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Post#61 » by City of Trees » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:51 pm

Knowing our luck, Utah is offering the GS pick but the Maloofs say "hold on here, keep your pick, send us the cash!' :lol: :( :roll:
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Post#62 » by SacKingsPejaFan » Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:02 am

With the Brooks acquisition, this was inevitable. A Warriors top 6 protected pick is very legit. I don't think they've improved so much or can stay healthy enough to make the pick inconsequential. I'd pull the trigger if that's really what's on the table. Maybe we could do a New Orleans and pull #1 and #10 next year.
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Post#63 » by Wolfay » Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:43 am

That's a killer deal for a guy who we thought would have zero value right now. If it's real, THEN PULL THE TRIGGER! NOW!!!!
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Post#64 » by RaulLopez » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:18 am

Forget the gs pick. The best the Jazz are offering is to swap Raja for Jimmer. Jazz might throw in a second round pick to take Raja off our hands.
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Post#65 » by ADoaN17 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:20 am

Top 6 protected? Wow, hopefully Warriors do well and then Curry/Bogut get injured to give us around #10.
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Post#66 » by ADoaN17 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:24 am

I still like Jimmer but he just doesn't fit. This would be good for him.
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Post#67 » by OGSactownballer » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:14 am

Evans Is King wrote:Knowing our luck, Utah is offering the GS pick but the Maloofs say "hold on here, keep your pick, send us the cash!' :lol: :( :roll:


Funny funny!

The cash is to pay Watson when they cut him. Watson is not needed here he would just be sitting on the bench in a suit with a make believe injury.

This is a PERFECT deal. I really hope it goes down. We get back the lost pick inthetrade last year to replace the mistake made in that draft.

The only otherthingwould be to somehow dump Salmons.
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Post#68 » by City of Trees » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:55 am

OGSactownballer wrote:
Evans Is King wrote:Knowing our luck, Utah is offering the GS pick but the Maloofs say "hold on here, keep your pick, send us the cash!' :lol: :( :roll:


Funny funny!

The cash is to pay Watson when they cut him. Watson is not needed here he would just be sitting on the bench in a suit with a make believe injury.

This is a PERFECT dea
l. I really hope it goes down. We get back the lost pick inthetrade last year to replace the mistake made in that draft.

The only otherthingwould be to somehow dump Salmons.


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Post#69 » by bjax24 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:09 am

SMH. Y'all never seen a bad rookie year before? I swear our fan base for being in mediocrity for so many years still feels the need to act like it is one guys fault year after year. I remember when Kevin Martin was holding back Tyreke's developement. too. Let's give the guy another year before we say RIP to his career. Some very good players have had bad to terrible rookie seasons.
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Post#70 » by SacKingsPejaFan » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:33 pm

bjax24 wrote:SMH. Y'all never seen a bad rookie year before? I swear our fan base for being in mediocrity for so many years still feels the need to act like it is one guys fault year after year. I remember when Kevin Martin was holding back Tyreke's developement. too. Let's give the guy another year before we say RIP to his career. Some very good players have had bad to terrible rookie seasons.


I don't think many people are saying that. Saying they'd trade him for potentially a 7th pick next year is no knock on the guy's potential. It's basically an admission that our team is crowded at his position and if we could in essence get a re-do so we can grab someone at a position we need that high in next year's draft, we do it. I won't speak for everyone, but I don't think too many of us are naive enough to judge a guy based on a shortened season with no summer league, no training camp, and very few days off between games. Especially when the coach was misusing him constantly.

As the roster stands, Jimmer will likely be getting garbage minutes for two years until Brooks' contract is up. Are we really going to let a lottery pick rot on our bench like that for two years, or turn him into another lottery pick next year that can maybe fill our currently abysmal SF slot? That's where I suspect many people here are coming from. If not, I'm with you.
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Post#71 » by QuantumMacgyver » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:03 pm

SacKingsPejaFan wrote:
bjax24 wrote:SMH. Y'all never seen a bad rookie year before? I swear our fan base for being in mediocrity for so many years still feels the need to act like it is one guys fault year after year. I remember when Kevin Martin was holding back Tyreke's developement. too. Let's give the guy another year before we say RIP to his career. Some very good players have had bad to terrible rookie seasons.


I don't think many people are saying that. Saying they'd trade him for potentially a 7th pick next year is no knock on the guy's potential. It's basically an admission that our team is crowded at his position and if we could in essence get a re-do so we can grab someone at a position we need that high in next year's draft, we do it. I won't speak for everyone, but I don't think too many of us are naive enough to judge a guy based on a shortened season with no summer league, no training camp, and very few days off between games. Especially when the coach was misusing him constantly.

As the roster stands, Jimmer will likely be getting garbage minutes for two years until Brooks' contract is up. Are we really going to let a lottery pick rot on our bench like that for two years, or turn him into another lottery pick next year that can maybe fill our currently abysmal SF slot? That's where I suspect many people here are coming from. If not, I'm with you.


Just fair warning, if this trade happens don't expect the pick to be anywhere near 7. If the pick is anywhere close the Dubs will simply tank it back. Best case scenario is probably 14+. If the Dubs aren't a lock for the playoffs, they will no doubt tank to get the pick back. Still, #15 for Jimmer would be a good trade for you right now.
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Post#72 » by 408Kings » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:08 pm

QuantumMacgyver wrote:
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bjax24 wrote:SMH. Y'all never seen a bad rookie year before? I swear our fan base for being in mediocrity for so many years still feels the need to act like it is one guys fault year after year. I remember when Kevin Martin was holding back Tyreke's developement. too. Let's give the guy another year before we say RIP to his career. Some very good players have had bad to terrible rookie seasons.


I don't think many people are saying that. Saying they'd trade him for potentially a 7th pick next year is no knock on the guy's potential. It's basically an admission that our team is crowded at his position and if we could in essence get a re-do so we can grab someone at a position we need that high in next year's draft, we do it. I won't speak for everyone, but I don't think too many of us are naive enough to judge a guy based on a shortened season with no summer league, no training camp, and very few days off between games. Especially when the coach was misusing him constantly.

As the roster stands, Jimmer will likely be getting garbage minutes for two years until Brooks' contract is up. Are we really going to let a lottery pick rot on our bench like that for two years, or turn him into another lottery pick next year that can maybe fill our currently abysmal SF slot? That's where I suspect many people here are coming from. If not, I'm with you.


Just fair warning, if this trade happens don't expect the pick to be anywhere near 7. If the pick is anywhere close the Dubs will simply tank it back. Best case scenario is probably 14+. If the Dubs aren't a lock for the playoffs, they will no doubt tank to get the pick back. Still, #15 for Jimmer would be a good trade for you right now.


Seems to be fair market value for the Jimmer to me, since that's probably closer to the range he should have been drafted in anyways.

If we can get players of this caliber with that pick, I'd be pretty happy with that.

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Post#73 » by No-Man » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:31 am

Warriors pick is going to be somewere between 12 and 17, they're a really nice team right now.

But I'll do it, it's a nice pick anyway and Petrie does well with that kind of low picks.
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Post#74 » by aznkillabeezZz » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:52 pm

Jimmer is just a tyrke evans part two. A black hole. He dribbles the ball too much and makes his own shot, that is hit or miss. He is not a pg because he doesnt create for others; That's what i saw on the HL, and also on summer league.
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Post#75 » by pillwenney » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:20 pm

aznkillabeezZz wrote:Jimmer is just a tyrke evans part two. A black hole. He dribbles the ball too much and makes his own shot, that is hit or miss. He is not a pg because he doesnt create for others; That's what i saw on the HL, and also on summer league.


Yeah, a lot of this isn't really true--not that it matters, because Jimmer more or less blows regardless.
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Post#76 » by LovingCousins » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:14 am

bjax24 wrote:SMH. Y'all never seen a bad rookie year before? I swear our fan base for being in mediocrity for so many years still feels the need to act like it is one guys fault year after year. I remember when Kevin Martin was holding back Tyreke's developement. too. Let's give the guy another year before we say RIP to his career. Some very good players have had bad to terrible rookie seasons.


I'd agree with our fan base being impatient with Kevin Martin and Tyreke but Jimmer is really bad. With Tyreke and Kevin Martin, they are players who could play well but we wish they could do more. Jimmer is a player who will not be more than a 3rd string guard at best. If any other team can be tricked into taking him and giving back anything, I would be happy.
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Post#77 » by VeeJay24 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:49 pm

Fredette = JJ Redick with a much slower release

thank the Maloofs for this; if Petrie was left to make the decision we possibly could already have our SF of the future in Leonard

At this point the best Fredette can do to help this team is a long distance shooter play him at 2; run off screens or camp out behind the 3 pt. line.

problem with this is his release is so slow; a player can't fix everything in their game in one off season; it takes several what he should've been doing this off season is making his release quicker.

the Maloofs took JJ Redick with the 10th pick........WoW!!!!!
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Post#78 » by deNIEd » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:13 pm

VeeJay24 wrote:Fredette = JJ Redick with a much slower release

thank the Maloofs for this; if Petrie was left to make the decision we possibly could already have our SF of the future in Leonard

At this point the best Fredette can do to help this team is a long distance shooter play him at 2; run off screens or camp out behind the 3 pt. line.

problem with this is his release is so slow; a player can't fix everything in their game in one off season; it takes several what he should've been doing this off season is making his release quicker.

the Maloofs took JJ Redick with the 10th pick........WoW!!!!!


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Post#79 » by pillwenney » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:52 pm

I'm on the Jimmer-hate wagon as much as anyone, but it's way, way, way, way, way too soon for a lot of that, and a lot of isn't true--especially for this team.

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