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Will Tyreke get traded?

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Will Tyreke get traded?

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Re: Will Tyreke get traded? 

Post#81 » by ADoaN17 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:23 pm

Tyreke has actually had a good last few games. Maybe he is finally getting it together.
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Re: Will Tyreke get traded? 

Post#82 » by darkadun » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:20 pm

I like what I'm seeing from Reke this season. At this point I'd much rather trade DMC, he's driving me crazy. I'd be curious to see what we could get for him. I'd be curious if Boston would trade Rondo for Cuz. I think thats the perfect place for DMC, KG would put him in his place, there's no doubt. Rondo and Reke would be a great 1,2 combo.
Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
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Re: Will Tyreke get traded? 

Post#83 » by boogie-reke » Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:19 pm

You guys are just setting yourselves up getting bamboozled again by Tyreke.

Not that this is strictly his fault, although the vast majority is - but this franchise CANNOT develop talent.
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Re: Will Tyreke get traded? 

Post#84 » by boogie-reke » Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:24 pm

ADoaN17 wrote:Tyreke has actually had a good last few games. Maybe he is finally getting it together.


Congratulations, you're the 10,000th Kings poster to have said that exact line.

You win the award winning & best selling book "The Reke Who Cried Wolf", by T.Evans.
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Re: Will Tyreke get traded? 

Post#85 » by pillwenney » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:18 am

VeeJay24 wrote:
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pillwenney wrote:The shot will come in time? He's had 3+ years to work on it now, and he's made 0 progress. It may have taken others that long to become really great shooters, but you saw improvement year to year with them. Tyreke has not improved AT ALL.

And the problem with making him ball dominant is quite simply that he's not a very good decision-maker. I don't care who you are. If the guy who has the ball in your offense can't make good decisions, you will never have a good offense. It just won't happen with any remote consistency.



Tyreke hasn't been asked to improve. He's been asked to reinvent himself on the fly! Nobody asked Marcus Thornton to be a better ball handler or distributor. Nobody asked Jimmer to become a slasher or a guy who can finish at the rim. Nobody asked anything of Isaiah Thomas. Anything he's given is a bonus. So why is it we can ask Tyreke Evans to learn to play off the ball, or to shoot better, or to do everything but what he actually does and expect positive results?

Simply put nobody has asked Evans to improve on his skill set. They have asked him to learn a new one. That's 100% dumb planning.

Year 1 nobody cared he couldn't shoot.
Year 2 he was hurt
Year 3 was a short season/new coach/new roll

T/O to assist ratio for his career is 5.2/2.9...not too far off 2/1
By comparison he has a better Ast/TO ratio to Steve Nash through the same time period in their careers with a better FG% Reke is better at this stage in his development to Chancey Billups as well. Billups was a 2 and done. Nash went to school all four years.

Yes he's NBA dumb. DMC is the epitome of NBA dumb as well. When they become smarter players they will become better ones. Handicapping the learning curve by taking what is special about Reke Evans away just makes the curve slower and longer.


Well said and I will go even further; there is no way in hell that this team should be going through Cousins late in games or for any crucial possession. He takes bad shots especially for a big man; his post game is horrible and he turns the ball over. He is just not close to being ready to be the focal point of a team's offense. Reke with the ball in his hands is the best chance for this team to win. Especially late in games; he can get open shots for others, get a shot for himself and he's a better free throw shooter.

A lot of what ails this teams is that it is leaning on a guy that is not ready to be leaned on. They are trying to let Cousins be the man but he is not ready to be the man especially in the post.


I'm not going to argue that Cuz in the closing moments is a great option, but good God, Reke has so often been horrible in the closing minutes of games. So often he holds onto it too long, only to take a jumper that he doesn't make. And when he drives it's often disastrously into traffic.
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Re: Will Tyreke get traded? 

Post#86 » by SacKingZZZ » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:00 am

We've seen Cousins come through in the clutch, and Tyreke as well. End of game moments is when you need to rely on your system and teammates the most and without it, it's a waste of time to throw stones. If you're looking for clutch, Aaron Brooks and Thornton are good options.

Cousins has the talent to be the man now, but much like Tyreke, he's battling against a system that doesn't provide any help to it's stars other than leaving them on an island by themselves in isolation. Give the ball to Cousins at the left or right high post and then watch everyone stand around. What kind of playset is that? Give Reke the ball up top and watch Jason Thomspon down low clogging the paint. Yeah, that surely helps Tyreke get to the rim....not!

Cousins needs to mature but since he's been here, first under Westphal and now under Smart, I've yet to see a consistent usage of plays that gives this teams best players space and passing options. They are starting to use Hayes for his passing and Cuz is getting more assists lately but it has a long ways to go. This team will live and die by it's ability to get assists out of it's best player which is a conversation that could be dissected further into how personnel and play calls effect that in every way.

Next time Cousins has the ball up top, watch the rest of the team if Smart goes with the same iso playset we've seen since Westphal was here.
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Re: Will Tyreke get traded? 

Post#87 » by ADoaN17 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:37 am

Stock rising! If he keeps playing like this he could land the Kings something good but why trade him if he plays well.
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Re: Will Tyreke get traded? 

Post#88 » by VeeJay24 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:29 pm

SacKingZZZ wrote:We've seen Cousins come through in the clutch, and Tyreke as well. End of game moments is when you need to rely on your system and teammates the most and without it, it's a waste of time to throw stones. If you're looking for clutch, Aaron Brooks and Thornton are good options.

Cousins has the talent to be the man now, but much like Tyreke, he's battling against a system that doesn't provide any help to it's stars other than leaving them on an island by themselves in isolation. Give the ball to Cousins at the left or right high post and then watch everyone stand around. What kind of playset is that? Give Reke the ball up top and watch Jason Thomspon down low clogging the paint. Yeah, that surely helps Tyreke get to the rim....not!

Cousins needs to mature but since he's been here, first under Westphal and now under Smart, I've yet to see a consistent usage of plays that gives this teams best players space and passing options. They are starting to use Hayes for his passing and Cuz is getting more assists lately but it has a long ways to go. This team will live and die by it's ability to get assists out of it's best player which is a conversation that could be dissected further into how personnel and play calls effect that in every way.

Next time Cousins has the ball up top, watch the rest of the team if Smart goes with the same iso playset we've seen since Westphal was here.


Cousins doesn't have the mental stability or post game to be the go to man; once again it shows in the game last night. If Smart just likes the fact that he can say Reke is the 2 guard fine but the ball needs to be in his hands more often than not and since Brooks, Thornton & Fredette are more consistent shooters than Thomas they should be beside him more often. What happened last night is what can happen every night. If the coach, GM and everybody else stop trying to make Reke into something he's not let him perfect his strengths and then improve in his other areas of weakness; weaknesses that can be coached. In other words; let the man play his game damnit! He has put in the work with his shot it has improve; at this point it all about confidence.

The last 4 games he has had the ball in his hands and the offense looks much better. Look at the results on the court. I've said it before and I'll say it again the Kings will regret it if they trade Reke!!!!
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Re: Will Tyreke get traded? 

Post#89 » by Cruel_Ruin » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:13 pm

ADoaN17 wrote:Stock rising! If he keeps playing like this he could land the Kings something good but why trade him if he plays well.


Tyreke was never going to be traded. Especially not now that he's playing like he should
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Re: Will Tyreke get traded? 

Post#90 » by ICMTM » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:03 am

pillwenney wrote:
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pillwenney wrote:The shot will come in time? He's had 3+ years to work on it now, and he's made 0 progress. It may have taken others that long to become really great shooters, but you saw improvement year to year with them. Tyreke has not improved AT ALL.

And the problem with making him ball dominant is quite simply that he's not a very good decision-maker. I don't care who you are. If the guy who has the ball in your offense can't make good decisions, you will never have a good offense. It just won't happen with any remote consistency.



Tyreke hasn't been asked to improve. He's been asked to reinvent himself on the fly! Nobody asked Marcus Thornton to be a better ball handler or distributor. Nobody asked Jimmer to become a slasher or a guy who can finish at the rim. Nobody asked anything of Isaiah Thomas. Anything he's given is a bonus. So why is it we can ask Tyreke Evans to learn to play off the ball, or to shoot better, or to do everything but what he actually does and expect positive results?

Simply put nobody has asked Evans to improve on his skill set. They have asked him to learn a new one. That's 100% dumb planning.

Year 1 nobody cared he couldn't shoot.
Year 2 he was hurt
Year 3 was a short season/new coach/new roll

T/O to assist ratio for his career is 5.2/2.9...not too far off 2/1
By comparison he has a better Ast/TO ratio to Steve Nash through the same time period in their careers with a better FG% Reke is better at this stage in his development to Chancey Billups as well. Billups was a 2 and done. Nash went to school all four years.

Yes he's NBA dumb. DMC is the epitome of NBA dumb as well. When they become smarter players they will become better ones. Handicapping the learning curve by taking what is special about Reke Evans away just makes the curve slower and longer.


Being asked to improve your jump shot is being asked to improve. He's being asked to improve that because defenses are playing way off of him and waiting for him to drive. His lack of a jumper impedes his ability to drive successfully. It's all connected. Pretty simple stuff.

The reason others aren't asked to improve is that others are what they are. Thornton is a scorer in his current vein and he can contribute successfully like that. But if we're going to let Tyreke be ball dominant, and he doesn't become a better playmaker, our team will lose over and over. Tyreke is taking the burden of a star because that's what he was supposed to be for us.

Comparing him to random guys that were specifically late bloomers is to assume that Tyreke is a late bloomer. Yeah, maybe it'll click later. But the Chauncey Billups' of the world are extremely rare. The fact of the matter is he is way behind where most star guards were at at this point in their careers.

And nobody suggested making Reke a full time off the ball player. This is all about making him a more complete basketball player. He has failed to become that so far.


Billups went 3rd overall dude...do you just make this stuff up as you go along? Billups was a bust and caught on late. The point is Reke ais where he is supposed to be in his development.

Funny the difference a week makes. Reke has been on the ball more and look...we are competitive.
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Re: Will Tyreke get traded? 

Post#91 » by KF10 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:58 am

Over the last four games, Evans has averaged 21.3 points – up from 11.6 points over the previous nine contests – to go along with 5.0 rebounds, 4.5 assists and 1.3 steals.


Scoring with exceptional efficiency, the Memphis product has shot 52.5 percent from the field and 91.3 percent from the foul line during the timeframe. According to NBA.com/stats, Evans has not only made 65.5 percent of his attempts in the restricted area, but 66.7 percent from 15-19 feet.


“One thing I’ve been impressed with (is that) he’s been able to defend guys on the low box and on the mid area and not get fouls called.”


Evans says he’s focused on forcing shooters out of their comfort zones by making them drive or put up low-percentage jumpers.


“It’s like a challenge … to go out there and play defense and try to be aggressive still on offense,” he said. “(The keys have been) reading the defense, just trying to be creative out there and take what they give me … (I’m) trying to be at the right spots at the right time.”


http://thekingsblog.com/2012/11/evans-finds-his-groove/

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