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Re: What are the Kings doing? 

Post#21 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:40 pm

Some very good news from the Maloofs in that last CBS article and some not so good. Like what I hear about not spending unwisely and waiting for the right moment. Like them sticking with Petrie. Don't like the words of confidence about Westphal. He's the WRONG guy period. Sticking with certain things is the right idea but the only thing truly failing right now is his strategic foundation and his ability to handle "difficult" players. Everything that's happening now is just entirely too coincidental to certain things behind the scenes last year and events that took place with Westphal during his last NBA head coaching gig. Wake up Maloofs, what you see isn't false or an illusion. Use your heads. Same to you Petrie, this isn't the time for you to stare off into space while thinking of your next great quote to explain why things are in the dumper.

I guess all we can do now is root for things to change with what's here. If the Maloofs are serious about sticking with Westphal for the rest of the year it's all we can do I guess. My fear about this old dog is that it ain't going to learn any new tricks and if it doesn't, we in some deep ****. I'd hinge my future on Evans and Cousins taking this team somewhere, not Paul Westphal. Not at all.
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Re: What are the Kings doing? 

Post#22 » by longfellow44 » Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:24 am

truly I think if we just added more shooters to this team and got rid of dalembert we would see a huge difference. Giving slashers and post players the appropriate amount of spacing is key to their success. Last year when evans slashed to the hoop the other team had to worry about nocioni and hawes spotting up for a 3. This season there hasn't been any body other than casspi to kick it out to that has a reasonable amount of accuracy from the 3. I say we make a move by using dalembert to bring back a 3pt shooter that can handle and pass the ball. JJ reddick would be perfect. Getting rid of dalembert opens up more playing time for thompson and landry allowing those guys to blossom into their appropriate roles. Getting Reddick or someone similar takes some pressure off of tyreke and beno to always be on the floor and ready to distribute and finally it just creates more space for guys in the post by keeping the defense honest.

Adding a deadly 3pt shooter will also make Westphals weird offense look a whole lot better because the spacing will be better and the defense won't be able to collapse on tyreke every single time without fear of giving a shooter too much space.

so what I'm saying is do it petrie, trade dalembert for Reddick. Take on some more salary if you have to the trade will be worth it for everyone on our team from the coaches to the plaers
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Re: What are the Kings doing? 

Post#23 » by SacKingZZZ » Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:26 am

longfellow44 wrote:truly I think if we just added more shooters to this team and got rid of dalembert we would see a huge difference. Giving slashers and post players the appropriate amount of spacing is key to their success. Last year when evans slashed to the hoop the other team had to worry about nocioni and hawes spotting up for a 3. This season there hasn't been any body other than casspi to kick it out to that has a reasonable amount of accuracy from the 3. I say we make a move by using dalembert to bring back a 3pt shooter that can handle and pass the ball. JJ reddick would be perfect. Getting rid of dalembert opens up more playing time for thompson and landry allowing those guys to blossom into their appropriate roles. Getting Reddick or someone similar takes some pressure off of tyreke and beno to always be on the floor and ready to distribute and finally it just creates more space for guys in the post by keeping the defense honest.

Adding a deadly 3pt shooter will also make Westphals weird offense look a whole lot better because the spacing will be better and the defense won't be able to collapse on tyreke every single time without fear of giving a shooter too much space.

so what I'm saying is do it petrie, trade dalembert for Reddick. Take on some more salary if you have to the trade will be worth it for everyone on our team from the coaches to the plaers



Dude, the lack of spacing has just about everything to do with Westphals "system". The paint is packed because he's totally reliant on offensive rebounding and holds 2nd shot opportunities over good 1st shot opportunities. We need shooters but you can't tell me on paper, and historically, a lineup of Cisco and Omri on the wing wouldn't be more than enough spacing.
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Re: What are the Kings doing? 

Post#24 » by longfellow44 » Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:10 pm

^^im saying it isnt enough spacing when he insists on playing evans, cousins, and landry all at the same time. And i dont think ive seen both casspi and garcia in the lineup with those other three. I agree westphals whole system is a mess. But if we take certain things out of his hands bybtrading away guys like landry and dalembert for shooters the other positive parts of his system will shine through.

Personally i like the motion that we see when we are doing the handoff passes on the perimeter and it leads to good ball movement on the perimeter, its just that even at that point we have the lane clogged with both landry and cousins making a drive into the lane unwise and we dont have the shooters to take advantage on the perumeter.

However i am with you that if we can get a top notch replacement for westphal mid sason we go ahead and dump the guy. But if not we should go ahead and let him finish out the season with some better personnel. And by better i mean better fiting.
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Re: What are the Kings doing? 

Post#25 » by cdt3 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:18 pm

SacKingZZZ wrote:
JSrose115 wrote:Petrie is either waiting for the lockout if there is one or he is tanking to draft high and splurge this off season. Either way it's looking like another dreadful LONG season.



No, he's not really. Petrie for as many positives in his abilities that he has, one thing he has exhibited in the past is patience to a dangerous level. Also an overestimation in the potential of his teams current situations.


Spencer Hawes right now is on pace for 15/10/2blocks in starter mins.

In full starter minutes Thompson would produce a 15/11/1.

Far better than Landry.

But Landry can't be traded right now because he cannot be resigned, he has to become a FA. He is worthless tradewise, and the MAGOOOFS forced out KMart for a bench scrub.

BUT DALEMBERT AND LANDRY DO LOOK MUCH TOUGHER IN THE TEAM PHOTOS AND PREGAME DUNK LINE.

The only thing that matters are Ws no matter how they come.

The Magoofs can't fire Petrie then EVERY fan in the NBA will know they forced all the trades and coaching changes, and ran the rebuilding into the ground.

I was a fan of the Kings during the before Geoff Petrie, they were terrible.

Get used to losing Kings fans. You will eventually pull your head out when you realize how clownish the MAGOOFS are as owners.
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Re: What are the Kings doing? 

Post#26 » by Sacramento_King » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:35 pm

cdt3 wrote:
SacKingZZZ wrote:
JSrose115 wrote:Petrie is either waiting for the lockout if there is one or he is tanking to draft high and splurge this off season. Either way it's looking like another dreadful LONG season.



No, he's not really. Petrie for as many positives in his abilities that he has, one thing he has exhibited in the past is patience to a dangerous level. Also an overestimation in the potential of his teams current situations.


Spencer Hawes right now is on pace for 15/10/2blocks in starter mins.

In full starter minutes Thompson would produce a 15/11/1.

Far better than Landry.


I see a lot of these in 48 minutes, so and so would average this, but that is such a flawed stat. Doesn't take into account situations, foul trouble etc. Landry in starter minutes averages much higher than his current as well. I understand people may not like him but I think the main problem is Westphal. Fix that first and I bet the players would perform better.

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