SacKingsPejaFan wrote:SacKingZZZ wrote:pillwenney wrote:Well it's nice to get the win, but I really feel like this was more a function of the Wizards being absolutely terrible than us playing well. If we played like we're capable of playing the whole game, this thing would have been a blowout.
Cuz looks like he's kinda winded right now. Hopefully despite the young star's challenge, he can get some rest this weekend.
I have to agree with the impact Hayes makes defensively. Unfortunately, he's still mostly a liability offensively right now. It's not a good thing when you have to run things through a player for him to be affective, and that's ultimately beatable because he's not a threat to score.
Not really, the Kings shut down their pick and roll game late, true SHUT DOWN defense. Only a few mishaps that led to easy baskets but the Kings took the Wiz out of their game plan, no question.
The last two games we're seeing how Hayes can fit and how he should be used. There hasn't been much posting him up and rather than that they're using him for his passing in the high post and he's getting open looks off of put backs. That's the exact kind of player you want next to Cousins and crew because with Thornton, Evans, and Cousins the only other players on the floor should be shooters, ball movers, cutters, and defenders. Hayes is far from useless on offense just from his ability to screen. Houston fans talked about his ability to cut to the rim as well and we've only seen a bit of it, but as more practice comes I think it will show itself as well. I doubt it's a coincidence that after a few days of practice Cisco, Thornton, and even Reke all of a sudden know how to play off Hayes to an extent, they've been working on it. Cousins and Hayes are, and need to be the way guys like Reke and Thornton get some easy looks at the rim. It's there, just needs time and a coach to realize that it needs to be used every game.
No. Just no. It was the Wizards playing horribly. Give credit where credit is due--Thornton and Thomas took over the second half; Evans carried us for the first. The defense was still shoddy as ever overall. When the score is 115-107 against the Wizards, you outscored them, you didn't shut them down. Don't let a handful of defensive plays against a low-IQ offense that includes JaVale McGee color your view of what happened. We allowed a ton of wide-open threes and had the good fortune of the Wizards missing layups they were previously making and committing offensive fouls or making turnovers due to their own play at critical moments. And Hayes is an absolute liability on offense. His man has the luxury of helping on everybody and making our other guys' lives that much harder.
The Kings realgm forum...the only place on earth where Chuck Hayes is the reason we win every game and his misuse is the reason we lose every game
. Nobody in any other respectable sports discussion even talks about him. The real story here is Isaiah Thomas. Let's give the man some credit for running this team and going toe-to-toe with last year's ROY and beating him. When Hayes plays well, fine, pat him on the back; but when the discussion turns into paragraphs about Chuck Hayes when our 60th pick is playing as well as any rookie this year, that's shameful. Not only that, it's validation that we can't have a serious, objective, non-ultra-biased discussion about basketball here. Instead, every post is about how Chuck Hayes can do no wrong and is the best player on the planet. This is the equivalent of a Knicks forum at the present saying: Jeremy Lin? Let's not talk about Jeremy Lin. Let's talk about Josh Harrellson. Give me a break.
Great timing, yet again! hahaha. The only advice I can give to you is to pick your battles more wisely. When you're DOWN by 8 going into half time, let a team score almost 70 points in the first half, shoot well above 50%, and the finish the game giving up only 39 points in the 2nd half? If you call that "scoring more", well, then explain why the Kings the Kings "scored more" in the 1st half? Uh, technically in over generalized terms, which are quite frequent in your aruments, ANYTIME you win....uh....you score more? haha.
Merely pointing out an aspect of the game for this very reason, it goes unnoticed by all those who only look at the game from a boxscore, or from who has the ball on offense. Didn't say anything about IT in a negative fashion nor did anyone say that Hayes is the "best player on the planet". The pick and roll defense was stellar and a major reason why the Wizards scored 18 points in the fourth. Thomas and Cisco were a major part of that defense as well. If you disagree I implore you to watch the 4th quarter again. I did and I counted 9 times the Kings stopped the Wizards pick and roll, on one play it was stopped twice when they reset and tried to run it to the opposite side. JT was involved in two of the sequences and did a very good job as well. They scored ZERO points out of the pick and roll in the 4th that I saw. You see, that's called EVIDENCE. When the only backbone to whatever argument you're attempting to make are gross exaggerations like: "Instead, every post is about how Chuck Hayes can do no wrong and is the best player on the planet." it solidifies the point that you have no point. In the past you've taking stats and disregarded all situational factors which proves nothing and completely skews the result.
I have no idea why you have such a problem when anyone mentions the impact (very REAL at that) that Hayes brings to this game defensively. What exactly do you have against Hayes? They have a word for that, I'll let you guess what that is. Whatever vendetta you have, I'd just let it go, don't let it bother you so much, take it on the chin and move on.
BTW, if you're attempting to inflate a player for the sake of inflation you certainly don't go the "he plays great pick and roll defense!" route.
You'd be hearing about his "dominant" performances offensively and how this team should iso him in the post because of that lighting fast spin move of his. Nope, don't see that going on here. You might however. At least we didn't hear about the "so called passing abilty" from you, that would truly have made my day.
