Thank you Jimmer.

[ICMTM]

I feel had Thornton had a better attitude he would have played more. He didn't play defense and his pouting when he didn't get touched got old. Thornton is flat out better than Fredette.

I think he was absolute garbage, and if he was not on a multi year deal at a high rate he would have barely played after awhile.

So no, IMO he did not earn his minutes.

Who should have replaced him? Well not sure it would depend on many things, but certainly at least a portion of those mins could have been better filled with Jimmer when matchups were considered.

If he is Thornton you make little sense. He didn't play often until Vasquez was traded, and really the team is void of guards. They had no choice but to play he and Jimmer. Thornton had trade value. The Kings couldn't get anything for Jimmer. Considering they both are guards who aren't PG's why didn't the Nets trade for Jimmer? He sucks!

He is a nice role model. He is what the league wants its athletes to be like. He just does not have the same skills as others in the league who play his position. Proof is he's not currently on an NBA roster.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10525 ... ources-say

There are some teams who are showing 'some' interest....

[SacTown Kings]

I think you are overlooking the fact that jimmer was going to be a free agent. No team really wants to give anything up for a half year rental especially when they can sign him cheap in the offseason. Jimmer played better than Thornton.

[Sparky6string]

I will say you're flat out wrong. McLemore is better in his rookie season than Jimmer was at an older age.

You can say whatever you want but McLemore has thus far been given more minutes than Jimmer in his rookie year and he already has 23 more starts than Jimmer did yet his FG% is lower than Jimmers, his 3pt FG% is lower, his PER is lower, APG is lower, etc. McLemore has been given more opportunity and played worse. Jimmer meanwhile has increased his numbers and skills every year.

I hope he does work out actually, especially since the Kings have so much tied into him.

Yet Jimmer can't do anything other than shoot the basketball. Jimmer was drafted to sell tickets. You're high to think he projected better than Klay Thompson or Kawahi Leonard. In fact Leonard was kind of to consensus guy most people wanted around here.

Yes I can say whatever I want (within the rules) but being the loudest doesn't make you right. The reason why Jimmer didn't get minutes and has yet to find a team is because he's regarded as not good.

I never made the claims you're saying I did and , er, you're the one being loud while I provided stats backing my claim.

Another thing is Jimmer was not thought of highly in his draft and arguably went too high, while McLemore was actually considered as the first overall pick by some experts, and teams were surprised he fell so far. He has more to prove, and better get to it.

[I beg to differ]

Almost officially a Chicago Bull. They cover well for bad defenders (Boozer, Korver, Dunleavy, Nate Robinson, DJ Augustin, etc.) Good place for him if he manages to stick around. The Bulls are also extremely low on actual NBA players right now.

[KF10]

Almost officially a Chicago Bull. They cover well for bad defenders (Boozer, Korver, Dunleavy, Nate Robinson, DJ Augustin, etc.) Good place for him if he manages to stick around. The Bulls are also extremely low on actual NBA players right now.

I hope he lights it up in Chicago.

Very exciting player when he's on his game.

[ICMTM]

You can say whatever you want but McLemore has thus far been given more minutes than Jimmer in his rookie year and he already has 23 more starts than Jimmer did yet his FG% is lower than Jimmers, his 3pt FG% is lower, his PER is lower, APG is lower, etc. McLemore has been given more opportunity and played worse. Jimmer meanwhile has increased his numbers and skills every year.

I hope he does work out actually, especially since the Kings have so much tied into him.

Yet Jimmer can't do anything other than shoot the basketball. Jimmer was drafted to sell tickets. You're high to think he projected better than Klay Thompson or Kawahi Leonard. In fact Leonard was kind of to consensus guy most people wanted around here.

Yes I can say whatever I want (within the rules) but being the loudest doesn't make you right. The reason why Jimmer didn't get minutes and has yet to find a team is because he's regarded as not good.

I never made the claims you're saying I did and , er, you're the one being loud while I provided stats backing my claim.

Another thing is Jimmer was not thought of highly in his draft and arguably went too high, while McLemore was actually considered as the first overall pick by some experts, and teams were surprised he fell so far. He has more to prove, and better get to it.

Your stats aren't even apples to apples, and I didn't put any words in your mouth. Calm down.

[ICMTM]

I think you are overlooking the fact that jimmer was going to be a free agent. No team really wants to give anything up for a half year rental especially when they can sign him cheap in the offseason. Jimmer played better than Thornton.

This is why we're a losing franchise. Splitting the hairs of who actually played better between the two is a waste of time. Neither related to wins. Neither defended well. Neither had a high execution rate.

I'm glad Fredette is gone. He's a journeyman at best in the league.

[enderwilson]

This is why we're a losing franchise. Splitting the hairs of who actually played better between the two is a waste of time. Neither related to wins. Neither defended well. Neither had a high execution rate.

I'm glad Fredette is gone. He's a journeyman at best in the league.

With all due respect, I seriously doubt that even the Maloofs came to this board for advice on running the Kings.

[Big_Cat]

I think you are overlooking the fact that jimmer was going to be a free agent. No team really wants to give anything up for a half year rental especially when they can sign him cheap in the offseason. Jimmer played better than Thornton.

This is why we're a losing franchise. Splitting the hairs of who actually played better between the two is a waste of time. Neither related to wins. Neither defended well. Neither had a high execution rate.

I'm glad Fredette is gone. He's a journeyman at best in the league.

Look at how everyone on these boards have viewed essentially every player since the Bibby/Miller era.

Every single draft pick. Every single 2nd round scrub. Every single player we acquire in a trade or sign as a free agent...people here get stoked beyond belief over. Brockman, Whiteside, Douby, Jimmer, Robinson, etc. etc. all had tremendous optimism surrounding them.

Being optimistic is fine, but being blinded by an idiotic/homer-esqe faith that all of our players will amount to something is simply counter productive. At some point we need to simply realize we don't have talent on this roster. We need to stop thinking that all of our players will amount to their upmost potential and instead recognize the reality of the situation and plan and readjust accordingly.

[ICMTM]

I think you are overlooking the fact that jimmer was going to be a free agent. No team really wants to give anything up for a half year rental especially when they can sign him cheap in the offseason. Jimmer played better than Thornton.

This is why we're a losing franchise. Splitting the hairs of who actually played better between the two is a waste of time. Neither related to wins. Neither defended well. Neither had a high execution rate.

I'm glad Fredette is gone. He's a journeyman at best in the league.

Look at how everyone on these boards have viewed essentially every player since the Bibby/Miller era.

Every single draft pick. Every single 2nd round scrub. Every single player we acquire in a trade or sign as a free agent...people here get stoked beyond belief over. Brockman, Whiteside, Douby, Jimmer, Robinson, etc. etc. all had tremendous optimism surrounding them.

Being optimistic is fine, but being blinded by an idiotic/homer-esqe faith that all of our players will amount to something is simply counter productive. At some point we need to simply realize we don't have talent on this roster. We need to stop thinking that all of our players will amount to their upmost potential and instead recognize the reality of the situation and plan and readjust accordingly.

You quoted me, but you seem to be in agreement with me?

I do think Thornton and BMac are better NBA players than Jimmer Fredette, but I don't think it's worth three pages of going back and forth over. We're arguing over which ineffective piece is better. If you feel either guy (Thornton of Fredette) was an answer you're just wrong. The fact we continue to discuss these types of players is a bad sign.

[Big_Cat]

You quoted me, but you seem to be in agreement with me?

I do think Thornton and BMac are better NBA players than Jimmer Fredette, but I don't think it's worth three pages of going back and forth over. We're arguing over which ineffective piece is better. If you feel either guy (Thornton of Fredette) was an answer you're just wrong. The fact we continue to discuss these types of players is a bad sign.

I agree with you. For the most part, most people on this board grabs and clings onto every single player as if they are the answer to why we're a bottom team. At some point everyone needs to wake up and realize we don't have that much talent on this roster, and the likes of Thornton or Jimmer were never going to do anything to help push this team into a .500 roster.

[likenom]

Jimmer in a nutshell: not athletic enough for PG, not big enough for SG, which hurts him on both ends of the court. He also lacks the some skills for both positions, like ball handling, which makes him easy to defend (all you need is a little pressure). That's something he can improve on though. He's 100% professional, works hard, and seems to be easy to get along with. Has a nice shot. Some his fans are wacko.

He has a place in the NBA, but a limited one. I wish him the best.

Mark Jackson was a point guard. Very athletic still, but used his craft more so.