100%City of Trees wrote:Kuminga is going to be one of the best players from his draft class. Book it
This dude just gets mad when you point out the obvious. I mean look how is tone has changed on haliburton in 3 games, I thought it would take him 2 years but he's faster than I thought. King of small sample sizesBoogieTime wrote:simonbampfield wrote:RipPizzaGuy wrote:Just a few less wins and maybe we coulda had kuminga :/
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I know you're not high on Davion, but that is strange after he goes for a career night.
Kuminga would be decent too, I get it, but tell me who doesn't look good coming off this Warriors bench and playing with Steph and Klay.
It sounds like its meant to cause trouble. I don't normally respond to the poster, but this is a time period leading up to the trade deadline and beyond where a lot of things will be said, and I can't let some things go without rebuttal, for now. After the roster is congealed I think less will be said where I would feel the need to rebut
BoogieTime wrote:Kuminga is "spring break" because you never know what he will do. Wiggins 2.0 Bad BBIQ/no range/awkward tweener barreling into the lane
RipPizzaGuy wrote:It's not even about Davion necessarily. It's just how you need to build a team In today's nba. Wings and forwards are without a doubt the most important position. And the kings haven't had good ones in forever.simonbampfield wrote:RipPizzaGuy wrote:Just a few less wins and maybe we coulda had kuminga :/
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I know you're not high on Davion, but that is strange after he goes for a career night.
Kuminga would be decent too, I get it, but tell me who doesn't look good coming off this Warriors bench and playing with Steph and Klay.
Instead we continue to focus on guards and centers. It's a continued recipe for disaster.
Between age, body size, skill set, position.. Kuminga has a chance to become an elite star. Mitchell may become a good starter.
And we all knew that kuminga was very raw coming out. The fact he is doing what he is doing is kinda crazy. Mitchell was a college champion who is 23 and supposed to be polished out the games.
In a sense it's like a Malcolm brogdon vs jaylen brown. Yes brogdon won rookie of the year, but flash forward 6 years and brogdon is basically the same player at 29 years old, and jaylen brown is 25 a star and hasn't even entered his prime.
So again, not even a knock on mitchell. Could become a good player. He won't change a franchise like scottie Barnes or kuminga can.
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simonbampfield wrote:RipPizzaGuy wrote:It's not even about Davion necessarily. It's just how you need to build a team In today's nba. Wings and forwards are without a doubt the most important position. And the kings haven't had good ones in forever.simonbampfield wrote:
I know you're not high on Davion, but that is strange after he goes for a career night.
Kuminga would be decent too, I get it, but tell me who doesn't look good coming off this Warriors bench and playing with Steph and Klay.
Instead we continue to focus on guards and centers. It's a continued recipe for disaster.
Between age, body size, skill set, position.. Kuminga has a chance to become an elite star. Mitchell may become a good starter.
And we all knew that kuminga was very raw coming out. The fact he is doing what he is doing is kinda crazy. Mitchell was a college champion who is 23 and supposed to be polished out the games.
In a sense it's like a Malcolm brogdon vs jaylen brown. Yes brogdon won rookie of the year, but flash forward 6 years and brogdon is basically the same player at 29 years old, and jaylen brown is 25 a star and hasn't even entered his prime.
So again, not even a knock on mitchell. Could become a good player. He won't change a franchise like scottie Barnes or kuminga can.
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That's fair. Spot on about positions. It's why I have said before the Kings drafting strategy should change to mirror Toronto's. Long, speed and players that put in effort.
Does anyone believe we would develop a raw player though?
RipPizzaGuy wrote:simonbampfield wrote:RipPizzaGuy wrote:It's not even about Davion necessarily. It's just how you need to build a team In today's nba. Wings and forwards are without a doubt the most important position. And the kings haven't had good ones in forever.
Instead we continue to focus on guards and centers. It's a continued recipe for disaster.
Between age, body size, skill set, position.. Kuminga has a chance to become an elite star. Mitchell may become a good starter.
And we all knew that kuminga was very raw coming out. The fact he is doing what he is doing is kinda crazy. Mitchell was a college champion who is 23 and supposed to be polished out the games.
In a sense it's like a Malcolm brogdon vs jaylen brown. Yes brogdon won rookie of the year, but flash forward 6 years and brogdon is basically the same player at 29 years old, and jaylen brown is 25 a star and hasn't even entered his prime.
So again, not even a knock on mitchell. Could become a good player. He won't change a franchise like scottie Barnes or kuminga can.
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That's fair. Spot on about positions. It's why I have said before the Kings drafting strategy should change to mirror Toronto's. Long, speed and players that put in effort.
Does anyone believe we would develop a raw player though?
Exactly, Toronto is a fantastic example. OG, Barnes, Siakam are all guys you would love on your team.
As to developing a raw player. I mean, that is the trap we keep falling into for how many years? We keep going in the same cycle because Vivek thinks we are 1 player away, so instead of developing a guy we just draft someone who is "nba ready".
Thomas Robinson "Excellent college rebounder should translate immediately"
Jimmer Ferdette LOL
Stauskas was a 21 year old sharp shooter. I remember they would show us highlights of him hitting 50 straight 3s in his backyard lol.
WCS was the 22 year old ready to go center, instead of the more raw 19 year old Turner
Even Marvin Bagley and his Nbadraft.net profile, the first thing it reads is - "NBA-ready body"
The only guys we took a risk on were De'aaron Fox, who was considered far more raw and unready than Dennis Smith Jr. I remember Vlade being called dumb for taking him over DSJ. And Haliburton who quickly fell down the draft board for questions about his position and handling, but that one was kinda a no brainer.
Id rather stop drafting guys who are "NBA Ready" and are who we thought they were, and instead take a few big risks and hope they pan out.