Game 63: Sacramento Kings (25-37) @ Denver Nuggets (28-34) - 9:00 PM ET

[benchmobbin02]

3 straight losses and this tank is starting to get cocky!

[LightTheBeam]

Skal looks like by far our best player going forward. I love the fit between he and wcs, the offensive rebounds, put backs, being super athletic.

I just don't know how much longer I can stomach watching Koufos/tolliver/afflalo/evans log big minutes.

Not sure what happened to Mclemore? He had a few good showings and then all of a sudden he's not getting minutes or shots. I'd rather give him the opportunity than afflalo or even evans. At this point knowing afflalo for sure won't be back, I'd rather see him ride the bench full time.

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[RIPskaterdude]

3 straight losses and this tank is starting to get cocky!

5*

[benchmobbin02]

3 straight losses and this tank is starting to get cocky!

5*

True dat!





But it's not about the # but about the streak!



Keep'em comin...

[KingsMilz]

Stop playing Tolliver over Skal for the love of god!

[benchmobbin02]

We need them both. Tolliver has just had a few down games of late. Both will should around 20mins a game going forward IMO.

[SacKingZZZ]

Stop playing Tolliver over Skal for the love of god!

I think playing Koufos and Tolliver is fine, but playing them together for long stretches with one of Skal and Willie on the bench doesn't do much for the immediate or long term future of the team.

I really want to see Hield slotted into that starting SG spot because I think he would really benefit from playing with Koufos more.

[KingsMilz]

Stop playing Tolliver over Skal for the love of god!

I think playing Koufos and Tolliver is fine, but playing them together for long stretches with one of Skal and Willie on the bench doesn't do much for the immediate or long term future of the team.

I really want to see Hield slotted into that starting SG spot because I think he would really benefit from playing with Koufos more.

I just really want to see more of Skal/WCS together tbh

[benchmobbin02]

Stop playing Tolliver over Skal for the love of god!

I think playing Koufos and Tolliver is fine, but playing them together for long stretches with one of Skal and Willie on the bench doesn't do much for the immediate or long term future of the team.

I really want to see Hield slotted into that starting SG spot because I think he would really benefit from playing with Koufos more.

I see what your saying about playing with KK but Hield isn't ready to start. Offense stops too much with him and he doesn't do enough when asked to create.

My personal opinion is Hield may be better as a 6th man/first guy off the bench/combo guard. I don't see all the skills there yet. Needs to get better off the dribble but I can see us working with him and developing that.

Right now he is a catch and shoot guy with a little wiggle to the basket ability but too many turnovers and unforced errors on kick outs and finish opportunities.

[City of Trees]

Stop playing Tolliver over Skal for the love of god!

I think playing Koufos and Tolliver is fine, but playing them together for long stretches with one of Skal and Willie on the bench doesn't do much for the immediate or long term future of the team.

I really want to see Hield slotted into that starting SG spot because I think he would really benefit from playing with Koufos more.

I see what your saying about playing with KK but Hield isn't ready to start. Offense stops too much with him and he doesn't do enough when asked to create.

My personal opinion is Hield may be better as a 6th man/first guy off the bench/combo guard. I don't see all the skills there yet. Needs to get better off the dribble but I can see us working with him and developing that.

Right now he is a catch and shoot guy with a little wiggle to the basket ability but too many turnovers and unforced errors on kick outs and finish opportunities.

IMO Bogdonavic has a real chance at grabbing the starting spot next season. It all depends on how well his game/athleticism transfers over to the NBA.

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[benchmobbin02]

I think playing Koufos and Tolliver is fine, but playing them together for long stretches with one of Skal and Willie on the bench doesn't do much for the immediate or long term future of the team.

I really want to see Hield slotted into that starting SG spot because I think he would really benefit from playing with Koufos more.

I see what your saying about playing with KK but Hield isn't ready to start. Offense stops too much with him and he doesn't do enough when asked to create.

My personal opinion is Hield may be better as a 6th man/first guy off the bench/combo guard. I don't see all the skills there yet. Needs to get better off the dribble but I can see us working with him and developing that.

Right now he is a catch and shoot guy with a little wiggle to the basket ability but too many turnovers and unforced errors on kick outs and finish opportunities.

IMO Bogdonavic has a real chance at grabbing the starting spot next season. It all depends on how well his game/athleticism transfers over to the NBA.

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I agree. If Malachi can get healthy and put some solid mins together in the last month here we could see a real battle for that spot in the off season. I think you get the best results when a spot is won.

[Lost in LA]

I think playing Koufos and Tolliver is fine, but playing them together for long stretches with one of Skal and Willie on the bench doesn't do much for the immediate or long term future of the team.

I really want to see Hield slotted into that starting SG spot because I think he would really benefit from playing with Koufos more.

I see what your saying about playing with KK but Hield isn't ready to start. Offense stops too much with him and he doesn't do enough when asked to create.

My personal opinion is Hield may be better as a 6th man/first guy off the bench/combo guard. I don't see all the skills there yet. Needs to get better off the dribble but I can see us working with him and developing that.

Right now he is a catch and shoot guy with a little wiggle to the basket ability but too many turnovers and unforced errors on kick outs and finish opportunities.

IMO Bogdonavic has a real chance at grabbing the starting spot next season. It all depends on how well his game/athleticism transfers over to the NBA.

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Is he coming for certain?

[benchmobbin02]

I see what your saying about playing with KK but Hield isn't ready to start. Offense stops too much with him and he doesn't do enough when asked to create.

My personal opinion is Hield may be better as a 6th man/first guy off the bench/combo guard. I don't see all the skills there yet. Needs to get better off the dribble but I can see us working with him and developing that.

Right now he is a catch and shoot guy with a little wiggle to the basket ability but too many turnovers and unforced errors on kick outs and finish opportunities.

IMO Bogdonavic has a real chance at grabbing the starting spot next season. It all depends on how well his game/athleticism transfers over to the NBA.

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Is he coming for certain?

From everything that has been said we have to assume that it depends on the contract offered. I can't see Vlade lowballing him so he should be here.

[SacKingZZZ]

Stop playing Tolliver over Skal for the love of god!

I think playing Koufos and Tolliver is fine, but playing them together for long stretches with one of Skal and Willie on the bench doesn't do much for the immediate or long term future of the team.

I really want to see Hield slotted into that starting SG spot because I think he would really benefit from playing with Koufos more.

I see what your saying about playing with KK but Hield isn't ready to start. Offense stops too much with him and he doesn't do enough when asked to create.

My personal opinion is Hield may be better as a 6th man/first guy off the bench/combo guard. I don't see all the skills there yet. Needs to get better off the dribble but I can see us working with him and developing that.

Right now he is a catch and shoot guy with a little wiggle to the basket ability but too many turnovers and unforced errors on kick outs and finish opportunities.

This isn't an 18 year old rookie. This is a 4 year guy. If he were super raw, and super young then that would be another thing. With Skal you can see he's not physically ready even though it's not hurting him too much honestly. In the end it's a game. The negative with older rookies is you only have so much time before they are set in stone. I say the more minutes, the better the competition, and the more chances to learn in heated in game situations the better both he and the Kings will be. The problem with rebuilding so late in the rookie years of players is you have essentially transitioned their rookie years to the 2nd year of their contract. For a team with no guaranteed player to build around you'll need all the time you have if for nothing more than to potentially create an asset to move later so you don't end up with a Ben McLemore situation.

I would think Dave Joerger will end the season no different than any other coach leading a rebuild who is still giving his veterans a chance to succeed in the interim, at least I hope, and he'll eventually turn the reigns over to the young guys when the playoffs are way back in the rear view mirror. We'll see.

[SacSanity]

If anything, WCS should play with Tol and KK should play with Skal. Playing KK and WCS together is worse than watching KK and Cuz play together.

[SacKingZZZ]

If anything, WCS should play with Tol and KK should play with Skal. Playing KK and WCS together is worse than watching KK and Cuz play together.

Which is perhaps another example of Dave Joerger's ninja tank ability. After the trade he acknowledged that KK and Willie weren't a great fit and wouldn't play much together. And yet, here they are starting.

[benchmobbin02]

I think playing Koufos and Tolliver is fine, but playing them together for long stretches with one of Skal and Willie on the bench doesn't do much for the immediate or long term future of the team.

I really want to see Hield slotted into that starting SG spot because I think he would really benefit from playing with Koufos more.

I see what your saying about playing with KK but Hield isn't ready to start. Offense stops too much with him and he doesn't do enough when asked to create.

My personal opinion is Hield may be better as a 6th man/first guy off the bench/combo guard. I don't see all the skills there yet. Needs to get better off the dribble but I can see us working with him and developing that.

Right now he is a catch and shoot guy with a little wiggle to the basket ability but too many turnovers and unforced errors on kick outs and finish opportunities.

This isn't an 18 year old rookie. This is a 4 year guy. If he were super raw, and super young then that would be another thing. With Skal you can see he's not physically ready even though it's not hurting him too much honestly. In the end it's a game. The negative with older rookies is you only have so much time before they are set in stone. I say the more minutes, the better the competition, and the more chances to learn in heated in game situations the better both he and the Kings will be. The problem with rebuilding so late in the rookie years of players is you have essentially transitioned their rookie years to the 2nd year of their contract. For a team with no guaranteed player to build around you'll need all the time you have if for nothing more than to potentially create an asset to move later so you don't end up with a Ben McLemore situation.

I would think Dave Joerger will end the season no different than any other coach leading a rebuild who is still giving his veterans a chance to succeed in the interim, at least I hope, and he'll eventually turn the reigns over to the young guys when the playoffs are way back in the rear view mirror. We'll see.

I can see all that but watching him play you can see he isn't at all ready to start. If you want to throw him to the wolves then that's on you. I doubt Dave will do that til maybe April after he has slow built up his mins, skill, knowledge in how he needs to play in the system and confidence.

[SacSanity]

If anything, WCS should play with Tol and KK should play with Skal. Playing KK and WCS together is worse than watching KK and Cuz play together.

Which is perhaps another example of Dave Joerger's ninja tank ability. After the trade he acknowledged that KK and Willie weren't a great fit and wouldn't play much together. And yet, here they are starting.

Hahahah, better than watching Tyrone Corbin handle the tank!

[benchmobbin02]

If anything, WCS should play with Tol and KK should play with Skal. Playing KK and WCS together is worse than watching KK and Cuz play together.

Which is perhaps another example of Dave Joerger's ninja tank ability. After the trade he acknowledged that KK and Willie weren't a great fit and wouldn't play much together. And yet, here they are starting.

That's a good story but it's probably not true. Just look back at the past 5 games. I believe this is when he starts being more flexible with minute and lineup. I think he is taking into account matchup and hot hand much more in deciding the starting lineup.

Before those games his starting front court was KK and Tolliver. This was the front court vs the Hornets but look at the matchup.

KK and Tolliver vs Kamisky and Marvin Williams.

Then Minnesota - WCS and KK vs Dieng and KAT

Then Brooklyn - KK and Skal vs Lopez and Levert

Then Utah - KK and WCS vs Gobert and Favors

Then last game Den - KK and WCS vs Plumlee and Chandler