawny little PGs. Beno backs him up off the bench, we need him to be the floor general when Tyreke isn't on the floor.

SG: Garcia should start, both to give Tyreke a great mismatch at PG and to maintain balance in the rotation. Good defender, good shooter, passable ballhandling skills, ability to play off the ball is perfect. I think with Tyreke/Beno/Garcia we have the PG/SG spots covered, since Tyreke can play both positions.

SF: Greene should start because I think he's been more impressive in Summer League and fits chemistry-wise better in the starting 5 that includes Tyreke and Cousins. His defense should be top notch at this position. Casspi comes off the bench as a single-minded gunner, this role probably fits him best.

PF: Cousins. He has shown me enough to believe he can be like Pau Gasol at this position with his length and quick feet. Probably will be the second option on offense after Tyreke. Obviously when we go up against the Amares and the Boozers of the NBA he's going to need help, but we would have to help on them no matter who is here. Landry off the bench is ideal for him, he has a history of murdering opposing benches as a sparkplug.

C: Dalembert. Helps cover for Cousins defensive problems by erasing mistakes, plus fits in well with both Cousins and Tyreke on offense by being a finisher at the rim. Also can help show Cousins the ropes in terms of being a defensive anchor for a squad so that when Whiteside emerges Cousins can take his natural C position and be the main anchor with Whiteside being the athletic weakside help. For the coming season JT should back up this position, he's got size and energy to be an ideal bench big.

So in conclusion:

Tyreke/Beno
Garcia/Beno
Greene/Casspi
Cousins/Landry
Dalembert/JT

Our starters will have a size advantage every night (6'5, 6'7, 6'10, 6'11, 7') and there really are no weak links defensively in that lineup (except maybe Cousins guarding quicker PFs). Offense runs through Tyreke and Cousins, with Garcia spotting up for threes and cutting, Donte taking advantage of holes in the defense off the dribble, and Dalembert always as an alley-oop lob threat. Not to mention that I love our bench, imagine the firepower that Beno/Landry/Casspi/JT rain down on opposing benches.

Anyone else excited for next year? :D
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Re: Kings 2010-2011 Starting Lineup 

Post#30 » by cdt3 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:23 pm

JT is a guy who put up a 16/10/1 in REAL NBA games last year until the NBA figured out the Kings had Tyreke and JT and nothing else mature enough to win. And shot 50% from the field in 3 out of 5 months even though he was allegedgly a terrible season even though JT shot the same % as Chris Bosh 2 years ago. Just for the record Spencer Hawes shot better % than Cousins and blocked more shots and was and shot 40% while Cousins shot 33%. Not to mention JT in summer was ultra efficient in summer league putting up identical stats to Cousins in 5 less shots a game. Why do people continue to sleep on JT?

Was KG ever an enegry guy? Hell no they kept his butt on the court every minute of the game because he used to do so much in the paint on both sides of the court. JT is a guy that does a lot of right stuff. JT does nothing fancy he just does everything well. Dalembert is a defensive guy, Hawes was a offensive guy, Brockman a defensive guys but JT plays offense and defense equally well.
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Re: Kings 2010-2011 Starting Lineup 

Post#31 » by darkadun » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:49 pm

I agree with you about JT. He was absolute beast in the begining of last season, and he really improved his D towards the end. I don't see him starting over Landry tho. I actually like Landry coming off the bench as a superb 6th man, but I don't see it happening.

Back to JT, I wouldn't sleep on him either. This is his 3rd year, and I expect him to get better. Regarding Cousins, I don't see him starting honestly. Dalembert will get minutes, and Cousins will probably get about 20 minutes a game. I think he'll have a good rookie season, but I'm not sure we should expect a domination from the get go. Center is a hard position to play and learn.

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