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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1121 » by OGSactownballer » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:53 pm

Vivek needs to learn already to sign the damn checks and butt out of operations.

It’s unfortunate that I don’t see Buddy getting his head around the fact that he can easily be the SMOTY in the Lou Williams vein of being instant guaranteed bench offense and in the finishing lineup playing at least 30 mpg. Part of building depth is building those caliber of guys on your bench as well.
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Post#1122 » by kalenclayton » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:40 pm

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City of Trees wrote:Sam Amick confirms the trade market for Buddy Hield is non-existing. No one wants Buddy for that price tag. More than likely the Kings are stuck with him. Crap.

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Buddy’s trade market is now the least of my concerns. The tidbit that Amick mentioned about Vivek’s continued meddling that may be going on is frightening.


Yeah, that's very concerning if Vivek and his son is meddling again.

I thought for the most part, ever since that Cousins' trade, Vivek has taken a hands off approach and let Vlade and his men do all of the major decisions.

But as we all know, Vlade F'd up in almost every GM decision and especially with the Luka/Bagley draft, I can see how Vivek feels he needs to step in.

Man, when are we going to get a break?? This franchise is cursed lol

This is the part that is equal parts understandable and infuriating. It really appears that Vivek gave Vlade free reign, or at least close to it. It backfired greatly and he is paying the price. It’s understandable for Vivek to be apprehensive when giving power to another person. The problem is that he hired another person. If he wanted to do the job, then he should’ve just stepped in and said that he was the GM. Look, I think Vivek is a brilliant mind and he’s done an amazing job with the Kings off the court. He just needs to realize that he can’t helicopter parent his GM. Let McNair (or whoever else plays GM) do his job!
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1123 » by OGSactownballer » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:46 pm

It seems that he may have learned to make a better choice of employee that is not based on a popularity contest in Sac but rather in competence.
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1124 » by dozencousins » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:35 pm

Kings are most likey gping to trade Buddy . I know of quit a few teams we are talking to . I do not want to go into any frame work simply because they would be to incomplete and I do not want to claim to kno wmore frame work than I actually know .

We are talking traded were it is Kings and another team and we have talked 3 & 4 team trade deals

We have talked with The following teams : Knicks , Pacers , Rockets , Nets , Pistons , Hornets , Wizards , Mavs , Cavs , Magic , Bulls & Spurs . As you can see to many teams for me to go into any reall parts . I only know very little right now in terms of what players mostly . I only know of a few players and I do not wish to guess .
I can say we aare working the phones hard and listening to many possible deals .

I can say a couple of 3 team talks are with the Nets & Rockets --- Wizards & Rockets -----


I may end up being wrong but I really feel we will trade Buddy & keep Bogi

Hope I am right !
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1125 » by wco81 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:42 am

How far are the Kings willing to go to shed Buddy's contract, in order to be able to keep Bogie?

Given up a FRP in either the 2021 or 2022 draft, which are both suppose to be loaded?

I wouldn't think so but it's a big contract for a player who performed badly last year.
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1126 » by kalenclayton » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:56 am

wco81 wrote:How far are the Kings willing to go to shed Buddy's contract, in order to be able to keep Bogie?

Given up a FRP in either the 2021 or 2022 draft, which are both suppose to be loaded?

I wouldn't think so but it's a big contract for a player who performed badly last year.

I absolutely would NOT give up a future first to do that. Those two drafts will be critical for this team. I love Bogi, but not that much. I would not be willing to pay much to trade Buddy. If we can’t get neutral value back, then I’m fine sticking with him.
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Post#1127 » by BoogieTime » Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:18 am

wco81 wrote:How far are the Kings willing to go to shed Buddy's contract, in order to be able to keep Bogie?

Given up a FRP in either the 2021 or 2022 draft, which are both suppose to be loaded?

I wouldn't think so but it's a big contract for a player who performed badly last year.


They aren’t paying to unload Buddy

Even if Buddy didn’t exist, Bogdan arguably shouldn’t be making 18 a year, and team through Amick has let it known they want to build with youth
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Post#1128 » by SacKingZZZ » Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:33 am

wco81 wrote:How far are the Kings willing to go to shed Buddy's contract, in order to be able to keep Bogie?

Given up a FRP in either the 2021 or 2022 draft, which are both suppose to be loaded?

I wouldn't think so but it's a big contract for a player who performed badly last year.


He didn't perform badly last year. Not really. His coach was an idiot who didn't know what he had but even so he still put up nearly 20 points in only 30 minutes. Teams better be looking at sending a first the other way if they want him. And that's just to start.
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Post#1129 » by OGSactownballer » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:49 am

wco81 wrote:How far are the Kings willing to go to shed Buddy's contract, in order to be able to keep Bogie?

Given up a FRP in either the 2021 or 2022 draft, which are both suppose to be loaded?

I wouldn't think so but it's a big contract for a player who performed badly last year.


Yeah seriously you are talking one of the top 3-5 shooters in the game right now.

I’d sooner keep him and bulk up his value to where it should be. Before his contract was signed it was a tossup as to whether he or Jaylen Brown would get more money.
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1130 » by City of Trees » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:14 am

I would lose trust with McNair if he trades a 1st to move Buddy.
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1131 » by wco81 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:28 am

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wco81 wrote:How far are the Kings willing to go to shed Buddy's contract, in order to be able to keep Bogie?

Given up a FRP in either the 2021 or 2022 draft, which are both suppose to be loaded?

I wouldn't think so but it's a big contract for a player who performed badly last year.


Yeah seriously you are talking one of the top 3-5 shooters in the game right now.

I’d sooner keep him and bulk up his value to where it should be. Before his contract was signed it was a tossup as to whether he or Jaylen Brown would get more money.



I'm not saying he should do it. Just that some have expressed that they can't let Bogi walk for nothing.

But if you match the offer sheet he signed, then it's a lot of money committed to 3 guards and then you also have to find playing and development time for Haliburton as well.

Of course he'll get minutes and lets say he turns out to be a real good player, who commands 25-30 minutes by at least his second season, if not during his rookie season. Are the Kings going to keep paying Bogdan and Buddy almost $40 million combined until one of them is in the final year of their contract to trade one of them?

By that time, Halliburton would be looking to get paid but a year before, Bagley would be up for an extension.

Paying all these players wouldn't be a problem if the Kings were winning around 50 games a year and guaranteed of a playoff birth during their contracts.

They'd have to have some big improvement though, especially BAgley playing a lot of games and having impact.
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Post#1132 » by kalenclayton » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:35 am

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wco81 wrote:How far are the Kings willing to go to shed Buddy's contract, in order to be able to keep Bogie?

Given up a FRP in either the 2021 or 2022 draft, which are both suppose to be loaded?

I wouldn't think so but it's a big contract for a player who performed badly last year.


Yeah seriously you are talking one of the top 3-5 shooters in the game right now.

I’d sooner keep him and bulk up his value to where it should be. Before his contract was signed it was a tossup as to whether he or Jaylen Brown would get more money.



I'm not saying he should do it. Just that some have expressed that they can't let Bogi walk for nothing.

But if you match the offer sheet he signed, then it's a lot of money committed to 3 guards and then you also have to find playing and development time for Haliburton as well.

Of course he'll get minutes and lets say he turns out to be a real good player, who commands 25-30 minutes by at least his second season, if not during his rookie season. Are the Kings going to keep paying Bogdan and Buddy almost $40 million combined until one of them is in the final year of their contract to trade one of them?

By that time, Halliburton would be looking to get paid but a year before, Bagley would be up for an extension.

Paying all these players wouldn't be a problem if the Kings were winning around 50 games a year and guaranteed of a playoff birth during their contracts.

They'd have to have some big improvement though, especially BAgley playing a lot of games and having impact.

I highly doubt the Kings match. Even if they somehow do, then they will trade one of Bogi/Buddy within the next year. They wouldn’t hold onto them like you said. Paying any picks to dump Buddy is absolutely inexcusable though. This team will not be making the playoffs. A team like that does not pay to get players off the books.
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1133 » by OGSactownballer » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:36 pm

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Yeah seriously you are talking one of the top 3-5 shooters in the game right now.

I’d sooner keep him and bulk up his value to where it should be. Before his contract was signed it was a tossup as to whether he or Jaylen Brown would get more money.



I'm not saying he should do it. Just that some have expressed that they can't let Bogi walk for nothing.

But if you match the offer sheet he signed, then it's a lot of money committed to 3 guards and then you also have to find playing and development time for Haliburton as well.

Of course he'll get minutes and lets say he turns out to be a real good player, who commands 25-30 minutes by at least his second season, if not during his rookie season. Are the Kings going to keep paying Bogdan and Buddy almost $40 million combined until one of them is in the final year of their contract to trade one of them?

By that time, Halliburton would be looking to get paid but a year before, Bagley would be up for an extension.

Paying all these players wouldn't be a problem if the Kings were winning around 50 games a year and guaranteed of a playoff birth during their contracts.

They'd have to have some big improvement though, especially BAgley playing a lot of games and having impact.

I highly doubt the Kings match. Even if they somehow do, then they will trade one of Bogi/Buddy within the next year. They wouldn’t hold onto them like you said. Paying any picks to dump Buddy is absolutely inexcusable though. This team will not be making the playoffs. A team like that does not pay to get players off the books.


This.

The only way that a first is included in any outgoing Buddy trade is if we are improving. So an all-star caliber player (based on the fact that Buddy at his best is borderline) coming back is what it would take to make that ok for me.
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1134 » by skywalker33 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:37 pm

Hard to see you just giving up a good asset like Bogdan and the clock is ticking, heard of any offers coming your way ? Bet they diminish as the clock gets closer to midnight....
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Exactly as I've been saying all along !!
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1135 » by dozencousins » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:35 pm

Update :


Do not know for sure what will happen

Names coming up in trade talks today in regards to Buddy are A. Drummond , M.Turner .
Also We have talked with Dallas , New York , Orlando

We have also talked again 3 way deals with Houston & the 76ers as well as Houston and Washington as well as Houston and the Nets .

We had some talks with Charlotte as well .
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1136 » by dozencousins » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:45 pm

Kings would be smart to pick up & sign Jordan Bell . He plays great defense !
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Post#1137 » by LightTheBeam » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:07 am

My trade targets that I would move Buddy for -

Julius Randle - Don't love him but 4 mil guaranteed for next year. And if Bagley ends up missing some time, I wouldn't mind having an interior presence.

THJ - All depends on what Dallas plans are for 2021. It sounds like they want to keep salary open for next season, but i could see them wanting to add an elite shooter for Doncic. Doncic - Buddy - Richardson - Porz - Maxi is a pretty damn good lineup.

Huerter - If we match Bogdan, then we could still look to flip Buddy to them. Huerter would be a nice cheap piece that wouldnt complain about a bench role.

OKC for cap space? I doubt they would take him because hes a bit older than what is needed. But it would make some sense to put an elite shooter next to SGA.
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1138 » by dozencousins » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:14 am

Trade still could happen but as of now it is not looking to promising .

That is also in regards to Bogi right now as well .
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1139 » by dozencousins » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:05 am

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The Sacramento Kings have declined to match the Atlanta Hawks’ four-year, $72 million offer sheet for restricted free agent guard Bogdan Bogdanovic, sources tell ESPN.

Damn !
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Re: Kings Trade Thread 

Post#1140 » by kalenclayton » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:23 am

Poor asset management. KANGZ

I don’t agree with it, but I understand what Monte is preaching. Vlade really F’d this up.

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