Availability of Omri Casspi
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Hey guys. I'm curious to see how high you were on Casspi relative to your other young wings and wanted to see if you might be open to moving him for a young PG like Ty Lawson, Eric Maynor, etc.
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I think we're mostly pretty high on him. I'd personally be all for moving him for Lawson though. Maynor would have to have some extra value, I think.
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Not Eric Maynor, no way. Lawson is closer but I like Casspis upside more. He also fits in perfectly with culture were trying to build. He gives us internationl exposure which is also a plus.
We are pretty high on Casspi.
We are pretty high on Casspi.
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Besides Evans and Cousins, who aren't going anywhere, Casspi may be one of the most difficult gets a team could target, I think Donte Greene, Carl Landry or Jason Thompson are all more easily traded than Casspi.
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Bac2Basics wrote:Besides Evans and Cousins, who aren't going anywhere, Casspi may be one of the most difficult gets a team could target, I think Donte Greene, Carl Landry or Jason Thompson are all more easily traded than Casspi.
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Bac2Basics wrote:Besides Evans and Cousins, who aren't going anywhere, Casspi may be one of the most difficult gets a team could target, I think Donte Greene, Carl Landry or Jason Thompson are all more easily traded than Casspi.
surprisingly though, from what i have been able to understand, it would seem donte greene is more liked than casspi around this board and is regarded my most as the heir to the starting SF position, yet we are more willing to trade him than casspi?
don't get me wrong. by no reason i'm saying that most of you like donte over omri as a fact or that omri is not liked by the fanbase. to the contrary, i know we all regard both as great players and like both of them at the SF position. i was just stating my opinion from what i've seen in past posts regarding which of them will command the starting SF position this season. personally i wouldn't give neither for lawson...and have the nuggets high on my list of teams in the west (last season: 1.SAC,2.DAL,3.DEN,4.OKC).
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The Omri/Donte debate is 50/50. The thing about Casspi is we know what he is. Greene we see potential. Some of it is the same thing Omri does but I see him far more dynamic. I'd really like to see them on the floor together more often.
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^^Only way I want them on the floor together is if Greene is at PF in an uptempo running lineup.
Casspi is interesting because in so many ways he's just what a team wants as a good potential, good defender, highly energetic player. But at times he gets a little too single minded and tries to force his way to the hoop instead of letting the game come to him. That said if he starts this year he could easily average 15pts 5rbs 1stl with a good 3pt percentage and very good defense.
The other thing is Donte Greene came into summer league looking like a much improved player, he's gotten taller, and seems to be able to do more things on the court and has the potential to be a fantastic defender. His 3pt shooting looked dead eye, and in general he just looked more complete as a player than he ever has before. With all of that he very may well come out of training camp as our starter.
As of right now I'm willing to trade Casspi, or Greene for a high level PG prospect. Maynor would be a no go, he's clearly going to be a good career backup type, Lawson maybe but I have concerns about him as a defender due to his size. I would be more interested in Jrue Holiday whom I think would be a perfect fit. I'm also potentially interested in Brooks but again his size is a concern.
Casspi is interesting because in so many ways he's just what a team wants as a good potential, good defender, highly energetic player. But at times he gets a little too single minded and tries to force his way to the hoop instead of letting the game come to him. That said if he starts this year he could easily average 15pts 5rbs 1stl with a good 3pt percentage and very good defense.
The other thing is Donte Greene came into summer league looking like a much improved player, he's gotten taller, and seems to be able to do more things on the court and has the potential to be a fantastic defender. His 3pt shooting looked dead eye, and in general he just looked more complete as a player than he ever has before. With all of that he very may well come out of training camp as our starter.
As of right now I'm willing to trade Casspi, or Greene for a high level PG prospect. Maynor would be a no go, he's clearly going to be a good career backup type, Lawson maybe but I have concerns about him as a defender due to his size. I would be more interested in Jrue Holiday whom I think would be a perfect fit. I'm also potentially interested in Brooks but again his size is a concern.
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villatrynity154 wrote:Bac2Basics wrote:Besides Evans and Cousins, who aren't going anywhere, Casspi may be one of the most difficult gets a team could target, I think Donte Greene, Carl Landry or Jason Thompson are all more easily traded than Casspi.
surprisingly though, from what i have been able to understand, it would seem donte greene is more liked than casspi around this board and is regarded my most as the heir to the starting SF position, yet we are more willing to trade him than casspi?
don't get me wrong. by no reason i'm saying that most of you like donte over omri as a fact or that omri is not liked by the fanbase. to the contrary, i know we all regard both as great players and like both of them at the SF position. i was just stating my opinion from what i've seen in past posts regarding which of them will command the starting SF position this season. personally i wouldn't give neither for lawson...and have the nuggets high on my list of teams in the west (last season: 1.SAC,2.DAL,3.DEN,4.OKC).
Yeah, it's really about 50/50, but peoples answers change often. It really depends on how things are going and what sort of line-up we want would fit with one player.
To answer the question though honestly the Kings don't seem interested in traded Casspi at all especially fort someone like Maynor (lol) or Felton.
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I also agree that the fan base for both Caspi and Greene is 50/50 - And I think that is a reflection of the struggle for the sf position, I think at this moment it could go either way.. Also I do not see the kings trading either of the 2 until we decide who we want to start at that position, and then obviously the person left out will probably be more likely to be traded...
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Bac2Basics wrote:Besides Evans and Cousins, who aren't going anywhere, Casspi may be one of the most difficult gets a team could target, I think Donte Greene, Carl Landry or Jason Thompson are all more easily traded than Casspi.
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Bac2Basics wrote:Besides Evans and Cousins, who aren't going anywhere, Casspi may be one of the most difficult gets a team could target, I think Donte Greene, Carl Landry or Jason Thompson are all more easily traded than Casspi.
I really doubt Casspi is ahead of Thompson on the priority list, both are average starters/good bench players type, and in this case the big man is ahead of the SF, and in the current roster status, Beno is ahead of him too.
I believe one of Casspi (or Greene) is available for a similar level combo guard, someone like Eric Gordon (not necessarily 1 for 1), the Arizona guard with the Blazers, and such players.
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Cassipi has the potential to be a right handed Mino GInobili. We're not trading him for Ty Lawson. Even fans from his team dont' think he has all-star potential. Casspi has All-Star potential. In conclusion, we ain't trading him.
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I really doubt Casspi is ahead of Thompson on the priority list, both are average starters/good bench players type, and in this case the big man is ahead of the SF, and in the current roster status, Beno is ahead of him too.
I believe one of Casspi (or Greene) is available for a similar level combo guard, someone like Eric Gordon (not necessarily 1 for 1), the Arizona guard with the Blazers, and such players.
I bet he is if for nothing more than the fact that we are stacked in the frontcourt and JT's contract is coming up for debate soon.
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It depends on what happens. I think most here agree that Dalembert is probably a one year rental for us, and then who knows what happens with Landry? That's who it really hinges on. If we don't think we'll want to fork over enough for Carl long term, then Jason suddenly becomes a very important piece for this team--particularly since Petrie can draft very good wings in the late 1st round in his sleep.
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If Jason played smarter last year and not had to play C he would have been considered untouchable. If Jason smartens up he's a LOCK.
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And if monkeys flew out of my butt.....
Sorry had to be done, hehehe. Anyway, I still think it depends on how Cousins looks with another big out there on the court. I would totally not be surprised at all if at the start of next year we have a rotation of Cousins, Daly, and Whiteside at PF/C. Petrie still has to do something though, he can't just let Landry walk and he can't just let Thompson hit the market in another year with a QO as our one fallback. I also don't know if it's really smart to extend JT either. Depends on the figures but if Cisco got what he got you can only imagine what JT's agent would think he's worth.
Sorry had to be done, hehehe. Anyway, I still think it depends on how Cousins looks with another big out there on the court. I would totally not be surprised at all if at the start of next year we have a rotation of Cousins, Daly, and Whiteside at PF/C. Petrie still has to do something though, he can't just let Landry walk and he can't just let Thompson hit the market in another year with a QO as our one fallback. I also don't know if it's really smart to extend JT either. Depends on the figures but if Cisco got what he got you can only imagine what JT's agent would think he's worth.
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I really doubt Casspi is ahead of Thompson on the priority list, both are average starters/good bench players type, and in this case the big man is ahead of the SF, and in the current roster status, Beno is ahead of him too.
I believe one of Casspi (or Greene) is available for a similar level combo guard, someone like Eric Gordon (not necessarily 1 for 1), the Arizona guard with the Blazers, and such players.
I bet he is if for nothing more than the fact that we are stacked in the frontcourt and JT's contract is coming up for debate soon.
We have 2 PFs in Landry and Thompson, and we have 3 SFs in Casspi, Garcia and Greene, also, Landry and Dally are expiring, there is no knowing what's going to happen, Dally is probabely gone by the end of the season, which means we'll have 3 rotation bigs and one project, that's not stacked at all.
while Garcia and Greene still have many years ahead of them and it's safe to assume they are here to stay.
Add to that the fact that Thompson is a serviceable big at the very least, and Casspi plays the most common position in the NBA, the answer should be very easy.
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I would say that Casspi is like a mini Yao Ming, in that he brings recognition and marketability beyond his skills simply for his nationality. I live in Encino and people here love him. At the Kings/Clippers game last year our entire section was Casspi fans. He was getting more cheers than the Clippers at their own home game. The same could be true for New York. So any trade for Casspi would have to be lopsided in terms of talent simply for the revenue stream he brings.
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casspi just needs to put it together...and he's in his second year. decision making is where he needs to get better. in what situation should he use what move...cause the skills are there. you don't trade that away. but you^^^are right, he will always be more valuable for his nationality than his skills.