Game #7 Sacramento @ Miami

[jazanetti]

I was waiting for it) 7 feet 25 y.o. center who ABSOLUTELY do not protect the paint, can't shoot from distance, do not want to set screens, playes hard only during his contract year, being known as lazy ass and wants to be payed as a star... Yeah, give him 70 millions! Even if you've just picked 2nd 19 y.o. extremely talented big man, who can do the same.

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Bagley and WCS are much different players. If you watch the games that's pretty clear to me. He may not block shots but hes an average at worst defender who can defend the pick and roll while showing out on faster guards.

Again I'm not entirely sure how much of his game was due to being in the wrong system and how much from wanting to get paid. This system just seems like a natural fit for him unlike the garbage we ran the last 2 years.

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Yeah Willie seemed to try to force some things against Whiteside early on last night but for the most part, the offense is coming to him naturally which is a good sign. Unless we find a good deal for him at the deadline, I think it's in the team's best interest to bring him back next year. 4/70 would be my limit but hoping for more of a 4/60 deal.

Still too much. Miles Turner signed 4/72, Willie is not even close. 3/40 (like Winslow) is my limit. Or let him go and spend money to get wings.



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[codydaze]

Bagley and WCS are much different players. If you watch the games that's pretty clear to me. He may not block shots but hes an average at worst defender who can defend the pick and roll while showing out on faster guards.

Again I'm not entirely sure how much of his game was due to being in the wrong system and how much from wanting to get paid. This system just seems like a natural fit for him unlike the garbage we ran the last 2 years.

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Yeah Willie seemed to try to force some things against Whiteside early on last night but for the most part, the offense is coming to him naturally which is a good sign. Unless we find a good deal for him at the deadline, I think it's in the team's best interest to bring him back next year. 4/70 would be my limit but hoping for more of a 4/60 deal.

Still too much. Miles Turner signed 4/72, Willie is not even close. 3/40 (like Winslow) is my limit. Or let him go and spend money to get wings.



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He's going to get offered a 4/60 or 4/70 deal this summer, I can guarantee you that and you don't just let him walk if that's the case, that would be terrible asset management. You either match or get something in a sign and trade.

[jazanetti]

Yeah Willie seemed to try to force some things against Whiteside early on last night but for the most part, the offense is coming to him naturally which is a good sign. Unless we find a good deal for him at the deadline, I think it's in the team's best interest to bring him back next year. 4/70 would be my limit but hoping for more of a 4/60 deal.

Still too much. Miles Turner signed 4/72, Willie is not even close. 3/40 (like Winslow) is my limit. Or let him go and spend money to get wings.



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He's going to get offered a 4/60 or 4/70 deal this summer, I can guarantee you that and you don't just let him walk if that's the case, that would be terrible asset management. You either match or get something in a sign and trade.

And I can guarantee that he will not get an offer from any other team) In the modern league the man who can't shoot 3s and makes less than 60% FT needs to have potential to dominate like Giannis, create like Simmons or defend like Gobert to get payed. If not, it's just a role player and not a primary target at FA market.

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[codydaze]

Still too much. Miles Turner signed 4/72, Willie is not even close. 3/40 (like Winslow) is my limit. Or let him go and spend money to get wings.



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He's going to get offered a 4/60 or 4/70 deal this summer, I can guarantee you that and you don't just let him walk if that's the case, that would be terrible asset management. You either match or get something in a sign and trade.

And I can guarantee that he will not get an offer from any other team) In the modern league the man who can't shoot 3s and makes less than 60% FT needs to have potential to dominate like Giannis, create like Simmons or defend like Gobert to get payed. If not, it's just a role player and not a primary target at FA market.

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Let's look at some numbers.

Player A (Per36):
16.1 Pts
11.6 Reb
2.0 Ast
0.7 Stl
1.7 Blk
2.2 TO
60.3% FG% - 44.4 FT%

Player B (Per36):
21.2 Pts
10.4 Reb
3.4 Ast
1.2 Stl
0.5 Blk
1.2 TO
58.1% FG% - 54.8 FT%

Player C (Per36):
16.2 Pts
7.7 Reb
1.5 Ast
0.6 Stl
2.9 Blk
1.5 TO
51.4% FG% - 66.7% FT%

Who gets paid most and who gets paid least? How big is the difference between contracts?

[jazanetti]

He's going to get offered a 4/60 or 4/70 deal this summer, I can guarantee you that and you don't just let him walk if that's the case, that would be terrible asset management. You either match or get something in a sign and trade.

And I can guarantee that he will not get an offer from any other team) In the modern league the man who can't shoot 3s and makes less than 60% FT needs to have potential to dominate like Giannis, create like Simmons or defend like Gobert to get payed. If not, it's just a role player and not a primary target at FA market.

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Let's look at some numbers.

Player A (Per36):
16.1 Pts
11.6 Reb
2.0 Ast
0.7 Stl
1.7 Blk
2.2 TO
60.3% FG% - 44.4 FT%

Player B (Per36):
21.2 Pts
10.4 Reb
3.4 Ast
1.2 Stl
0.5 Blk
1.2 TO
58.1% FG% - 54.8 FT%

Player C (Per36):
16.2 Pts
7.7 Reb
1.5 Ast
0.6 Stl
2.9 Blk
1.5 TO
51.4% FG% - 66.7% FT%

Who gets paid most and who gets paid least? How big is the difference between contracts?

Capella (A) was overpayed because Rockets is a contender, it's OK to overpay your key role players in that situation (TT and Cavs) And he's much better defender, who protects the paint and can play against guards.
Turner (C) is 22 y.o. with tons of potential, shoots 3s (35% last yeat), and made nearly 80% FT. 7 games this season is too small sample. And he protects the paint adding nearly 2 block per game. He fits modern NBA greatly.
Willie killes your team spacing in offense and do not protect the paint. He needs to be paired with a bigman who gives spacing and protects the paint at the same time. But if you have that one, you do not need another bigman)

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[codydaze]

And I can guarantee that he will not get an offer from any other team) In the modern league the man who can't shoot 3s and makes less than 60% FT needs to have potential to dominate like Giannis, create like Simmons or defend like Gobert to get payed. If not, it's just a role player and not a primary target at FA market.

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Let's look at some numbers.

Player A (Per36):
16.1 Pts
11.6 Reb
2.0 Ast
0.7 Stl
1.7 Blk
2.2 TO
60.3% FG% - 44.4 FT%

Player B (Per36):
21.2 Pts
10.4 Reb
3.4 Ast
1.2 Stl
0.5 Blk
1.2 TO
58.1% FG% - 54.8 FT%

Player C (Per36):
16.2 Pts
7.7 Reb
1.5 Ast
0.6 Stl
2.9 Blk
1.5 TO
51.4% FG% - 66.7% FT%

Who gets paid most and who gets paid least? How big is the difference between contracts?

Capella (A) was overpayed because Rockets is a contender, it's OK to overpay your key role players in that situation (TT and Cavs) And he's much better defender, who protects the paint and can play against guards.
Turner (C) is 22 y.o. with tons of potential, shoots 3s (35% last yeat), and made nearly 80% FT. 7 games this season is too small sample. And he protects the paint adding nearly 2 block per game. He fits modern NBA greatly.
Willie killes your team spacing in offense and do not protect the paint. He needs to be paired with a bigman who gives spacing and protects the paint at the same time. But if you have that one, you do not need another bigman)

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Willie has killed our spacing this year? So your only point is that Willie doesn't shoot 3s or block shots? His passing ability doesn't matter? Pick and roll defense? You never answered the question either you only danced answered the question because you looked up who each guy was. Willie's numbers above are the best of the 3 and if they're not they are very marginally weaker so why would Willie make 5-6 million less per year than those guys? It's not like he was stagnant year after year and then all of a sudden started balling out like crazy, he's progressed steadily year over year. The fact that it's a contract year plays into a little bit, sure, but that doesn't change the fact that he has been a huge part of why this team is currently 4-3. There's no arguing otherwise.

[SacKingZZZ]

Willies an athletic 7 footer. He was never not getting paid.