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Re: Kings vs Jazz 

Post#61 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:18 am

The way Thornton ignites this team offensively, you can't put him onto the bench. I'd rather just put Evans and Thornton back in there together. Both are getting really good moving off the ball. Once either gets an easy look early it spells disaster for the other team.
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Re: Kings vs Jazz 

Post#62 » by longfellow44 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:03 am

^^^That may be true but with both of them on the court together our actual offense looks terrible. With 2 ball dominant guys on the floor at the same time and neither one of them a real PG or even someone who looks to set up an offense we end up in tempo trouble early. Even with Tyreke at the 3 it wasn't working out very well because we take the ball out of the hands of our only real PG so we never actually set up the offense at all.

I wanna bring one of them off the bench and hopefully draft a small forward that is a good shooter or look to make some sort of move to bring that type of player here.
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Re: Kings vs Jazz 

Post#63 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:34 am

That's why you continue to lessen their ball dominance with style of play. Even Reke is starting to really understand how to and when to go back door. His off the ball movement in that last game if something that he can do every game, is the thing that will help him take that next step as a player. Both have played as unselfishly as you can as a top options during the last month or so. This team is finding it's groove and as they continue to move off the ball and not need the ball so much, this team and they themselves will continue to improve.

This team was still inching up as a top assist team with Reke at the 3. The problem was this team was getting pounded by bigger teams. It wasn't necessarily any one player, it was the fact that as a trio, another team is going to find a way to force the Kings to defend someone with somebody who can't or shouldn't be defending them.

I personally think if they are deadset of having IT as the PG of the future, then they need to think about moving Reke.
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Re: Kings vs Jazz 

Post#64 » by Brown Notes » Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:01 pm

You guys better get Vlade in town as Flop Coach. If there was anything of value in Cousins' head he could have been injured on that play.
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Re: Kings vs Jazz 

Post#65 » by SacKingsPejaFan » Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:05 pm

Thornton is a better SG than Evans. Thomas is a better PG than Evans. It's either Evans off the bench or Evans at the three. I can't help but think there's some lingering, unjustified favoritism towards Evans because he's been here longer, has all the media hype behind him, and he feels like more of "our own" than Thornton and Thomas. But we don't have the luxury of putting someone as good as Thornton on the bench like the Thunder do with Harden, the Mavs do with Terry, the Sixers do with Lou Williams, and the Spurs sometimes do with Ginobili. It just won't work. Thornton and Thomas make Cousins and Thompson better; Evans doesn't. He makes himself better--that's it. That's the mark of a 6th man, not a starter. He may be going the way of OJ Mayo.
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Re: Kings vs Jazz 

Post#66 » by Cruel_Ruin » Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:57 pm

SacKingsPejaFan wrote:Thornton is a better SG than Evans. Thomas is a better PG than Evans. It's either Evans off the bench or Evans at the three. I can't help but think there's some lingering, unjustified favoritism towards Evans because he's been here longer, has all the media hype behind him, and he feels like more of "our own" than Thornton and Thomas. But we don't have the luxury of putting someone as good as Thornton on the bench like the Thunder do with Harden, the Mavs do with Terry, the Sixers do with Lou Williams, and the Spurs sometimes do with Ginobili. It just won't work. Thornton and Thomas make Cousins and Thompson better; Evans doesn't. He makes himself better--that's it. That's the mark of a 6th man, not a starter. He may be going the way of OJ Mayo.


Its called defense. And I disagree that Thornton is the better SG than Evans. Only if you count scoring and forget defense, playmaking, rebounding, etc.
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Cruel_Ruin wrote:I want to see Thornton off the bench and Tyreke at the 2. I'm comfortable going to battle against any backcourt in the NBA defensively with Thomas/Tyreke. Not so much with Thomas/Thornton.


Meh. I'd rather get a PG that's the size of a PG.


Unless we can get Steve Nash or something, I don't see a PG that we can realistically obtain who is as dynamic as Isaiah is at giving our offense a shot in the arm. Especially considering PG defense is the most irrelevant defensive position in this league right now
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Re: Kings vs Jazz 

Post#67 » by SacTownKings4Life » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:17 am

Cruel_Ruin wrote:
pillwenney wrote:
Cruel_Ruin wrote:I want to see Thornton off the bench and Tyreke at the 2. I'm comfortable going to battle against any backcourt in the NBA defensively with Thomas/Tyreke. Not so much with Thomas/Thornton.


Meh. I'd rather get a PG that's the size of a PG.


Unless we can get Steve Nash or something, I don't see a PG that we can realistically obtain who is as dynamic as Isaiah is at giving our offense a shot in the arm. Especially considering PG defense is the most irrelevant defensive position in this league right now


It seems some people are never satisfied no matter what we do. Somehow I believe we would eventually get tired even of Steve Nash. Maybe we should just trade Thomas and bring Beno back, since he was "the size" of a PG...
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Re: Kings vs Jazz 

Post#68 » by Wolfay » Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:37 am

SacTownKings4Life wrote:
Cruel_Ruin wrote:Unless we can get Steve Nash or something, I don't see a PG that we can realistically obtain who is as dynamic as Isaiah is at giving our offense a shot in the arm. Especially considering PG defense is the most irrelevant defensive position in this league right now


It seems some people are never satisfied no matter what we do. Somehow I believe we would eventually get tired even of Steve Nash. Maybe we should just trade Thomas and bring Beno back, since he was "the size" of a PG...


Exactly how I feel.
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