Do the King's need a centre?

[KF10]

I don't think we are a good enough team in simply putting a body at the C i.e Warriors with Looney or whoever. We need someone who is a positive upgrade over WCS. I don't mind going for the stars and target Horford but I wouldn't oppose a Dedmon or a Lopez option either.

[benchmobbin02]

Yeah, I agree he probably gets moved before he's really an option for us.

Am I missing why he wouldn't be an option for us now?

He could be moved before free agency starts is the point here. We would want to test FA first before making that move.

But does getting one year of Baynes at 5milstop us from giving Dedmon a 3 yr deal to start?

[bleeds_purple]

I think eventually Bagley is gonna split his minutes at PF and C if not play majority of his minutes at C. But he's not gonna be able to do that effectively for a few more years. Ideally we bring in a stop-gap center on a relatively cheap 2-3 year deal. Everyone knows the names that get thrown around here: Lopez, Dedmon. etc.. Those guys fit the bill.

The Kings need a big body somewhere at center for sure. I think physically Bagley should realistically come in next year with a more ready frame. He's fairly developed already. I would think it possible both Bagley and Giles come in with more size next year.

If we want a big body we can get Baynes for 1/5 of the price. Do you really want to pay Adams $53M for two seasons? He's worth about $15M. He's really solid but so overpaid. The only way I'm down with getting him is if we basically figured out we cannot sign anyone because after resigning Barnes and bringing him in our cap space is basically gone.

[SacKingZZZ]

I think eventually Bagley is gonna split his minutes at PF and C if not play majority of his minutes at C. But he's not gonna be able to do that effectively for a few more years. Ideally we bring in a stop-gap center on a relatively cheap 2-3 year deal. Everyone knows the names that get thrown around here: Lopez, Dedmon. etc.. Those guys fit the bill.

The Kings need a big body somewhere at center for sure. I think physically Bagley should realistically come in next year with a more ready frame. He's fairly developed already. I would think it possible both Bagley and Giles come in with more size next year.

If we want a big body we can get Baynes for 1/5 of the price. Do you really want to pay Adams $53M for two seasons? He's worth about $15M. He's really solid but so overpaid. The only way I'm down with getting him is if we basically figured out we cannot sign anyone because after resigning Barnes and bringing him in our cap space is basically gone.

It depends, are the Kings going to be able to use that space on anything else? Baynes is a decent filler type but Adams is a better player so if the Kings have money to burn then might as well go with the better player right? Obviously the Kings won't get that value out of Adams monetarily, no argument there, but I think he moves the needle more.

[dckingsfan]

I think eventually Bagley is gonna split his minutes at PF and C if not play majority of his minutes at C. But he's not gonna be able to do that effectively for a few more years. Ideally we bring in a stop-gap center on a relatively cheap 2-3 year deal. Everyone knows the names that get thrown around here: Lopez, Dedmon. etc.. Those guys fit the bill.

The Kings need a big body somewhere at center for sure. I think physically Bagley should realistically come in next year with a more ready frame. He's fairly developed already. I would think it possible both Bagley and Giles come in with more size next year.

If we want a big body we can get Baynes for 1/5 of the price. Do you really want to pay Adams $53M for two seasons? He's worth about $15M. He's really solid but so overpaid. The only way I'm down with getting him is if we basically figured out we cannot sign anyone because after resigning Barnes and bringing him in our cap space is basically gone.

The only way I would have done that deal is if we got their pick too... A straight swap of cap space for Adams - no.

[Mattya]

Would you do Covington and Dieng for Giles?

[SacKingZZZ]

Would you do Covington and Dieng for Giles?

I don't think Vlade would. I would consider it if I were GM. Re-sign Barnes and play he and Covington together.

[jazanetti]

Would you do Covington and Dieng for Giles?

Dieng's contract is too bad. Dieng+Covington for nothing (Mason/seconds) is a fair deal.

[benchmobbin02]

Would you do Covington and Dieng for Giles?

I would do it. I think VLade would as well. Those guys could be key pieces to a really good team. They are established role players. Giles is still pretty much all potential and his legs are still a question mark.

[City of Trees]

Would you do Covington and Dieng for Giles?

Questions remain about Giles being apart of the core moving forward but we should have answers by the end of next season.

Covington is a nice piece and doesn't get the respect he deserves but it's too early for me to give up on Giles.

I'd say no.

[KF10]

Would you do Covington and Dieng for Giles?

I'll do it.

Covington would be an excellent replacement at SF for the Kings.

I hate giving up Giles but RoCo is someone that legitimately fills a hole of need for the Kings. Plus, his contract is regarded one of the best valued given his production.

[THE J0KER]

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Speaking about the upcoming season, I think Sacramento should use that giant cap space, especially after Barnes is gone, to maximize their competitive potential already for the upcoming season and be a playoff team for the next 5+ years. PG-Fox, SG-Hield, and PF-Bagley, with 6th man Bogdanovic, are potentially TOP5 (or close) Western Conference team if you use that cap space for TOP40 SF and Center! Sacramento is a small market team, so big stars in their prime will not join, but *semistars* centers like Horford and Vucevic, or forwards like Tobias Harris and Middleton can join for sure. Also, that big cap space you can use indirectly to take via trade notable SF/C together with one bad contract (Covington + Dieng, Josh Richardson + Hassan Whiteside) or take little bit overpaid but proven players from those SF/C positions like Gallinari, Otto Porter, Steven Adams... Good luck!

[KF10]

Hi, Kings fans!
Here is one intrigue photo from Belgrade today.



Speaking about the upcoming season, I think Sacramento should use that giant cap space, especially after Barnes is gone, to maximize their competitive potential already for the upcoming season and be a playoff team for the next 5+ years. PG-Fox, SG-Hield, and PF-Bagley, with 6th man Bogdanovic, are potentially TOP5 (or close) Western Conference team if you use that cap space for TOP40 SF and Center! Sacramento is a small market team, so big stars in their prime will not join, but *semistars* centers like Horford and Vucevic, or forwards like Tobias Harris and Middleton can join for sure. Also, that big cap space you can use indirectly to take via trade notable SF/C together with one bad contract (Covington + Dieng, Josh Richardson + Hassan Whiteside) or take little bit overpaid but proven players from those SF/C positions like Gallinari, Otto Porter, Steven Adams... Good luck!

Yeah, I really think the Kings are set at the PG, SG & PF right now with Fox, Buddy, and Bagley. Bogdan can be an excellent 6th man with him leading the 2nd unit.

I really hope the Kings do not re-sign WCS back. The guy shouldn't be brought back as the starting C anymore. Let's move on.

Also, as much as I like Barnes (he's a solid 3/4 option), I would rather play around the space that was created with him opting out than re-signing Barnes back at a smaller deal, imo.

Renouncing WCS' rights and letting Barnes go (& not bring back the depth fodder i.e. Swanigan, Burks, Yogi, Mason, etc), the Kings will have $60m+ in cap space this summer.

I'm excited. Hopefully Vlade makes the right choice lol

[bleeds_purple]

The only way I would have done that deal is if we got their pick too... A straight swap of cap space for Adams - no.

$25M a season is a lot for a guy who fits the roster best as a backup. That being said, an Adams/Bjelica backup front-line would be pretty damn good.

I'd rather try to do something like sign Dedmon/Lopez, sign Marcus Morris, resign Barnes and Brewer, and then sign a back-up PG like Collison that would be probably my ideal (reasonable) off-season.

Fox/Collison
Buddy/Bogdan
Barnes/Brewer
Bagley/Morris
Dedmon/Giles

That team could flirt with 50 wins if Fox and Bagley take a step.

[donkeylips]

Add bjelica to that depth chart and that would be a good team.

[dckingsfan]

Would you do Covington and Dieng for Giles?

I'll do it.

Covington would be an excellent replacement at SF for the Kings.

I hate giving up Giles but RoCo is someone that legitimately fills a hole of need for the Kings. Plus, his contract is regarded one of the best valued given his production.

I would do it also. It would solidify the rotation going into FA - we wouldn't have to panic or bid against ourselves. It wouldn't preclude going after Dedmon for example. It would still allow for tremendous cap flexibility in 2020 and 2021 t resign Fox, Hield and Bogdan should he step back up as we expect him to do so. I think a Dieng/Bjelica backup to a Dedmon/Bagley FC would be outstanding.

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Player       Age   2019-20         2020-21       2021-22
Dieng        29   $16,229,213    $17,287,640    
Covington    28   $11,301,219    $12,138,345    $12,975,471
Bagley       20   $8,556,120     $8,963,640     $11,312,114
Bogdanovic   26   $8,529,386       
Bjelica      31   $6,825,000     $7,150,000    
Fox          21   $6,392,760     $8,099,627    
Hield        26   $4,861,208       
Ferrell      26   $3,150,000       
Swanigan     22   $2,033,160     $3,665,787    
                 $67,878,066    $57,305,039     $24,287,585

Fox/Ferrell
Hield/Bogdan
Covington
Bagley/Bjelica/Swanigan
Dieng

I would also ask for Minny's 2022 second round draft pick from Philadelphia or Denver (more favorable).