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Mock Offseason

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Grade My Kings Offseason

A
2
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C
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F
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Mock Offseason 

Post#1 » by kalenclayton » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:05 pm

Hey Guys,

We just finished our Mock-Offseason on the T&T-Games Board. It was organized by sportscrazy (the man, the myth, the legend), who took on the overwhelming role of commissioner. We had 30 users, each controlling a different team. I lucked out and got our beloved Sacramento Kings. We were tasked with being the GM of a team and staying true to their vision while trying to be as realistic as possible. While most teams stayed realistic, some went a little crazy with transactions and moved a few too many. Overall, it was extremely fun and I think I did a good job with our team. Take a look and let me know how I did. For all of the other offseasons (users still updating), take a look here: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1577699

Please grade my offseason and let me know how I did. What would you've done differently? How realistic was my offseason?

Sacramento Kings

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Offseason Summary
We went into this offseason embracing the identity of a rebuilding team. We had a lot of young talent on the squad, but needed to infuse the team with even more talent and future assets. Entering the draft, we had a ton of cap space but we knew that we wouldn't be chasing free agents. Taking on salary via trade became the goal of the offseason, but with the incoming salary, we would demand assets. We had an early decision to make with Anthony Tolliver and we guaranteed his contract for the year. We value his leadership. We also renounced the rights to Tyreke Evans as we did not see a future with him.

The draft came along and lasted a VERY lengthy time (71 pages; started May 18 and ended May 26). The Kings started the draft with picks 5, 10, and 34. The fifth pick (De'Aaron Fox) was a very easy pick, as he was exactly who we were targeting. This was the perfect 5th pick in our eyes.

The tenth pick was a lot harder. After a long period of deliberation and trade discussions, we decided against drafting Lauri Markkanen and OG Anunoby and traded down. We had our eyes on Anunoby, hoping that he would drop to 14, but he was ultimately selected at 13. When we dropped four spots, we picked up the 28th pick, as well as, Jordan Clarkson and a future 2nd rounder. We also had to take on the salary of Josh McRoberts in the trade. We had to renounce the cap hold on Rudy Gay at this moment to allow for the trade. We felt like this was a fantastic deal for our franchise and needed to take it. With the 14th pick, we selected Justin Jackson (North Carolina) whom we thought was a fantastic addition. Not only is he NBA ready, but he filled a slot that we needed to fill. We think he has the potential to be our SF of the future, but we are also being realistic in knowing that it is a gamble.

While time went by in the draft, the Brooklyn Nets contacted us about trading up. They needed to clear some cap space for the summer and we discussed a trade. We took on the expiring contract of Trevor Booker in order to move up seven spots from #34 to #27. This hurt a bit of our flexibility for the offseason, but ultimately, it gave us the opportunity to get the guy we really wanted. Armed we two more first round picks, we selected Rodions Kurucs at #27 and Jordan Bell at #28. This made the team ecstatic, as we got 2 more of our top 10 targets. We didn't think either player would be available at #34, so we were extremely excited to move up to get both of them! We tried to make a few more moves during the 2nd round, but ultimately found that we were better off standing pat. We waived Arron Afflalo by the end of the night in a salary cap move (guaranteeing him only $1.5 million).

Free Agency rolled around and we had some decisions to make. We discussed trades during free agency and tried to take on more salary for future assets. None of the trades materialized and we were left with a decision of whether or not to sign Darren Collison. We valued him a lot and wanted to bring him back, but we wanted to wait for more trade proposals. Unfortunately, he received a decent offer from the Knicks and we had to act fast. We ended up offering him a 2-year $24million contract with the second year being a player option. We really liked his fit with the team and his leadership qualities with the young guys. This signing dried up a lot of our cap space, so we decided it was time to sign Bogdan Bogdanovic. We offered him a 4-year $30million contract and he accepted. We were so excited to finally bring him over to be a big future piece to our rebuild.

In order to free up roster space for our four rookies, we had to make a few decisions. We asked Rodions Kurucs to stay in Barcelona to keep developing and he agreed to do so. Then we waived Josh McRoberts and Langston Galloway. We then set out to fill our 2-way roster spots and we signed Isaiah Cousins (2016 #60 pick) and Chris Boucher to 2-year contracts. We thought we were done with free agency, but saw that one our only targets hadn't even received an offer. We wanted Shabazz Muhammad greatly at the start of free agency, but thought he would be far out of our price range. We were baffled at this and decided to reach out on the last day of free agency. We asked Shabazz to sign with us for our remaining cap space ($1,290,363) with a player option in the second year. He accepted and we had a party! In order to make room for him, we waived Trevor Booker.

This offseason was a tremendous success for our front office. Not only did we achieve our goals of infusing our roster with youth, but we also preserved future flexibility in a huge way. We should have a ton of cap space next season along with a high pick in the draft. Our team may be ready to compete by 2019 and will have a ton of flexibility in the meantime.


Depth Chart at Start of the Season
italicized = new addition
() = two-way contract

PG: Darren Collison --- De'Aaron Fox --- Jordan Clarkson --- (Isaiah Cousins)
SG: Buddy Hield --- Bogdan Bogdanovic --- Malachi Richardson
SF: Garrett Temple --- Shabazz Muhammad --- Justin Jackson
PF: Skal Labissiere --- Anthony Tolliver --- Jordan Bell --- (Chris Boucher)
C: Willie Cauley-Stein --- Kosta Koufos --- Georgios Papagiannis


Transaction Activity:

TRADES (2)
1. 3-team trade: MIA-OKC-SAC (July 1st)
MIA out: #14, Tyler Johnson, and Josh McRoberts July 1
MIA in: #10

OKC out: 2019 Miami 2nd, Jordan Clarkson, and #28
OKC in: Tyler Johnson

SAC out: #10
SAC in: #14, #28, Clarkson, 2019 Miami 2nd, and Josh McRoberts

2. BKN-SAC (July 1st)
SAC in: Trevor Booker and #27
BKN in: #34

SIGNINGS and OTHER TRANSACTIONS
Waived Arron Afflalo
Waived Josh McRoberts
Agreed to have Rodions Kurucs stay in Barcelona
Waived Langston Galloway
Signed Bogdan Bogdanovic to a 4-year base pay $30 million deal
Signed Darren Collison to a 2-year base pay $24 million deal (2nd year PO)
Signed Isaiah Cousins to a 2-year two-way contract
Signed Chris Boucher to a 2-year two-way contract
Waived Trevor Booker
Signed Shabazz Muhammad to a 2-year ~$2.6 Million contract (2nd year PO)


Draft Results:

Pick 5: De'Aaron Fox (PG - University of Kentucky)
Pick 14: Justin Jackson (SF - University of North Carolina)
Pick 27: Rodions Kurucs (SF - Barcelona 2) (STASHED)
Pick 28: Jordan Bell (PF - University of Oregon)


Future Draft Picks:
2018: SAC 1st; SAC 2nd [More favorable of SAC and POR then other to DEN (via SAC swap for POR)]
2019: MIA 2nd (via CHA and OKC); SAC or MIL 2nd [Less favorable of SAC and MIL then other to PHL (via PHL swap of MIL for SAC (via BRK))]
2020: SAC 1st; SAC 2nd; DET 2nd (via PHX)
2021: SAC 1st; SAC 2nd
2022: SAC 1st; SAC 2nd
2023: SAC 1st; SAC 2nd
2024: SAC 1st; SAC 2nd

Player Rights Held:
Rodions Kurucs (Stashed)
Luka Mitrovic
Arturas Gudaitis
Dejan Bodiroga
Alex Oriakhi


Team Salary (17-18)
Spoiler:
Team Option
Player Option

PG
Darren Collison - 2 Years ($12,000,000; $12,000,000)
De'Aaron Fox - 2 Years ($4,609,200; $5,470,920; $6,392,760; $8,099,627)
Jordan Clarkson - 3 Years ($11,562,500; $12,500,000; $13,437,500)
(Isaiah Cousins - 2 Years - Two-Way Contract @ No Cap Hold)
PG 17-18 Salary = $28,171,700

SG
Buddy Hield - 1 Year ($3,675,480; $3,833,760; $4,861,208)
Bogdan Bogdanovic - 4 years ($7,500,000; $7,500,000; $7,500,000; $7,500,000)
Garrett Temple - 2 Years ($8,000,000; $8,000,000)
Malachi Richardson - 1 Year ($1,504,560; $1,569,360; $2,581,597)
SG 17-18 Salary = $20,680,040

SF
Justin Jackson 2 Years ($2,490,360; $2,955,840; $3,454,080; $5,115,492)
Shabazz Muhammad - 2 Year ($1,290,363, $1,348,429
SF 17-18 Salary = $3,780,723

PF
Skal Labissiere - 1 Year ($1,242,240; $1,295,760; $2,338,847)
Anthony Tolliver - 1 Year ($8,000,000)
Jordan Bell - 2 Years ($1,414,920; $1,679,520; $1,962,360; $3,542,060
(Chris Boucher - 2 Years - Two-Way Contract @ No Cap Hold)
PF 17-18 Salary = $10,657,160

C
Willie Cauley-Stein - 1 Year ($3,704,160; $4,696,875)
Kosta Koufos - 2 Years ($8,393,000; $8,739,500)
Georgios Papagiannis - 1 Year ($2,301,360; $2,400,480; $3,430,286)
C 17-18 Salary = $14,388,520

Cap Holds:
Rudy Gay ($20,000,000) RENOUNCED
Tyreke Evans ($15,305,633) RENOUNCED
Ben McLemore ($10,022,205 --- $5,375,911 QO) (QO Pulled) RENOUNCED
Darren Collison ($9,935,963) - Signed
Ty Lawson ($1,471,382) - RENOUNCED
Bogdan Bogdanovic ($1,423,560) Signed
Pick 5 ($3,841,000) - Signed @ 120%
Pick 14 ($2,075,300) - Signed @ 120%
Pick 28 ($1,179,100) - Signed @ 120%

Dead Cap :sigh: :
Matt Barnes ($2,133,542)
Caron Butler ($517,220)
Arron Afflalo ($1,500,000) waived on draft day
Josh McRoberts ($6,021,175) waived at start of free agency
Langston Galloway ($5,434,000) waived during free agency
Trevor Booker - ($9,125,000) waived during free agency

Salary Summary
Current Player Salary after all approved trades = $77,688,143
Dead Cap = $24,730,937
Cap Number = $102,419,080
SALARY CAP = $101,000,000
Current Available Cap Space = ($1,419,080)


If you are really bored and want to see the discussions that went on, click these links:
Stage 1... Initial discussions: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1552537
Coaching: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1553608
Draft: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1565759
Free Agency Day 1: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1572791
Free Agency Day 2: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1573214
Free Agency Day 3: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1574084
Free Agency Day 4: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1574789
Free Agency Day 5: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1575614
Completed Trades: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1565756
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Re: Mock Offseason 

Post#2 » by sacking123 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:11 am

First of all, well done on the effort of putting all of this together.
I wouldn't be totally unhappy with your off season however I would be furious if we drafted Fox and he wasn't starting from day one. That's just me.
I like the Justin Jackson move, and I really can see us being in that spot at 10 TBH.
Not liking the Shabazz signing at all. Let JJ play and bring on Malachi I say in this scenario and give the Shabazz roster spot to someone we can let play at Reno or something and hopefully we could trade Clarkson too.
Overall I think the moves were realistic and you stuck to the vision well.
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Re: Mock Offseason 

Post#3 » by kalenclayton » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:52 am

simonbampfield wrote:First of all, well done on the effort of putting all of this together.
I wouldn't be totally unhappy with your off season however I would be furious if we drafted Fox and he wasn't starting from day one. That's just me.
I like the Justin Jackson move, and I really can see us being in that spot at 10 TBH.
Not liking the Shabazz signing at all. Let JJ play and bring on Malachi I say in this scenario and give the Shabazz roster spot to someone we can let play at Reno or something and hopefully we could trade Clarkson too.
Overall I think the moves were realistic and you stuck to the vision well.

Thank you for the feedback. I drafted Fox to be the PG of the future, but did not want to just throw him to the wolves (no pun intended). I wanted to have a vet like Collison help lead the way and make sure the other players could develop correctly. I picked up Shabazz to hopefully find a diamond in the rough. I think having him would be extremely low cost and we could cut him with no real repercussions.
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Re: Mock Offseason 

Post#4 » by VeganKingsFan » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:47 pm

Good: I like your 1st trade. Good value.
Bad: I don't like the Collison resigning or keeping Koufos and Tolliver (who was also waived). I think your return for taking Booker's contract was very low. We also can't draft Rodions Kurucs because he withdrew from the draft. I also HATE the Justin Jackson pick for many reasons, but some others agree with you. I just really see him as an end of the 1st talent and I'm not looking to reach for a low ceiling player just because he's a SF. I'd much rather have a bunch of other players who might be there like Donovan Mitchell, Justin Patton, T.J. Leaf, Zach Collins if he somehow falls, etc. I don't like that you couldn't get more value by using up our cap space to take on bad contracts (other than the slight move up by taking on Booker).
Overall, I'd be really unhappy with this offseason. I really hope this isn't the kind of offseason we get out of the Kings. No insult intended, we just have very different opinions. Good job putting in all that work and displaying it for us though.
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Re: Mock Offseason 

Post#5 » by Sactowndog » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:41 pm

kalenclayton wrote:Hey Guys,

We just finished our Mock-Offseason on the T&T-Games Board. It was organized by sportscrazy (the man, the myth, the legend), who took on the overwhelming role of commissioner. We had 30 users, each controlling a different team. I lucked out and got our beloved Sacramento Kings. We were tasked with being the GM of a team and staying true to their vision while trying to be as realistic as possible. While most teams stayed realistic, some went a little crazy with transactions and moved a few too many. Overall, it was extremely fun and I think I did a good job with our team. Take a look and let me know how I did. For all of the other offseasons (users still updating), take a look here: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1577699

Please grade my offseason and let me know how I did. What would you've done differently? How realistic was my offseason?

Sacramento Kings

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Offseason Summary
We went into this offseason embracing the identity of a rebuilding team. We had a lot of young talent on the squad, but needed to infuse the team with even more talent and future assets. Entering the draft, we had a ton of cap space but we knew that we wouldn't be chasing free agents. Taking on salary via trade became the goal of the offseason, but with the incoming salary, we would demand assets. We had an early decision to make with Anthony Tolliver and we guaranteed his contract for the year. We value his leadership. We also renounced the rights to Tyreke Evans as we did not see a future with him.

The draft came along and lasted a VERY lengthy time (71 pages; started May 18 and ended May 26). The Kings started the draft with picks 5, 10, and 34. The fifth pick (De'Aaron Fox) was a very easy pick, as he was exactly who we were targeting. This was the perfect 5th pick in our eyes.

The tenth pick was a lot harder. After a long period of deliberation and trade discussions, we decided against drafting Lauri Markkanen and OG Anunoby and traded down. We had our eyes on Anunoby, hoping that he would drop to 14, but he was ultimately selected at 13. When we dropped four spots, we picked up the 28th pick, as well as, Jordan Clarkson and a future 2nd rounder. We also had to take on the salary of Josh McRoberts in the trade. We had to renounce the cap hold on Rudy Gay at this moment to allow for the trade. We felt like this was a fantastic deal for our franchise and needed to take it. With the 14th pick, we selected Justin Jackson (North Carolina) whom we thought was a fantastic addition. Not only is he NBA ready, but he filled a slot that we needed to fill. We think he has the potential to be our SF of the future, but we are also being realistic in knowing that it is a gamble.

While time went by in the draft, the Brooklyn Nets contacted us about trading up. They needed to clear some cap space for the summer and we discussed a trade. We took on the expiring contract of Trevor Booker in order to move up seven spots from #34 to #27. This hurt a bit of our flexibility for the offseason, but ultimately, it gave us the opportunity to get the guy we really wanted. Armed we two more first round picks, we selected Rodions Kurucs at #27 and Jordan Bell at #28. This made the team ecstatic, as we got 2 more of our top 10 targets. We didn't think either player would be available at #34, so we were extremely excited to move up to get both of them! We tried to make a few more moves during the 2nd round, but ultimately found that we were better off standing pat. We waived Arron Afflalo by the end of the night in a salary cap move (guaranteeing him only $1.5 million).

Free Agency rolled around and we had some decisions to make. We discussed trades during free agency and tried to take on more salary for future assets. None of the trades materialized and we were left with a decision of whether or not to sign Darren Collison. We valued him a lot and wanted to bring him back, but we wanted to wait for more trade proposals. Unfortunately, he received a decent offer from the Knicks and we had to act fast. We ended up offering him a 2-year $24million contract with the second year being a player option. We really liked his fit with the team and his leadership qualities with the young guys. This signing dried up a lot of our cap space, so we decided it was time to sign Bogdan Bogdanovic. We offered him a 4-year $30million contract and he accepted. We were so excited to finally bring him over to be a big future piece to our rebuild.

In order to free up roster space for our four rookies, we had to make a few decisions. We asked Rodions Kurucs to stay in Barcelona to keep developing and he agreed to do so. Then we waived Josh McRoberts and Langston Galloway. We then set out to fill our 2-way roster spots and we signed Isaiah Cousins (2016 #60 pick) and Chris Boucher to 2-year contracts. We thought we were done with free agency, but saw that one our only targets hadn't even received an offer. We wanted Shabazz Muhammad greatly at the start of free agency, but thought he would be far out of our price range. We were baffled at this and decided to reach out on the last day of free agency. We asked Shabazz to sign with us for our remaining cap space ($1,290,363) with a player option in the second year. He accepted and we had a party! In order to make room for him, we waived Trevor Booker.

This offseason was a tremendous success for our front office. Not only did we achieve our goals of infusing our roster with youth, but we also preserved future flexibility in a huge way. We should have a ton of cap space next season along with a high pick in the draft. Our team may be ready to compete by 2019 and will have a ton of flexibility in the meantime.


Depth Chart at Start of the Season
italicized = new addition
() = two-way contract

PG: Darren Collison --- De'Aaron Fox --- Jordan Clarkson --- (Isaiah Cousins)
SG: Buddy Hield --- Bogdan Bogdanovic --- Malachi Richardson
SF: Garrett Temple --- Shabazz Muhammad --- Justin Jackson
PF: Skal Labissiere --- Anthony Tolliver --- Jordan Bell --- (Chris Boucher)
C: Willie Cauley-Stein --- Kosta Koufos --- Georgios Papagiannis


Transaction Activity:

TRADES (2)
1. 3-team trade: MIA-OKC-SAC (July 1st)
MIA out: #14, Tyler Johnson, and Josh McRoberts July 1
MIA in: #10

OKC out: 2019 Miami 2nd, Jordan Clarkson, and #28
OKC in: Tyler Johnson

SAC out: #10
SAC in: #14, #28, Clarkson, 2019 Miami 2nd, and Josh McRoberts

2. BKN-SAC (July 1st)
SAC in: Trevor Booker and #27
BKN in: #34

SIGNINGS and OTHER TRANSACTIONS
Waived Arron Afflalo
Waived Josh McRoberts
Agreed to have Rodions Kurucs stay in Barcelona
Waived Langston Galloway
Signed Bogdan Bogdanovic to a 4-year base pay $30 million deal
Signed Darren Collison to a 2-year base pay $24 million deal (2nd year PO)
Signed Isaiah Cousins to a 2-year two-way contract
Signed Chris Boucher to a 2-year two-way contract
Waived Trevor Booker
Signed Shabazz Muhammad to a 2-year ~$2.6 Million contract (2nd year PO)


Draft Results:

Pick 5: De'Aaron Fox (PG - University of Kentucky)
Pick 14: Justin Jackson (SF - University of North Carolina)
Pick 27: Rodions Kurucs (SF - Barcelona 2) (STASHED)
Pick 28: Jordan Bell (PF - University of Oregon)


Future Draft Picks:
2018: SAC 1st; SAC 2nd [More favorable of SAC and POR then other to DEN (via SAC swap for POR)]
2019: MIA 2nd (via CHA and OKC); SAC or MIL 2nd [Less favorable of SAC and MIL then other to PHL (via PHL swap of MIL for SAC (via BRK))]
2020: SAC 1st; SAC 2nd; DET 2nd (via PHX)
2021: SAC 1st; SAC 2nd
2022: SAC 1st; SAC 2nd
2023: SAC 1st; SAC 2nd
2024: SAC 1st; SAC 2nd

Player Rights Held:
Rodions Kurucs (Stashed)
Luka Mitrovic
Arturas Gudaitis
Dejan Bodiroga
Alex Oriakhi


Team Salary (17-18)
Spoiler:
Team Option
Player Option

PG
Darren Collison - 2 Years ($12,000,000; $12,000,000)
De'Aaron Fox - 2 Years ($4,609,200; $5,470,920; $6,392,760; $8,099,627)
Jordan Clarkson - 3 Years ($11,562,500; $12,500,000; $13,437,500)
(Isaiah Cousins - 2 Years - Two-Way Contract @ No Cap Hold)
PG 17-18 Salary = $28,171,700

SG
Buddy Hield - 1 Year ($3,675,480; $3,833,760; $4,861,208)
Bogdan Bogdanovic - 4 years ($7,500,000; $7,500,000; $7,500,000; $7,500,000)
Garrett Temple - 2 Years ($8,000,000; $8,000,000)
Malachi Richardson - 1 Year ($1,504,560; $1,569,360; $2,581,597)
SG 17-18 Salary = $20,680,040

SF
Justin Jackson 2 Years ($2,490,360; $2,955,840; $3,454,080; $5,115,492)
Shabazz Muhammad - 2 Year ($1,290,363, $1,348,429
SF 17-18 Salary = $3,780,723

PF
Skal Labissiere - 1 Year ($1,242,240; $1,295,760; $2,338,847)
Anthony Tolliver - 1 Year ($8,000,000)
Jordan Bell - 2 Years ($1,414,920; $1,679,520; $1,962,360; $3,542,060
(Chris Boucher - 2 Years - Two-Way Contract @ No Cap Hold)
PF 17-18 Salary = $10,657,160

C
Willie Cauley-Stein - 1 Year ($3,704,160; $4,696,875)
Kosta Koufos - 2 Years ($8,393,000; $8,739,500)
Georgios Papagiannis - 1 Year ($2,301,360; $2,400,480; $3,430,286)
C 17-18 Salary = $14,388,520

Cap Holds:
Rudy Gay ($20,000,000) RENOUNCED
Tyreke Evans ($15,305,633) RENOUNCED
Ben McLemore ($10,022,205 --- $5,375,911 QO) (QO Pulled) RENOUNCED
Darren Collison ($9,935,963) - Signed
Ty Lawson ($1,471,382) - RENOUNCED
Bogdan Bogdanovic ($1,423,560) Signed
Pick 5 ($3,841,000) - Signed @ 120%
Pick 14 ($2,075,300) - Signed @ 120%
Pick 28 ($1,179,100) - Signed @ 120%

Dead Cap :sigh: :
Matt Barnes ($2,133,542)
Caron Butler ($517,220)
Arron Afflalo ($1,500,000) waived on draft day
Josh McRoberts ($6,021,175) waived at start of free agency
Langston Galloway ($5,434,000) waived during free agency
Trevor Booker - ($9,125,000) waived during free agency

Salary Summary
Current Player Salary after all approved trades = $77,688,143
Dead Cap = $24,730,937
Cap Number = $102,419,080
SALARY CAP = $101,000,000
Current Available Cap Space = ($1,419,080)


If you are really bored and want to see the discussions that went on, click these links:
Stage 1... Initial discussions: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1552537
Coaching: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1553608
Draft: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1565759
Free Agency Day 1: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1572791
Free Agency Day 2: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1573214
Free Agency Day 3: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1574084
Free Agency Day 4: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1574789
Free Agency Day 5: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1575614
Completed Trades: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1565756


Not bad. The only problem is Kurucs withdrew from the draft.
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Re: Mock Offseason 

Post#6 » by kalenclayton » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:54 pm

VeganKingsFan wrote:Good: I like your 1st trade. Good value.
Bad: I don't like the Collison resigning or keeping Koufos and Tolliver (who was also waived). I think your return for taking Booker's contract was very low. We also can't draft Rodions Kurucs because he withdrew from the draft. I also HATE the Justin Jackson pick for many reasons, but some others agree with you. I just really see him as an end of the 1st talent and I'm not looking to reach for a low ceiling player just because he's a SF. I'd much rather have a bunch of other players who might be there like Donovan Mitchell, Justin Patton, T.J. Leaf, Zach Collins if he somehow falls, etc. I don't like that you couldn't get more value by using up our cap space to take on bad contracts (other than the slight move up by taking on Booker).
Overall, I'd be really unhappy with this offseason. I really hope this isn't the kind of offseason we get out of the Kings. No insult intended, we just have very different opinions. Good job putting in all that work and displaying it for us though.

Thank you for the feedback. Going into this, I wanted to try to be realistic to what Vlade would do. I would like to address some of the things you said about the offseason to give you a better feel for why things happened the way they did.

The retention of Collison, Koufos, and Tolliver: I kept these vets on the team because they did such a good job last season helping groom the young guys and they seem perfect to take on that role again. Collison was mainly retained to help Fox along and could possibly give up the starting role to him later on in the season. Koufos was retained to help minimize mistakes with the young guys and mainly to help with Papagiannis. Papa has stated in interviews that it's great to have Koufos there to bounce things off of. He respects him. Tolliver was retained for his positive approach to the team and his stretch role. His deadline for guaranteeing his contract was June 1st, but it was a lot earlier for me because our draft was in May. Back then, it was common to think that Tolliver was going to be retained and fans (myself included) were embracing that.

Taking Booker's contract: I agree that taking on Booker's contract was relatively low value in theory. The problem was that I was dealing with 30 other GMs. That trade was pretty much the only way for me to move up because there wasn't interest outside of them. So really, it was pretty much the only value at the time. I really wanted Kurucs and Bell, but I knew one or both would not be there at #34. Because of that, I needed to make a move and I believed that the cost of moving up would be worth taking on 1 year of Booker's contract.

Drafting Kurucs: The draft was done before Kurucs withdrew. This happened with a few other players actually. There was a specific and unfortunate moment with the Utah Jazz when the "GM" drafted Hamidou Diallo with the #30 pick. Diallo ended up withdrawing about a day later and Utah had to stick with that decision. Other notable withdrawals who were drafter here were: Justin Jackson (Maryland), Arnoldas Kulboka, and Kostja Mushidi. Back to Kurucs though. I thought getting him with the #27 pick was fantastic value. I think the guy is a real NBA talent and will surely look better in the next draft.

Drafting Justin Jackson (UNC): This pick was my least favorite pick of the four. I did this to try to stay with the Vlade narrative. I couldn't think of another player who would be Vlade's pick here. You suggested a few talented players (Mitchell, Patton, Z. Collins, Leaf), so I will address them:
Mitchell seemed redundant, especially after just acquiring Jordan Clarkson.
I did not like Justin Patton at that pick and I wouldn't go back in time to change it to him. I just am not the biggest believe in him, especially with our roster.
Zach Collins was gone. He was drafted a 9 by Dallas.
Leaf was actually the biggest consideration here. I was between Justin Jackson, Leaf, and... yes, Mitchell (because I, personally, love the guy's game). I passed on Leaf because I thought his game a little too similar to Skal. Now, you may be wondering, "They aren't in the same ballpark." Yes, I know, but they are both 4's who can stretch the floor, have decent to good fundamentals, and play hard for teammates. I just felt redundancy happening again, just how I felt with Clarkson.
I seem to like Jackson more than you do, but that is beside the point. I drafted Jackson because I thought he would fit right it with what Vlade is building. He wants gym rats/hard workers who go out and play hard every night. Jackson is that guy.

This Comment "I don't like that you couldn't get more value by using up our cap space to take on bad contracts (other than the slight move up by taking on Booker)": This was disappointing to me as well. There just weren't really any takers (until late in FA). The thing is, most of the contracts that I took on were 1-year deals, so future cap space was preserved and we could try again next offseason. I did that on purpose. The only multi-year deal that we took on was Jordan Clarkson. Booker and McRoberts were on 1-year deals, so that money would free up after the 17-18 season. Not only that but Galloway's $, Afflalo's guaranteed $, and Tolliver's contract will be expiring. Koufos, Collison, Temple, and Muhammad all have POs that they will most likely decline (Collison might not) so all of this turns into a ton of cap space for the 18-19 season. If all of those players opt in, then it's not that big of a deal. We could use them and then have lots of cap space in the 19-20 season, when we don't have a 1st. That is the season that we should really be trying to take the next step.

I would personally be ecstatic if our offseason looked like this. Sure, it's disappointing that we couldn't take on bad contracts for more assets, but that requires agreements from the other teams and they just weren't having it. Sorry for the essay. I just felt the need to bring you in to my decision-making. This mock was extremely fun, but also very difficult because we couldn't just throw out a deal like we do on the T&T board. We had to negotiate and make sure that the trades were consistent with the goals of each team. Again, I really appreciate your feedback and respect your opinions. Thanks man.
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Re: Mock Offseason 

Post#7 » by kalenclayton » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:59 pm

Sactowndog wrote:Not bad. The only problem is Kurucs withdrew from the draft.

Kurucs withdrew after we drafted. This was unfortunate because I really like the guy. Other (mock) drafted players who withdrew were: Hamidou Diallo (#30), Justin Jackson of Maryland (#36), Arnoldas Kulboka (#49), and Kostja Mushidi (#50). If the draft happened today and Kurucs was in it, I would think #27 (or even 21) would be great value for him.
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Re: Mock Offseason 

Post#8 » by Sactowndog » Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:02 pm

kalenclayton wrote:
Sactowndog wrote:Not bad. The only problem is Kurucs withdrew from the draft.

Kurucs withdrew after we drafted. This was unfortunate because I really like the guy. Other (mock) drafted players who withdrew were: Hamidou Diallo (#30), Justin Jackson of Maryland (#36), Arnoldas Kulboka (#49), and Kostja Mushidi (#50). If the draft happened today and Kurucs was in it, I would think #27 (or even 21) would be great value for him.


I love signing Collison with Fox. I think he not only serves as a good mentor but plays well off the ball and if in the floor with Fox gives you two defensive stoppers.
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Post#9 » by kalenclayton » Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:29 pm

Sactowndog wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
Sactowndog wrote:Not bad. The only problem is Kurucs withdrew from the draft.

Kurucs withdrew after we drafted. This was unfortunate because I really like the guy. Other (mock) drafted players who withdrew were: Hamidou Diallo (#30), Justin Jackson of Maryland (#36), Arnoldas Kulboka (#49), and Kostja Mushidi (#50). If the draft happened today and Kurucs was in it, I would think #27 (or even 21) would be great value for him.


I love signing Collison with Fox. I think he not only serves as a good mentor but plays well off the ball and if in the floor with Fox gives you two defensive stoppers.

That is exactly why I re-signed him. I thought the 1-2 year commitment would be perfect to allow Fox to develop. Not only that, but as you said Collison can play well off the ball. Vlade and co. are still trying to go for positionless basketball, as they should. The Kings can theoretically play:

Four players who can play PG (Fox, Collison, Clarkson, Temple in a pinch)

Seven players who can play SG (Hield, Bogdanovic, Richardson, Temple, Clarkson, Collison)

Six players who can play SF (Temple, Muhammad, Jackson, Richardson, Bogdanovic in a pinch, Tolliver in a pinch)

Four players who can play PF (Labissiere, Tolliver, Bell, WCS in a pinch)

Five players who can play C (WCS, Koufos, Papagiannis, Bell in a pinch, Skal in a pinch)

It's nice to be able to have versatility on your team and can help your players grow even more because there are more minutes to have and situations to come up.

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