Jon Brockman to the Bucks

[mobiuseinz]

seriously... 8 pages? For Brockman... who was fantastic for us in 2-3 minute stretches... but we got Landry and Thompson to fill that role, and Whiteside, Cousins and Dalembert to fill the C position.

and Kenny Thomas was a starting PF at one point and averaged a double-double... I don't think Brockman will ever be a starter.

Get a grip and stop crying over a 14th man.

Getting that 2nd rounder could be beneficial trading up (giving up our 2nd rounder + Milwaukee's for a late 1st one maybe).

besides, we should focus more on pressing matters... like getting another PG and a SG!

[KingInExile]

wow...i hope the other guy's contract was the minimum cause we just traded an undersized pf for another one

No, we traded an undersized PF who was a free agent for a 2nd round pick next year rather than watch him sign with the Bucks and get nothing for it.

[SacKingZZZ]

Is there any protection on the pick?

[KF10]

Brockman on the trade:

"I’m not just saying this, I really do love Sacramento. It’s going to be hard leaving."

I expect everyone at Arco will give Brockman a standing ovation.

[perezident]

First off i was calling you ignorant because you make it seem like im calling Jon the second coming of Jesus and thats not at all what im intending.

Hmmm where do I begin? I'll leave the whole ignorant thing alone because you are very jokey.

I just think its a stupid move to draft a a project center when we already had 4(5 with brockman) solid big men, and then we draft another one? When our clear need before the 33rd pick was a shooter/gaurd.

Say what?? The consensus on Brockman's level of talent, being compared to was Mark Madsen. Ever heard of him? (See Adam Morrison's contribution to the Lakers for the past two years, if there aren't any results for a Madsen youtube search). Why draft another? LOL this guy cant be serious. Whiteside is a 7'1 shot blocking rebounding machine! Brockman?....Kurt Rambis type Najera energy guy with a Chuck Hayes zeal.... Tell me something, WHO at #33 was available other than Hassan..freaking Donald SLOAN?? or another Douby? Singletary? Bobby Brown? Shakur? Smush Parker? Give me a break bro.

Then we give up a proven player for really nothing in the hopes that this risk/reward guy Hassan pans out. Its a stupid move...

Proven? How many games did Brockman play again? Or how about, how many DNP's did he log even down to end of the season? (Let the "PW is a moron rants begin")

Your trying to take my quotes out of context and are trying to make me look like a dummy when you dont even know what I mean.

I quote the way you present them. Go back to the orginal statement I made answering a poster about why these Brockman lovers are irate over the move. I said what I said, then I quoted you after you decided to chime in on my response. Which by anyone can give an account that my syn. was spot on

[dozencousins]

Just to be clear MOD or no MOD you are wrong !!!!!!!!

1st I have no man crush on anybody !
2nd BROCKMAN may be a journeyman but will have a far better career than K9
3rd you being a MOD does not make you have anymore NBA logic or knowledge than me i assure you .
4th Yes its emotional for me in this case more so because I dont think I know it's a stupid move !

In conclusion I am write you are wrong I am entitled to my opinion wich is right & your entitled to yours wich is wrong !

So you can try to bash my view all you want but it wont get you anywhere with me !

This board is for all to express their views & opinions no one has to agree with you just because your a MOD I agree with you sometimes but this time your way off base !

I don't think I've asked anyone to agree with me on anything. If I've proven one thing over the years it's that I like to argue. Can I get a witness? I just think it's funny you keep bringing up I'm a mod. If you think I'm wrong put it in terms that don't make you sound like a 6 year old crying at the check out stand because your mom wouldn't buy you a snickers.

In any event don't go posting "don't sleep on Brockman! He can drop 30/10 on you!" It may end up as someone's signature.

It is you acting like a baby If you want I can go to a walmart & buy you a pacifier + maybe get you a bottle as well !
lmao......


anyways your not going to get anywhere with me on this so for you to try you will only fail.

I like to argue as well so no skin off my back . Keep flapping your gums if you wish & it's really up to you as to if you want to continue this .

By the way i point out your a MOD because though i know you and I are a couple of the handful of older guys here the point is a MOD you would think as being a MOD someone who has control of this board you would have more class than what you have shown as someone who has some authority on this site .

examples of this :

if you have a boss younger or older than you its their job to be proffessional at all times no matter what !
if your a coach in sports again you coach / manage that team be being a constant pro a leader & know how to get the most & best from your team .
You have the right to do & say what you want as anyone else here does but honestly you are simply acting like a classless person . I dont care that you disagree with me , I dont care if you like me , I dont care to be your friend , I dont care if you respect me or not . I will not tell you how to MOD but the one thing i will simply let you know is that your words could show more class than what you have been , My words may not be 100% perfect or always polite but i am not a mod & i am not the leader of this board you are 1 of 2 & as that you should conduct yourself better .

1 final thought your phrase can i get a witness statement as you mentioned above is really pathetic if you need to try to involve others to get on your side unlike you i dont need to try those tactings .

In closing ICMTM anytime you want to e-mail me if you feel it's called for etc. be my guess I am sure you have it on file as a MOD i am sure you have access on the site.

What is really sad is i made a couple of statements origionally doing nothing more than saying my piece a couple others disagreed & laid into me a bit " NO BIG DEAL " I responded but you are the one coming after me in your origion couple of posts acting the fool & child like and i amnot the one who ever initiated anything with you .

Maybe you will show class here & just read & not respond or if you do e-mail me I dont care
or just respond here no big deal & just try to make yourself out to be smart / a big man or that your witty or clever as your not ! Do as you wish !

[ICMTM]

To bdking:

bdking I'm sooo terribly sorry I've hurt your feelings.

The proper way to handle mod misconduct is to complain to a global moderator. I'm not going to email you. On this board there is a standard that we attack ideas and not people...yeah I attacked your argument, and your argument style. I have nothing but kind things to say about you though If you're going to use an emotional appeal for a bench player that is destined to be a reserve as an argument it's going to get laughed at.

In the words of Curtis Blow...these are the breaks!

Sorry, but as a mod I'm still entitled to laugh at your ideas. If a global seems to think differently tell them to take it out of my big fat mod paycheck and slap me with a retired mod status. It wouldn't mess up my day not one bit. Now if you sincerely have a deep rooted problem with me go see a global. I have no issue with you and don't feel the need to email you.

In the future don't hijack a thread though. Send someone a PM. I hear they work now.

[dozencousins]

To bdking:

bdking I'm sooo terribly sorry I've hurt your feelings.

The proper way to handle mod misconduct is to complain to a global moderator. I'm not going to email you. On this board there is a standard that we attack ideas and not people...yeah I attacked your argument, and your argument style. I have nothing but kind things to say about you though If you're going to use an emotional appeal for a bench player that is destined to be a reserve as an argument it's going to get laughed at.

In the words of Curtis Blow...these are the breaks!

Sorry, but as a mod I'm still entitled to laugh at your ideas. If a global seems to think differently tell them to take it out of my big fat mod paycheck and slap me with a retired mod status. It wouldn't mess up my day not one bit. Now if you sincerely have a deep rooted problem with me go see a global. I have no issue with you and don't feel the need to email you.



In the future don't hijack a thread though. Send someone a PM. I hear they work now.

Hijack a thread I dont even know what that is so no need for you to make accusations !

Boo Hoo Hoo to you as well Your sarcasism is yet another pathetic attempt of you showing your true colors.

I dont need to go running to a global MOD not my style or needed .

But no wait your a great MOD the best really , sincerely , NOT !

P.S. You never hurt my feelings or ever could . You just simply showed what a sorry excuse you are .
& what is up with the green letters thats stupid !

[perezident]

LMFAO! EPIC!^^^

bdkging and ICMTM take it to the email

[Wolfay]

All I can say is LOL at this thread. This is the kind of ish you see on an ESPN board.

[RIPskaterdude]

LMFAO! EPIC!^^^

bdkging and ICMTM take it to the email

[down_el_road]

First off i was calling you ignorant because you make it seem like im calling Jon the second coming of Jesus and thats not at all what im intending.

Hmmm where do I begin? I'll leave the whole ignorant thing alone because you are very jokey.

I just think its a stupid move to draft a a project center when we already had 4(5 with brockman) solid big men, and then we draft another one? When our clear need before the 33rd pick was a shooter/gaurd.

Say what?? The consensus on Brockman's level of talent, being compared to was Mark Madsen. Ever heard of him? (See Adam Morrison's contribution to the Lakers for the past two years, if there aren't any results for a Madsen youtube search). Why draft another? LOL this guy cant be serious. Whiteside is a 7'1 shot blocking rebounding machine! Brockman?....Kurt Rambis type Najera energy guy with a Chuck Hayes zeal.... Tell me something, WHO at #33 was available other than Hassan..freaking Donald SLOAN?? or another Douby? Singletary? Bobby Brown? Shakur? Smush Parker? Give me a break bro.

Then we give up a proven player for really nothing in the hopes that this risk/reward guy Hassan pans out. Its a stupid move...

Proven? How many games did Brockman play again? Or how about, how many DNP's did he log even down to end of the season? (Let the "PW is a moron rants begin")

Your trying to take my quotes out of context and are trying to make me look like a dummy when you dont even know what I mean.

I quote the way you present them. Go back to the orginal statement I made answering a poster about why these Brockman lovers are irate over the move. I said what I said, then I quoted you after you decided to chime in on my response. Which by anyone can give an account that my syn. was spot on

1) Mocking is never a solid tool when it comes to arguing, it just proves your ignorance even more.

2) Madsen was a stiff. Brockman may have been compared to him before he was drafted but once he played you could tell he was no stiff. Im not sure what Morrison has to do with anything about Brockman, loose argument there.

3) Whiteside may have been a shot blocking, rebounding "machine" in COLLEGE but so have a lot busted big men(Patrick O'bryant, Kwame Brown, Sheldon Williams just to name a few). And I don't know anyone who wanted want a player with the skills of Rambis, Najera, and Hayes all together, thats a star right there.

4) I can tell you one guy I was in LOVE with was Lance Stephenson, perfect back up guard who can play the 1 and the 2. I never suggested your assumptions(again, trying to make look like an idiot).

5) It doesn't matter how many games he didn't play it matters what he did in the games he did play. He's proven because you know exactly what your going to get from him. Toughness, girt, energy, the guy isnt expected to get double-doubles every time he steps on but he is expected to throw some elbows and help the team win(Doesn't the Chicago game mean anything to you?).

6) I called you Ignorant on that because you think that we think that Brock is best thing since slice bread when I have already explained my views on Brock. If you still cant see my views and treat them with respect, then it furthers my point that you are ignorant.

[wiltchamberlain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRGd0gD0 ... re=related

[City of Trees]

I just think its a stupid move to draft a a project center when we already had 4(5 with brockman) solid big men, and then we draft another one? When our clear need before the 33rd pick was a shooter/gaurd.

The past 2 years in the draft kings have went BPA and its worked out pretty well.. as a GM you cant be happy with the talent level on your the team winning 20 something games. if we draft a guy in the 2nd round and he is better than you, thats says it all right there....

[City of Trees]

3) Whiteside may have been a shot blocking, rebounding "machine" in COLLEGE but so have a lot busted big men(Patrick O'bryant, Kwame Brown, Sheldon Williams just to name a few). And I don't know anyone who wanted want a player with the skills of Rambis, Najera, and Hayes all together, thats a star right there.

really??

[KingInExile]

I just think its a stupid move to draft a a project center when we already had 4(5 with brockman) solid big men, and then we draft another one? When our clear need before the 33rd pick was a shooter/gaurd.

The past 2 years in the draft kings have went BPA and its worked out pretty well.. as a GM you cant be happy with the talent level on your the team winning 20 something games. if we draft a guy in the 2nd round and he is better than you, thats says it all right there....

To add to the BPA point...when you're drafting high in the 2nd round and there is a guy on the board who was projected as a LOTTERY PICK, that is a no-brainer choice. Look, the Kings were considering Whiteside for the 5th pick and may have taken him there if Cousins was off the board. So when dumb luck presents you with the opportunity to get both guys you wanted at #5 you don't think twice. Also, as Evans Is King suggested, teams swimming near the bottom of the league don't have the luxury of picking players based on need...BECAUSE YOU NEED EVERYTHING!

[ICMTM]

To bdking:

bdking I'm sooo terribly sorry I've hurt your feelings.

The proper way to handle mod misconduct is to complain to a global moderator. I'm not going to email you. On this board there is a standard that we attack ideas and not people...yeah I attacked your argument, and your argument style. I have nothing but kind things to say about you though If you're going to use an emotional appeal for a bench player that is destined to be a reserve as an argument it's going to get laughed at.

In the words of Curtis Blow...these are the breaks!

Sorry, but as a mod I'm still entitled to laugh at your ideas. If a global seems to think differently tell them to take it out of my big fat mod paycheck and slap me with a retired mod status. It wouldn't mess up my day not one bit. Now if you sincerely have a deep rooted problem with me go see a global. I have no issue with you and don't feel the need to email you.



In the future don't hijack a thread though. Send someone a PM. I hear they work now.

Hijack a thread I dont even know what that is so no need for you to make accusations !

Boo Hoo Hoo to you as well Your sarcasism is yet another pathetic attempt of you showing your true colors.

I dont need to go running to a global MOD not my style or needed .

But no wait your a great MOD the best really , sincerely , NOT !

P.S. You never hurt my feelings or ever could . You just simply showed what a sorry excuse you are .
& what is up with the green letters thats stupid !

1. Thread hijacking is where the thread becomes about you not liking me instead of you not liking my stance on John Brockman being a nice scrub off the bench. You've done that.

2. Don't complain about any forum mod as all it will do is get you warned. Now I'm not going to do this in this instance because I've clearly been egging you on. Going forward though your responses about me will either go to a global or we'll get you warned. No sarcasm about that.

3. Again attack the argument not the person. You're really on warning status, but since I really do feel like I struck a nerve with your affection for the Brock we'll let it slide. You do have to understand though I don't care and this isn't personal to me at all. I'm actually enjoying watching you fall all over yourself in defense of the Brock. It's just funny to me (and others) but you're pissed.

4. In closing talking about another poster in a thread completely outside of the thread topic is called thread hijacking. Calling another poster "sorry" or any remarks to the person isn't what we do here. I can flame your ideas until the point has been proven and I've done that. You however have been at me. It will stop. Do not reply to me in any form (PM, email, or in this thread) about this matter. We're done! It will just get you warned.

Now if anyone would like to continue talking about the Brock's departure to the Bucks you are welcome to do so. If you want to talk about me, other people, Smills, etc I'm shutting all that down.

[ICMTM]

What round in your fantasy draft are you going to pick John Brockman this year? It's THE BROCK!

I've never seen so many people get bent out of shape about a mid 2nd round pick that got 10 minutes of PT a game. One who is undersized and has average NBA athleticism. One who will NEVER be an impact player nor an essential role player.

Yes he was a likable guy. He was a fan favorite. However we're talking about winning and acquiring talent. John Brockman isn't going to be the piece to push any franchise to their next level. If you feel he wasn't expendable and was an integral part of our future lets just agree to disagree.

Here's the true test though. This weekend if you're out on the town your ice breaker should be John Brockman signed with the Bucks. That doesn't even sound right now does it?

[dozencousins]

To bdking:

bdking I'm sooo terribly sorry I've hurt your feelings.

The proper way to handle mod misconduct is to complain to a global moderator. I'm not going to email you. On this board there is a standard that we attack ideas and not people...yeah I attacked your argument, and your argument style. I have nothing but kind things to say about you though If you're going to use an emotional appeal for a bench player that is destined to be a reserve as an argument it's going to get laughed at.

In the words of Curtis Blow...these are the breaks!

Sorry, but as a mod I'm still entitled to laugh at your ideas. If a global seems to think differently tell them to take it out of my big fat mod paycheck and slap me with a retired mod status. It wouldn't mess up my day not one bit. Now if you sincerely have a deep rooted problem with me go see a global. I have no issue with you and don't feel the need to email you.



In the future don't hijack a thread though. Send someone a PM. I hear they work now.

Hijack a thread I dont even know what that is so no need for you to make accusations !

Boo Hoo Hoo to you as well Your sarcasism is yet another pathetic attempt of you showing your true colors.

I dont need to go running to a global MOD not my style or needed .

But no wait your a great MOD the best really , sincerely , NOT !

P.S. You never hurt my feelings or ever could . You just simply showed what a sorry excuse you are .
& what is up with the green letters thats stupid !

1. Thread hijacking is where the thread becomes about you not liking me instead of you not liking my stance on John Brockman being a nice scrub off the bench. You've done that.

2. Don't complain about any forum mod as all it will do is get you warned. Now I'm not going to do this in this instance because I've clearly been egging you on. Going forward though your responses about me will either go to a global or we'll get you warned. No sarcasm about that.

3. Again attack the argument not the person. You're really on warning status, but since I really do feel like I struck a nerve with your affection for the Brock we'll let it slide. You do have to understand though I don't care and this isn't personal to me at all. I'm actually enjoying watching you fall all over yourself in defense of the Brock. It's just funny to me (and others) but you're pissed.

4. In closing talking about another poster in a thread completely outside of the thread topic is called thread hijacking. Calling another poster "sorry" or any remarks to the person isn't what we do here. I can flame your ideas until the point has been proven and I've done that. You however have been at me. It will stop. Do not reply to me in any form (PM, email, or in this thread) about this matter. We're done! It will just get you warned.

Now if anyone would like to continue talking about the Brock's departure to the Bucks you are welcome to do so. If you want to talk about me, other people, Smills, etc I'm shutting all that down.

Just to clear this up

1st I was not Hijacking a thread & if I was that I did not mean to do I dont even know what that is even when you just explained it i still dont get it becasuse I didnt hate you nor do i know though i dont care for how you handled this.

2nd yes I do feel that you started the insults etc. as i know i never initiated that with you so yes i feel you egged it on & even encouraged it a bit .

3rd I dont feel that i have to go running to global whatever that is ? However if you want to do that then so be it thats your call to make ?

Finally I am more than willing to end all of this If you are as well & move on ?

I do not have a man crush on BROCK or whatever you said before I am simply very passionate about the fact the BROCK trade was a terrible one Just because you & a # of others are in agreement ot Petrie who I and many others believe is a genuis does not mean i agree with those of you who support the trade or that i agree I agree with every deal PETRIE makes as thats my right .

I have said all I have to say as I would hope you have already done so in your prior 2 messages in reguards to me .

I live my life for my 4 boys & wife not for the realgm kings board that is not meant to say anything about you or anyone else & it's not a cheap shot either . Again your MOD so you help enforce rules / violations & whatever you decide in how to handle this is fine with me but in all honesty i dont get why your warning me unless you are also warning yourself because for everything we have said to one another it takes two to tango & you are every bit as much at fault as i am for all of this .

p.s. I have never once brought SMILLS up in any of this you are talking about someone else on that I dont even have a clue as to whatever happened to him !

I am now done with this & I hope you are as well

thankyou

[ICMTM]

Public warning for thread hijacking and personal attacks to bdking! You were given your resolution options and chose to handle them in a manner that has been disruptive to the board. You declined to take your issue up with someone else and perused this in a public setting after given your options.

You will get a pm warning explaining what all this means.

In the meantime this thread is done. Don't create another John Brockman thread. The existing one is fine.