What do we do now?

[ADoaN17]

I agree that Beno is selfish but he does not suck. He average around 50% shooting last year and for a pg thats great. He has not been improving tho.

[SacKingZZZ]

Troy Murphy is shooting 31% from the field for $11million.

JT is shooting 47% this season for $2million.

JT is NOW Troy Murphy like in his prime out to the 3 point line. LaMarcus Aldridge is shooting 43%

JT is a perfect compliment to DMC/Tyreke and is 24.

Donte and Casspi are 22 still. Donte shoots the same FG% as Bargniani and LA who get $9-11mil a year. Casspi shoots 40% from 3.

Trading Landry for a Brooks like PG would be great, if not we have 2 more studs coming next year.

8 years when the Kings were great they used 1 system with 1 coach.

They have used 6 different coaches in the past 6 years.

Let the youth continue to master Westphal's system and they will win when ready together.

Like to see a change of scenery myself. Waters pretty muddy up there in NJ for him, still a contract year and he's shot the ball with pretty decent success from 3 throughout his career. I watched a lot of Murphy at Golden State so I know who he is. It's that little bit of range than JT doesn't have that we could use.

[RekeHavoc]

Troy Murphy is shooting 31% from the field for $11million.

JT is shooting 47% this season for $2million.

JT is NOW Troy Murphy like in his prime out to the 3 point line. LaMarcus Aldridge is shooting 43%

JT is a perfect compliment to DMC/Tyreke and is 24.

Donte and Casspi are 22 still. Donte shoots the same FG% as Bargniani and LA who get $9-11mil a year. Casspi shoots 40% from 3.

Trading Landry for a Brooks like PG would be great, if not we have 2 more studs coming next year.

8 years when the Kings were great they used 1 system with 1 coach.

They have used 6 different coaches in the past 6 years.

Let the youth continue to master Westphal's system and they will win when ready together.

Like to see a change of scenery myself. Waters pretty muddy up there in NJ for him, still a contract year and he's shot the ball with pretty decent success from 3 throughout his career. I watched a lot of Murphy at Golden State so I know who he is. It's that little bit of range than JT doesn't have that we could use.

Cosigned, we need another 3 point shooter. Besides, JT doesn't even play that much anyway since Westphal has a hard on for Landry.

[KingInExile]

The biggest liabilities right now are Dally, Landry, the lack of a consistent outside threat and lack of a true floor leader. All of these need to be addressed for this team to improve...possibly in that order.

What makes you think dally is the biggest liability? He does everything I expected him to do - rebound and block shots. On top of that he's a good passer as well.

Wolfay pretty much nailed it with his assessment of Dally....he's an idiot. As I said in another thread yesterday, yes he brings needed positives in shot blocking and he has good passing abilities. However for every good pass he makes and for every shot he blocks, he makes 2-3 boneheaded mistakes. He's often lost on offense and many times mishandles passes to him because he's not paying attention to the ball movement. He clunks ill-advised shots when he should be passing and passes up good shots when he has them. Philly fans commented for years that he had little basketball IQ. He's so far proved them correct.

Biggest liabilities by far is Udrihs defense and Tyreke hasn't been all that great either. We constantly get beat to the basket by the opposing guards.

Udrih is not even close to a leader - if by leader you mean when he's shooting 1-9 - charges to the basket and into a triple team decides to throw a layup that is easily swatted by Jordan, instead of dishing it off to Cousin who was wide open and ready for a throw down.

I think our team, due to its youth has poor bball iq and overall awareness.

Others have done a good job explaining Beno's benefits, so I'm not going to spend time rehashing their posts. All I'm going to say is that it really seems like you're not watching him play or you're judging him based on flawed expectations.

As for criticism of Tyreke, I am as big an advocate of criticizing him as anyone on this board. But my criticism is not based on thinking he's a bad player. It''s based on my desire to see Tyreke be Tyreke...not him forcing himself into something that he's not. My biggest criticism, though, is that I think he needs to step up and take a leadership role...something he has seemed unwilling to do. I don't see anything about him as a "liability". These are just attributes that a young player needs to work on to improve.

[SacKingZZZ]

Dalembert is the type of player that isn't going to take a bad team anywhere, but he's the type of player just about every championship team needs. He was playing really, really well until lately. I knew he didn't look right and then word about his knee came out. He looks like it too. Just doesn't have the lift he did a few weeks ago. He's blocking most of his shots flat footed the last couple of games.

[KF10]

I don't usually post videos but I found this one to be funny and almost spot on:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw6yXEt3ZFA[/youtube]

[Alex_De_Large]

(1) Trade Udrih. He is selfish, does not know how to play the PG position, shoots almost every time he brings the ball up before even passing or running a play, and is just a terrible basketball player. He shoots 24% from the three point line but takes 2.5 a game. He also averages about the same number of FG attempts per game as Carl Landry, which is second most to Tyreke. Do we seriously think he should be taking the pretty much the second most shots on our team? No, he's a D-league benchwarmer. Please, homers, don't be fooled by his occasional 20 point game--if anyone in the NBA shot as much as him, they'd do that too. He is the #1 reason why we suck. I've watched pretty much every game since he got here, and have seen how much of a worthless and negative effect he has on our team.

(2) We have to accept that our "defensive" line-ups suck so bad on offense that we can't win games with them. Play our best offensive players--the difference between their offense and defense is smaller than the difference between our defensive players defense and offense. Start Evans/Garcia/Casspi/Thompson/Cousins with Landry the first guy off the bench. Garcia will stop the bleeding from Udrih and Head's embarrassing play until we find a replacement.

(3) Accept that Donte Greene does not have potential. Stop playing him. We've seen the best he can do and that's 1 good game a month. People make vague statements about his "defense," but his guys still go off. And his offensive stats are atrocious and speak for themselves. He's not good. We traded Artest for nothing and have to come to terms with that. Life goes on.

(4) Tell Tyreke to limit his jump shots, even if he is wide open. Teams leave him wide open out there for a reason. Teams will leave Shaq alone at the three point line but that doesn't mean he should shoot from out there. Tyreke's shot did NOT improve from the offseason; just look at the numbers. It got "worse" technically, but that's probably because he shoots more and we're seeing his true percentage. Accept that the league has figured him out and exposed a huge weakness in his game, and that he might not be the future all-star we had hoped for. Adjust--work around that, and realize that even if he "needs to dominate the ball to be effective," he has to learn how to be effective in different ways, because him dominating the ball has led to a 4-15 record. He's not good enough right now.

(5) Give the ball to DeMarcus Cousins. A lot. Good things happen.

Cliffnotes:
-Udrih is garbage. Get rid of him.
-Head is worse. We have the worst PG lineup in the history of the league, and just need to play Garcia there until we can make a trade.
-Greene is garbage. He doesn't have potential. Quit with him and our "defensive" lineups. They don't win.
-Tyreke needs to stop shooting jumpers and share the ball more, particularly with DeMarcus Cousins.

.461% for Udrih.
438% for Cisco
.414 % for Greene
.401% for Cousins.

But yeah, lets say Udrih is a ballhog LOL give the ball to Cousins in the final minutes like in the last 2 games so Kings can tank correctly