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Re: Weak Draft Class - Trade Pick? 

Post#21 » by Wolfay » Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:12 pm

SacKingZZZ wrote:Troy Gillenwater. Combo F version of Paul Pierce. We have to draft this kid if he comes out.


Where do you come up with all of these scrubs nobody has ever heard of?
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Re: Weak Draft Class - Trade Pick? 

Post#22 » by God Squad » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:57 pm

Never heard of him either. . :lol:
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Re: Weak Draft Class - Trade Pick? 

Post#23 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:34 pm

I watched him a little bit in the tournament last year and caught a replay of an Arizona/New Mexico state game last night. Did a little research too, dude's legit. He's got a pretty big body. listed at 6'8", probably closer to 6'7". Very physical player, he can shoot, drive the ball, rebound, and just has great scoring instincts overall. He's a guy that started out as the typical "tweener" but seems to be really developing into a true SF, and unlike a lot of SF's playing PF in College he's actually playing quite a bit of true SF. If he can make the transition completely he'll just beat the hell out of opposing players at and away from the basket.

He also plays some very solid defense inside and on the perimeter. He has a sweet stroke and can shoot off the dribble from NBA 3 point range without a problem, a lot like Paul Pierce body wise and with the way he shoots.

It's early and the only "real" competition he's faced is Arizona but he's putting up 25 ppg, 7 rpg, and 1 bpg. His per-minute numbers have always been really good (14 ppg, 6.8 rpg in 22 mpg last year) and as his role and minutes have increased they've only gone up as the numbers would suggest. He definitely shows potential of being a "go to" guy on the perimeter as well as solid off the ball. I'll certainly be following this kids season.

Here's a write up from draftexpress.com, just scroll down to number 29, be in mind this is before the college year began:

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Top-NBA-Draft-Prospects-in-Non-BCS-Conferences-Part-Five-26-30--3582/
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Re: Weak Draft Class - Trade Pick? 

Post#24 » by Wolfay » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:34 pm

The report says he's undersized, not athletic, and is not comfortable defending on the perimeter. They're also not sure his post game will translate to the NBA and has a steep hill to climb to become an NBA prospect. He's far from legit, let alone a combo F version of Paul Pierce.
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Post#25 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:50 am

Once again though, that report was based on last year in limited minutes and games, he looks to have really jumped to another level. It's also based around the idea that he's a PF at the next level, which he may or may not be, if he plays there he will be a matchup nightmare and really hard to guard. He can play minutes at both F spots IMO. Like I said, it's early on, but right now it's looking good for him. Don't be surprised if you start hearing this name more and more.
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Re: Weak Draft Class - Trade Pick? 

Post#26 » by Wolfay » Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:44 am

I don't know about a 6'7" PF. That's gimmicky Nellie-ball. If he can adapt his game to playing the 3, then more power to him and he might be worth a look...in the second round. Since we're looking at a mid-lotto pick, there's plenty of better options to select before him.
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Re: Weak Draft Class - Trade Pick? 

Post#27 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:47 am

Wolfay wrote:I don't know about a 6'7" PF. That's gimmicky Nellie-ball. If he can adapt his game to playing the 3, then more power to him and he might be worth a look...in the second round. Since we're looking at a mid-lotto pick, there's plenty of better options to select before him.


I wasn't necessarily referring to us using a high lotto pick, but you never know. Like I said, the college hoops season with determine what happens, there's the potential for a LOT of movement up and down the draft board come next June.

So far from what I've seen there's potential that he could be making those strides now. If not, like I said, he'll be a matchup nightmare at the 4.
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Re: Weak Draft Class - Trade Pick? 

Post#28 » by SacKingZZZ » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:34 am

Watching Draymond Green. He's really improved upon his game. Starting to really remind me of a Charles Barkley type. Seems to be making that jumper better and better all the time. Very skilled, smallish but he's got a ton of talent. Starting to come into his own.
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Post#29 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:07 am

Nice to see Derrick Williams get some hype. Dudes athletic as all hell. Threw down a crazy 360 dunk in the open court as another player tried to steal it. He actually avoided the swipe by spinning away and just carrying through with the spin and then slammed it. One of the better in game dunks I've seen.
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Post#30 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:11 am

Chris Singleton might be growing into his potential. Could be the player Donte Greene hoped to be. Could be a nice combo with Cuz up front as that weakside shotblocker/floor spreader/athlete. Definitely keeping my eye on this dude.
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Re: Weak Draft Class - Trade Pick? 

Post#31 » by SacKingZZZ » Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:47 am

Watched Ohio State and Florida State go at it, and while he didn't have a great offensive game, I came away very impressed with Chris Singleton. There isn't anything this guy can't do defensively. He defended the C position for a good chunk of the game! He can legitimately guard 4 positions and his abilities as a weak side shotblocker are incredible. One of the announcers compared him to Marcus Camby and he's probably not very far off. He could be the perfect fit next to Cousins at PF. Still a combo but he can do a little bit of everything and most importantly he can shoot. I can just imagine him and Donte (or Prince or Battier) being able to switch off to the big on the perimeter and vice versa. Would give Cousins and Evans a ton of room out there and he still has the talent to be a main option on offense.

This kids stock is going to skyrocket as the season goes along.
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Re: Weak Draft Class - Trade Pick? 

Post#32 » by ADoaN17 » Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:59 am

Kemba Walker!
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Re: Weak Draft Class - Trade Pick? 

Post#33 » by SacKingZZZ » Wed Dec 1, 2010 7:10 am

Well I'm still holding out hope we won't be that high. hahaha.

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