Kings starting SF

[moosachi]

the easiest time for any NBA player to get better hasnt come yet (training camp) i trust the organization to make the right choice. I feel that casspi is better but he did look to rushy in the Summer league. I think he was trying too hard just so he can try and show them that he should start. Ultimatly, it comes down to training camp and preseason. Right now, im leaning towards casspi. The organization will make the right decision though, when the time comes..

[moosachi]

oh yea and one more thing.... they are both unfairly horribly disgusting in NBA 2K10 which pisses me off.

[panfish]

I'm new to the Board and to the Kings. I've been following Antoine Wright's career since he was drafted by the Nets. I think the fans are going to be surprised by the impact he will make on the team. He always has a great camp, so no doubt he'll push for minutes early on. Most coaches he has had tend to use him more in defensive spots, which means lots of end game minutes. When he's hitting his shot, mostly 3's from right and left corner, he can be very effective. Also, while he's a good on the ball defender, he's underrated as a help defender and rebounder.

[pillwenney]

I think it's definitely Casspi right now, and will be until Donte becomes consistent with his outside shot. As long as Donte is inconsistent from the outside, he really isn't ideal to be starting next to Tyreke.

[ICMTM]

Neither guy has proven consistency over an 82 game schedule. Nothing is clear right now. If you look at Donte's work he played three different positions last year and tried to fit in as best he could. Last year Casspi was the better three until about the new year. He fell off! Greene came in and played better than he did.

Greene/Casspi shooting %'s are almost identical FWI so shot consistency is a fallacy.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sac/depthchart

Interesting take on our lineup. I don't know about the Cousins/JT 4/5 thing but I'm big on Greene and Casspi starting together. Even still I like both players. I like Greene's game a little more but c'mon people quit arguing with emotion! This situation is far from clear. Whoever said expect PW lineup tinkering was spot on.

[pillwenney]

Yeah, but I think it's also clear Casspi hit the rookie wall. Assuming he doesn't hit that again this year, he is absolutely the better and more consistent outside shooter. Donte is streaky and when he's on, he's great. But before he hit the wall, Casspi was clearly the better outside shooter. At the very least, I think he'll start off the year as the more qualified option.


And there are a lot of things wrong with that lineup--mostly that if JT/Cousins are the starting bigs (which I fully support), Cousins is clearly the center. It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of course, but you have to wonder about Yahoo.

Also, Dalembert is obviously going to be ahead of Hassan right now.

Tyreke/Donte/Casspi is certainly interesting. It has its strengths, but I just worry these are outweighed by its weaknesses--or at least they will be in the long run.

[Wolfay]

I kinda like the idea of starting a (near) 7 footer with freakish athleticism at the SF spot! Honestly, I'm fine with either starting, but I see Greene creating more problems on both sides of the floor with his unique combination of size and athleticism. Casspi is more polished, but Greene has more talent.

[ICMTM]

Yeah, but I think it's also clear Casspi hit the rookie wall. Assuming he doesn't hit that again this year, he is absolutely the better and more consistent outside shooter. Donte is streaky and when he's on, he's great. But before he hit the wall, Casspi was clearly the better outside shooter. At the very least, I think he'll start off the year as the more qualified option.


And there are a lot of things wrong with that lineup--mostly that if JT/Cousins are the starting bigs (which I fully support), Cousins is clearly the center. It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of course, but you have to wonder about Yahoo.

Also, Dalembert is obviously going to be ahead of Hassan right now.

Tyreke/Donte/Casspi is certainly interesting. It has its strengths, but I just worry these are outweighed by its weaknesses--or at least they will be in the long run.

I think it's clear he hasn't been able to produce for 82 games yet. Give Donte one role on the team and watch his effectiveness increase, no? I'm not giving either guy an out here! Look Tyreke didn't hit a rookie wall. Casspi, who played less minutes did, or did defenses adjust to him? Truthfully the answer is it doesn't matter. When Donte played the 4, then the 2, then didn't play, then the three he had mixed results. Once he was just the three he played consistent ball. My thing with Donte is give him ONE ROLE and he will shine in it. I don't care if it's 1-4 I really think he's good enough to do it.

Casspi is a 3, and only a 3.

I feel like the only person who's stopping DG is DG's knowledge of the game. He's been working and been doing everything asked of him. There hasn't been any issue with him complaining about his role (Casspi did). There hasn't been any trade rumors around the guy or rumors he wants to be traded (there was with Casspi). If I'm picking between the two I'd pick Greene...however I'd like to see Greene play more 2.

[_SRV_]

I think Casspi will start at the beginning, second unit needs ball handlers, and other than Garcia, there aren't any, Greene might not be Steve Nash in this regard, but he's definitely better than Casspi, if Beno is benched (highly unlikely) and Tyreke starts at the PG with Cisco at the 2, then it's up in the air.
Frankly, the rotation in every position is still up in the air, you can say this about every position from 1 to 5.

[longfellow44]

^^I agree completely, This year is all abour building the right chemistry, and that means it won't necessarily be the most talented players in the starting unit. Instead you will find the guys who work best together and that could be a wide range of lineups.

My Preference
Udrih
Evans
Casspi
Landry
Dalembert

2nd Unit
Evans
Garcia
Greene
Thompson
Cousins

3rd unit
Udrih
Garcia
Casspi
Thompson
Dalembert

4th Unit
Jeter
Evans
Greene
Landry
Cousins

[pillwenney]

Yeah, but I think it's also clear Casspi hit the rookie wall. Assuming he doesn't hit that again this year, he is absolutely the better and more consistent outside shooter. Donte is streaky and when he's on, he's great. But before he hit the wall, Casspi was clearly the better outside shooter. At the very least, I think he'll start off the year as the more qualified option.


And there are a lot of things wrong with that lineup--mostly that if JT/Cousins are the starting bigs (which I fully support), Cousins is clearly the center. It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of course, but you have to wonder about Yahoo.

Also, Dalembert is obviously going to be ahead of Hassan right now.

Tyreke/Donte/Casspi is certainly interesting. It has its strengths, but I just worry these are outweighed by its weaknesses--or at least they will be in the long run.

I think it's clear he hasn't been able to produce for 82 games yet. Give Donte one role on the team and watch his effectiveness increase, no? I'm not giving either guy an out here! Look Tyreke didn't hit a rookie wall. Casspi, who played less minutes did, or did defenses adjust to him? Truthfully the answer is it doesn't matter. When Donte played the 4, then the 2, then didn't play, then the three he had mixed results. Once he was just the three he played consistent ball. My thing with Donte is give him ONE ROLE and he will shine in it. I don't care if it's 1-4 I really think he's good enough to do it.

Casspi is a 3, and only a 3.

I feel like the only person who's stopping DG is DG's knowledge of the game. He's been working and been doing everything asked of him. There hasn't been any issue with him complaining about his role (Casspi did). There hasn't been any trade rumors around the guy or rumors he wants to be traded (there was with Casspi). If I'm picking between the two I'd pick Greene...however I'd like to see Greene play more 2.

True that Tyreke didn't hit the rookie wall. But I also can't remember a player who hit the wall their rookie year and just never got over it. It's not about making excuses for him or anything. It's about using this information to project what he'll be like in the future. I would expect him to be better equipped to handle the rigors of an 82 game season this year because that's pretty much what always happens. Therefore, I expect his 3 point shot to remain consistent.

To be clear, I'm not even arguing over who is the better player. I think they're extremely close. For me, Omri starting is purely about fit. I think we need his more consistent outside shooting more than we need Donte's defense. I certainly won't be up in arms regardless of who starts since, like we all seem to agree, it is very close between them, and their minutes should be very similar regardless. I just think Omri is the better fit with Tyreke.

[sactown15]

I think the job starts off as Casspi's, minutes for both should be close (split time), playing great in the VSL doesn't mean much (IMO), Greene is a great player, and i believe by the end of the season/start of next season, he takes over the job.