Playoffs R1 Discussion Thread - Kings vs Warriors

[OxAndFox]

I mean, if its intentional I don't see it as a character assault but rather smart gamesmanship. Getting Dray kicked out a nip and tuck second game and a possibly pivotal third game. Its kind of odd to that Sabonis was in the position of "holding" his leg. If there was anything behind the scenes of Brown or other ex Warriors coaches knowing Dray's personality/reaction to such antics, I'd say we have some extra intelligence on the bench

Dont know if it was intentional though

There's a difference between gamesmanship and calling a player dirty. You don't color a player with that term lightly. It's bush league from the Warriors organization and players.

In terms of the play itself, Boogie, get one of your friends to stand lightly on your chest and then get them to launch off you. See how you go. To me it's disgusting how hard people have gone at Sabonis, with NO benefit of the doubt. When has he done anything dirty? He doesn't have a reputation, and yet he is being crucified, all because the Warriors want to deflect from what Dray did.

Uhh, you don't know how much of his pressure was on his left leg (while Sabonis seems instantaneously reacting to it). There is a reason why Sabonis got a technical. Whether someone is "dirty" or not, gamesmanship like that happens in pro sports. And its quite hometown to just state Sabonis had no intentions on the play and dig your head in the sand without considering anything else.

That's why I'm saying stand lightly. Put the least amount of pressure on it and then see how you go. It won't be pretty.
I HAVE considered the other side. I was there at the time it happened. But once the behind view came out, it was clear.
So I will say this. Are you and others that have only looked at 1 side of this burying your head in the sand?

I will simply copy what I put in another thread.
Shouldn't a guy with a clean record be given some benefit of the doubt? He said exactly what happened. It's clear-cut on the replay. Yes the TNT view looks like he deliberately grabs Dray, but you get the behind view and it's extremely clear what Domas said was what happened.
No one is saying Domas is a saint. He deserved the tech because of negligence (failure to take proper care over something is literally the definition) Once he tries to protect himself, he also has an obligation to other players' safety as well, which, he wrapped his arm around Dray's leg. He received a technical for that. That's fine. Again, this is a guy with a clean slate.

[BoogieTime]

There's a difference between gamesmanship and calling a player dirty. You don't color a player with that term lightly. It's bush league from the Warriors organization and players.

In terms of the play itself, Boogie, get one of your friends to stand lightly on your chest and then get them to launch off you. See how you go. To me it's disgusting how hard people have gone at Sabonis, with NO benefit of the doubt. When has he done anything dirty? He doesn't have a reputation, and yet he is being crucified, all because the Warriors want to deflect from what Dray did.

Uhh, you don't know how much of his pressure was on his left leg (while Sabonis seems instantaneously reacting to it). There is a reason why Sabonis got a technical. Whether someone is "dirty" or not, gamesmanship like that happens in pro sports. And its quite hometown to just state Sabonis had no intentions on the play and dig your head in the sand without considering anything else.

That's why I'm saying stand lightly. Put the least amount of pressure on it and then see how you go. It won't be pretty.
I HAVE considered the other side. I was there at the time it happened. But once the behind view came out, it was clear.
So I will say this. Are you and others that have only looked at 1 side of this burying your head in the sand?

I will simply copy what I put in another thread.
Shouldn't a guy with a clean record be given some benefit of the doubt? He said exactly what happened. It's clear-cut on the replay. Yes the TNT view looks like he deliberately grabs Dray, but you get the behind view and it's extremely clear what Domas said was what happened.
No one is saying Domas is a saint. He deserved the tech because of negligence (failure to take proper care over something is literally the definition) Once he tries to protect himself, he also has an obligation to other players' safety as well, which, he wrapped his arm around Dray's leg. He received a technical for that. That's fine. Again, this is a guy with a clean slate.

Perhaps you didn't see both my posts were littered with supposition, and I literally said something like I believe over 50%. Both of us don't know for certain if it was intentional or not, yet one of us is making the stance that one side is fact.

What is the behind the view? Sabonis' own account as if he is going to say anything else?

When he went down, which is only one part of this, I didn't think he was in a position of being forced to wrap his arms around Draymond to protect himself, but that is subjective (or that he didn't see he was doing it and could've done something else)

Your opinion seems colored by the fact that you think if Domas did happen to do some of this intentional, that he is a bad human, or "dirty". Whereas many people wouldn't view it like that. They view other teams going at opposing teams weaknesses (Dray's instability), physical or mental, as part of the game

[OxAndFox]

Uhh, you don't know how much of his pressure was on his left leg (while Sabonis seems instantaneously reacting to it). There is a reason why Sabonis got a technical. Whether someone is "dirty" or not, gamesmanship like that happens in pro sports. And its quite hometown to just state Sabonis had no intentions on the play and dig your head in the sand without considering anything else.

That's why I'm saying stand lightly. Put the least amount of pressure on it and then see how you go. It won't be pretty.
I HAVE considered the other side. I was there at the time it happened. But once the behind view came out, it was clear.
So I will say this. Are you and others that have only looked at 1 side of this burying your head in the sand?

I will simply copy what I put in another thread.
Shouldn't a guy with a clean record be given some benefit of the doubt? He said exactly what happened. It's clear-cut on the replay. Yes the TNT view looks like he deliberately grabs Dray, but you get the behind view and it's extremely clear what Domas said was what happened.
No one is saying Domas is a saint. He deserved the tech because of negligence (failure to take proper care over something is literally the definition) Once he tries to protect himself, he also has an obligation to other players' safety as well, which, he wrapped his arm around Dray's leg. He received a technical for that. That's fine. Again, this is a guy with a clean slate.

Perhaps you didn't see both my posts were littered with supposition, and I literally said something like I believe over 50%. Both of us don't know for certain if it was intentional or not, yet one of us is making the stance that one side is fact.

What is the behind the view? Sabonis' own account as if he is going to say anything else?

When he went down, which is only one part of this, I didn't think he was in a position of being forced to wrap his arms around Draymond to protect himself, but that is subjective (or that he didn't see he was doing it and could've done something else)

Your opinion seems colored by the fact that you think if Domas did happen to do some of this intentional, that he is a bad human, or "dirty". Whereas many people wouldn't view it like that. They view other teams going at opposing teams weaknesses (Dray's instability), physical or mental, as part of the game

You see "Dray's instability/team weakness" etc, that's where it falls apart. Why would Domas choose that time to "expose" Dray's instability and risk injury? Potential serious injury at that. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If Domas wants to bait him. He would do it with the ball in his hand on the offensive end and use it like a weapon as the Warrior. Yes the Warriors organization has said and complained to the NBA.

In terms of the video. Below is a slow-mo close-up. No not the Mo Speights one.

Read on Twitter

[BoogieTime]

That's why I'm saying stand lightly. Put the least amount of pressure on it and then see how you go. It won't be pretty.
I HAVE considered the other side. I was there at the time it happened. But once the behind view came out, it was clear.
So I will say this. Are you and others that have only looked at 1 side of this burying your head in the sand?

I will simply copy what I put in another thread.
Shouldn't a guy with a clean record be given some benefit of the doubt? He said exactly what happened. It's clear-cut on the replay. Yes the TNT view looks like he deliberately grabs Dray, but you get the behind view and it's extremely clear what Domas said was what happened.
No one is saying Domas is a saint. He deserved the tech because of negligence (failure to take proper care over something is literally the definition) Once he tries to protect himself, he also has an obligation to other players' safety as well, which, he wrapped his arm around Dray's leg. He received a technical for that. That's fine. Again, this is a guy with a clean slate.

Perhaps you didn't see both my posts were littered with supposition, and I literally said something like I believe over 50%. Both of us don't know for certain if it was intentional or not, yet one of us is making the stance that one side is fact.

What is the behind the view? Sabonis' own account as if he is going to say anything else?

When he went down, which is only one part of this, I didn't think he was in a position of being forced to wrap his arms around Draymond to protect himself, but that is subjective (or that he didn't see he was doing it and could've done something else)

Your opinion seems colored by the fact that you think if Domas did happen to do some of this intentional, that he is a bad human, or "dirty". Whereas many people wouldn't view it like that. They view other teams going at opposing teams weaknesses (Dray's instability), physical or mental, as part of the game

You see "Dray's instability/team weakness" etc, that's where it falls apart. Why would Domas choose that time to "expose" Dray's instability and risk injury? Potential serious injury at that. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If Domas wants to bait him. He would do it with the ball in his hand on the offensive end and use it like a weapon as the Warrior. Yes the Warriors organization has said and complained to the NBA.

In terms of the video. Below is a slow-mo close-up. No not the Mo Speights one.

Read on Twitter

That angle supports Domas more, I didn’t see why he was possibly holding his face and going down.

I didn’t see grabbing Draymonds leg when he was stationary as seriously risking injury, and I don’t know a more subtle way to bait Draymond that wouldn’t risk as much injury. What does using the ball as a weapon towards him mean? Falling like that towards someone’s legs certainly might be risking that injury (if he wasn’t sure he wasn’t going to make contact with them, or if he didn’t know that’s what he was doing and made the split second decision to bait him after already there)

[codydaze]

Perhaps you didn't see both my posts were littered with supposition, and I literally said something like I believe over 50%. Both of us don't know for certain if it was intentional or not, yet one of us is making the stance that one side is fact.

What is the behind the view? Sabonis' own account as if he is going to say anything else?

When he went down, which is only one part of this, I didn't think he was in a position of being forced to wrap his arms around Draymond to protect himself, but that is subjective (or that he didn't see he was doing it and could've done something else)

Your opinion seems colored by the fact that you think if Domas did happen to do some of this intentional, that he is a bad human, or "dirty". Whereas many people wouldn't view it like that. They view other teams going at opposing teams weaknesses (Dray's instability), physical or mental, as part of the game

You see "Dray's instability/team weakness" etc, that's where it falls apart. Why would Domas choose that time to "expose" Dray's instability and risk injury? Potential serious injury at that. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If Domas wants to bait him. He would do it with the ball in his hand on the offensive end and use it like a weapon as the Warrior. Yes the Warriors organization has said and complained to the NBA.

In terms of the video. Below is a slow-mo close-up. No not the Mo Speights one.

Read on Twitter

That angle supports Domas more, I didn’t see why he was possibly holding his face and going down.

I didn’t see grabbing Draymonds leg when he was stationary as seriously risking injury, and I don’t know a more subtle way to bait Draymond that wouldn’t risk as much injury. What does using the ball as a weapon towards him mean? Falling like that towards someone’s legs certainly might be risking that injury (if he wasn’t sure he wasn’t going to make contact with them, or if he didn’t know that’s what he was doing and made the split second decision to bait him after already there)

Also, this angle shows Draymond's full weight on his right leg into Domas chest.

[LofJ]

As a fellow long suffering fan I hope you guys rise to the occasion and crush the Warriors tonight. Go Kings!!!

[SacKingZZZ]

3rd times a charm GO KINGS!!!

[BoogieTime]

Keegan Murray is starting 0-2 and I'm already at my wits end with him

and it exemplifies the toughness he has shown this year, which is little

[City of Trees]

It would be nice to see Keegan and Huerter start making some 3's

[City of Trees]

TNT TD let's go

[BoogieTime]

hard to get mad at the whole team..

Huerter no show all series.. Sabonis with 5 turnovers.. Monk/Lyles with their inconsistency... barnes doing nothing but missing free throws

I am not feeling this game three at all

when will this terrible shooting end? its obviously mental weakness of some kind, getting jitters all series

[blind prophet]

I haven't checked the stats but....

It seems like the Warriors have a trillion offensive boards, every single 50/50 ball has went to them....

And the refs sure seem to suck.

[City of Trees]

The team needs to loosen up. Too tight and rushing shots. Inexperience is showing

[codydaze]

Not doing ourselves any favors tonight. Putting up bad shots, allowing too many offensive boards, unforced turnovers. Need to clean things up or this might be over quick.

[Silver Man]

Move Terence Davis to Guantanamo Bay and throw the key away.

[BoogieTime]

the shooting garbage all series, besides jitters all series is there anything schematically im not seeing the warriors are doing?

[BoogieTime]

and Sabonis has looked far from Jokic lite, top ten impact in the season, all series. its a bit concerning teams can take away his stuff so easily.

[City of Trees]

Feel like the Kings should be down 30. Technically still in it. Can they wake up?

[City of Trees]

the shooting garbage all series, besides jitters all series is there anything schematically im not seeing the warriors are doing?

Nope. Wide open misses

[City of Trees]

Kings lost this game because they missed wide open shots. That's it. Looney is a force, the Warriors are playing inspired ball, and the referring was expected. Gotta make your shots. If the Kings shoot their averages they would be up right now.