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Post#101 » by BoogieTime » Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:57 pm

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typedrat wrote:I hope he doesn't, because he's absolute dogwater who probably won't ever be good and is definitely multiple years away regardless.


Man, what did he do to you? :lol:

I don't think he would be a bad choice. Definitely a swing for the fences type of pick, but I could understand why they would make the pick.


I've seen enough of these hot prospects with great physical tools and energy but who can't shoot, plan, improvise, handle the ball, or read opposing plays to know how they usually turn out. I don't understand why so many people are lining up for the next Bruno Caboclo.


I didn’t get the Hali reference… does anyone consider him that level of prospect?
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Post#102 » by codydaze » Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:12 pm

Latest Ringer mock has Nikola Topic falling to us at 13. If he's available at that pick then I would definitely take the gamble on him.
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Post#103 » by OxAndFox » Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:37 pm

codydaze wrote:Latest Ringer mock has Nikola Topic falling to us at 13. If he's available at that pick then I would definitely take the gamble on him.


He would be a good pick. Much less if the Kings don't want to get up and down quickly like 22-23, but in an offence that shares the ball, it is a great fit for Topic and he would be good.
There wouldn't be enough room for Fox, Keon, Davion, Topic, Monk, Huerter, Duarte so obviously 2 or 3 of them are gone.
Depends on what they're thinking for Colby. I get the feeling they're trying to do a similar thing with Colby they did with Keon. Move him to the PG position more and get his handle a little better and his shooting. Once the shooting comes around and his handle improves Colby seems to be a mini Josh Hart so I'm thinking he is still here.

That to me looks more like Davion/Huerter would be on the move or if Monk is gone it might be Davion/Duarte.
Fox/Keon
Topic/Huerter
Colby/Vet Min

That wouldn't be a bad mix of guards. Or you get a defender in place of Huerter that can also play the 3.
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Post#104 » by FarBeyondDriven » Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:55 pm

codydaze wrote:Latest Ringer mock has Nikola Topic falling to us at 13. If he's available at that pick then I would definitely take the gamble on him.


that is a laughable embarrassment of a mock. The Ringer is a joke when it comes to NBA draft coverage and opinions. I don't understand how Topic makes much sense. It's the same reason why we didn't draft Luka (besides the fact that he steered his way to DAL) because we already had Fox who needs the ball in his hands to be effective. Like it or not, Fox is our guy and he's proven to be a low-end #1 and we need to build around him and compliment him. I don't see how Topic does that since he's not an off-ball player, he doesn't defend and he's not a lights out shooter. Not to mention he's 19 y/o and has an injury that might mean he can't contribute and we need someone now. Now, if it's bpa, sure, Topic if he's still on the board would probably be bpa and if we were retooling around Sabonis and Fox was potentially on the move then I'd be all about Topic.
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Post#105 » by BoogieTime » Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:04 am

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codydaze wrote:Latest Ringer mock has Nikola Topic falling to us at 13. If he's available at that pick then I would definitely take the gamble on him.


that is a laughable embarrassment of a mock. The Ringer is a joke when it comes to NBA draft coverage and opinions. I don't understand how Topic makes much sense. It's the same reason why we didn't draft Luka (besides the fact that he steered his way to DAL) because we already had Fox who needs the ball in his hands to be effective. Like it or not, Fox is our guy and he's proven to be a low-end #1 and we need to build around him and compliment him. I don't see how Topic does that since he's not an off-ball player, he doesn't defend and he's not a lights out shooter. Not to mention he's 19 y/o and has an injury that might mean he can't contribute and we need someone now. Now, if it's bpa, sure, Topic if he's still on the board would probably be bpa and if we were retooling around Sabonis and Fox was potentially on the move then I'd be all about Topic.


you always take bpa, even if Fox's position was set in stone ( I'm not even getting into that or the "he's our guy" bit). Thanks for pointing the glaring mistake that was first made not picking bpa by Vlade, but you take bpa and work from assets IMO. I haven't even studied Topic or know anything about him, but if Monte feels he's bpa he should draft him.
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Post#106 » by OxAndFox » Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:39 am

Latest mock draft from Bleacher Report is in by Jonathan Wasserman and I must say I don't mind it at all (even if he did have him at #13 prior).

13. Sacramento Kings: Kel’el Ware

Previous Mock Draft Spot: No. 13
Team: Indiana
Position: C
Size: 7’0″, 230 lbs
Age/Year: 20, Sophomore
Nationality: American
Pro Comparison: Brook Lopez
An impressive pro day of shooting has had teams buzzing about Kel’el Ware. Sources say he’s generating realistic consideration in the late lottery.

The narrative about his underwhelming fox has seemingly been squashed.

Ware figures to look highly enticing in a workout setting that can showcase his athleticism at the rim, mobility and high shotmaking skill level.
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Post#107 » by FarBeyondDriven » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:23 am

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codydaze wrote:Latest Ringer mock has Nikola Topic falling to us at 13. If he's available at that pick then I would definitely take the gamble on him.


that is a laughable embarrassment of a mock. The Ringer is a joke when it comes to NBA draft coverage and opinions. I don't understand how Topic makes much sense. It's the same reason why we didn't draft Luka (besides the fact that he steered his way to DAL) because we already had Fox who needs the ball in his hands to be effective. Like it or not, Fox is our guy and he's proven to be a low-end #1 and we need to build around him and compliment him. I don't see how Topic does that since he's not an off-ball player, he doesn't defend and he's not a lights out shooter. Not to mention he's 19 y/o and has an injury that might mean he can't contribute and we need someone now. Now, if it's bpa, sure, Topic if he's still on the board would probably be bpa and if we were retooling around Sabonis and Fox was potentially on the move then I'd be all about Topic.


you always take bpa, even if Fox's position was set in stone ( I'm not even getting into that or the "he's our guy" bit). Thanks for pointing the glaring mistake that was first made not picking bpa by Vlade, but you take bpa and work from assets IMO. I haven't even studied Topic or know anything about him, but if Monte feels he's bpa he should draft him.


when you're rebuilding BPA. When you're trying to make the playoffs and win a playoff series, taking BPA doesn't always make sense. It's bad asset management and poor allocation of resources since that player, even if BPA at that time during the draft, might not be better than your current starter and in this case, would absolutely not be. It wouldn't address the holes we need to fill to compete now.

It was perfectly reasonable for PHO and us to pass on Luka since he can't play off-ball and was a bad shooter
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Post#108 » by FarBeyondDriven » Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:26 am

OxAndFox wrote:Latest mock draft from Bleacher Report is in by Jonathan Wasserman and I must say I don't mind it at all (even if he did have him at #13 prior).

13. Sacramento Kings: Kel’el Ware

Previous Mock Draft Spot: No. 13
Team: Indiana
Position: C
Size: 7’0″, 230 lbs
Age/Year: 20, Sophomore
Nationality: American
Pro Comparison: Brook Lopez
An impressive pro day of shooting has had teams buzzing about Kel’el Ware. Sources say he’s generating realistic consideration in the late lottery.

The narrative about his underwhelming fox has seemingly been squashed.

Ware figures to look highly enticing in a workout setting that can showcase his athleticism at the rim, mobility and high shotmaking skill level.


I like him but would like him much lower better. And he'd force Sabonis to play the 4 which I'm not sure he's suited for both offensively and defensively. But that's okay, it'd also cause problems for opposing defenses in many ways too. It'd be interesting to say the least
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Post#109 » by codydaze » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:19 am

So what are we all feeling we do with the pick? Is it on the move or are we drafting?
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Post#110 » by BoogieTime » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:52 am

codydaze wrote:So what are we all feeling we do with the pick? Is it on the move or are we drafting?


I think it’s forced to draft at this point despite other efforts, and with Monk coming back maybe a front court pairing with Sabonis - possibly center from the workouts I’ve seen
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Post#111 » by OGSactownballer » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:03 am

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codydaze wrote:So what are we all feeling we do with the pick? Is it on the move or are we drafting?


I think it’s forced to draft at this point despite other efforts, and with Monk coming back maybe a front court pairing with Sabonis - possibly center from the workouts I’ve seen


Honestly as it sits right now with no word of anything trade wise?

Draft Ware. You cannot reach seven feet and he has a nice skill set that this staff can work with.

Also don’t forget that any young big we draft will be learning the game from Domas (and Barnes if he’s here who actually is a superior post up offensive guy) and will be able to develop the skills needed for a big in the modern NBA.
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Post#112 » by BoogieTime » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:07 am

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codydaze wrote:So what are we all feeling we do with the pick? Is it on the move or are we drafting?


I think it’s forced to draft at this point despite other efforts, and with Monk coming back maybe a front court pairing with Sabonis - possibly center from the workouts I’ve seen


Honestly as it sits right now with no word of anything trade wise?

Draft Ware. You cannot reach seven feet and he has a nice skill set that this staff can work with.

Also don’t forget that any young big we draft will be learning the game from Domas (and Barnes if he’s here who actually is a superior post up offensive guy) and will be able to develop the skills needed for a big in the modern NBA.


From the workouts, I expect Ware as much anyone, with Edey gone. I haven’t studied him, I hear he’s got some talent with motor issues (WCS….). I liked what I saw from small footage of Filipowski but doesn’t look an option
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Post#113 » by BoogieTime » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:24 am

We’re still in trade talks with Nets/Wizards. We know who we want from Washington but Bkn?
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Post#114 » by codydaze » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:26 am

Kel'el Ware, Tristan Da Silva or Dalton Knecht are my predictions if we keep the pick. I'm staying off twitter to avoid spoilers so I'm not sure if anything has come out about our plans yet.
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Post#115 » by donkeylips » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:27 am

did not expect that pick
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Post#116 » by BoogieTime » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:27 am

Carter… one of the options I didn’t mind if forced to keep the pick
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Post#117 » by BoogieTime » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:29 am

Monte is 4 for 4 in picks I generally agreed with if this sticks
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Post#118 » by BoogieTime » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:33 am

BoogieTime wrote:Monte is 4 for 4 in picks I generally agreed with if this sticks


Agreed with as prospects, roster construction at this point is imbalanced
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Post#119 » by typedrat » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:34 am

The stars are not wanted now; put out every one,
Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun,
Pour away the ocean and sweep up the wood;
For nothing now can ever come to any good.
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Post#120 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:34 am

Time for Monte to go. I'm absolutely done. Yea, we need another 22 year old rookie 6'2 guard because Davion could be gone.

This is gross.

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