Trade Idea Thread 15-16

[City of Trees]

Chris Sheridan reported that we are making Rudy Gay available in trade talks and there is a Gay for Ryan Anderson swap on the table. Thoughts? I think this would work out really well for us. Move Casspi into the starting 3 spot with Anderson starting. We'd definitely need to get some depth at 3. I wonder if there's any free agents out there that would be worth looking at.

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I dislike this. I'd rather have Rudy at the 3 and WCS starting at the 4. Ryno should be a primary target in the off season as he is a local guy in free agency as a high minute reserve.

Be patient Vlade, we need at least one more year before we make the jump

Maybe it's not a matter of being patient? Maybe Vlade doesn't like Gay's game and wants to move on. Kings save money in the deal and keep their options open for FA next summer

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[City of Trees]

Barnes is the Del Campo guy, not Ryno. I played with Matt actually too.

Ryno was Oakmont, right?

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Oakridge I think

I was a seinor when Barnes was a freshman, then left the country for awhile, so was out of the local loop for years after that.

That's right! I had the Oak part down lol

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[blind prophet]

Chris Sheridan reported that we are making Rudy Gay available in trade talks and there is a Gay for Ryan Anderson swap on the table. Thoughts? I think this would work out really well for us. Move Casspi into the starting 3 spot with Anderson starting. We'd definitely need to get some depth at 3. I wonder if there's any free agents out there that would be worth looking at.

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I dislike this. I'd rather have Rudy at the 3 and WCS starting at the 4. Ryno should be a primary target in the off season as he is a local guy in free agency as a high minute reserve.

Be patient Vlade, we need at least one more year before we make the jump

Maybe it's not a matter of being patient? Maybe Vlade doesn't like Gay's game and wants to move on. Kings save money in the deal and keep their options open for FA next summer

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I still think you can get more value for Rudy even if that's the case. Ryno if he really wants to be here can come as a signing, be better off with some assets for Rudy more so than a possible rental, or picks too etc.

[City of Trees]

I already said Rudy is worth more than Ryno... But the value here is fair so there isn't much to complain about other than Anderson is expiring, which everyone feels chances he resigns are better than usual.

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[dozencousins]

Chris Sheridan reported that we are making Rudy Gay available in trade talks and there is a Gay for Ryan Anderson swap on the table. Thoughts? I think this would work out really well for us. Move Casspi into the starting 3 spot with Anderson starting. We'd definitely need to get some depth at 3. I wonder if there's any free agents out there that would be worth looking at.

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I dislike this. I'd rather have Rudy at the 3 and WCS starting at the 4. Ryno should be a primary target in the off season as he is a local guy in free agency as a high minute reserve.

Be patient Vlade, we need at least one more year before we make the jump

Maybe it's not a matter of being patient? Maybe Vlade doesn't like Gay's game and wants to move on. Kings save money in the deal and keep their options open for FA next summer

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3 reasons for GAY being traded this season are the following .

#1 Oustide of Cuz & R R. Gay is the biggest name we have with the best cap friendly contract & it's very attractive to many teams looking for a scorer .
# 2 Why we would trade him simply because he plays no defense . No matter how good of a scorer you are if you play no " D " you cost them team more points than that of you score . The way Gay plays Defense is almost like letting the player walk to the basket . His defensive game is not there . The Kings overall defense is week but out of our starting 5 his is by far the worst .
Odd thing is Karl has had alot of good defensive minded players whom come off the bench . C. Stein , Acie ( whom has been starting of late ) S. Curry plays D to mention a few of .
# 3 Casspi : With Casspi's play of late overall makes Gay more expendable . It is not to question whom is better He or Gay it's to say whom can you trade to get better value in return to help this team right now .

Keep in mind we may owe the Bulls our 1st pick is lottery bound ? We can also just as well owe a swap with phily if we ended up with a higher pick .

Anderson also being a Sac native is also a HUGE selling point for season tickets for the new arena not to mention jersey sales etc.
That all aside from the fact that Anderson's overall game is better than Gay's .

Gay is almost guaranteed to be traded this season most likely teams are Pelicans & Bulls though many other teams will inquire .

[blind prophet]

3 reasons for GAY being traded this season are the following .

#1 Oustide of Cuz & R R. Gay is the biggest name we have with the best cap friendly contract & it's very attractive to many teams looking for a scorer .
# 2 Why we would trade him simply because he plays no defense . No matter how good of a scorer you are if you play no " D " you cost them team more points than that of you score . The way Gay plays Defense is almost like letting the player walk to the basket . His defensive game is not there . The Kings overall defense is week but out of our starting 5 his is by far the worst .
Odd thing is Karl has had alot of good defensive minded players whom come off the bench . C. Stein , Acie ( whom has been starting of late ) S. Curry plays D to mention a few of .
# 3 Casspi : With Casspi's play of late overall makes Gay more expendable . It is not to question whom is better He or Gay it's to say whom can you trade to get better value in return to help this team right now .

Keep in mind we may owe the Bulls our 1st pick is lottery bound ? We can also just as well owe a swap with phily if we ended up with a higher pick .

Anderson also being a Sac native is also a HUGE selling point for season tickets for the new arena not to mention jersey sales etc.
That all aside from the fact that Anderson's overall game is better than Gay's .

Gay is almost guaranteed to be traded this season most likely teams are Pelicans & Bulls though many other teams will inquire .

Terrible decision moving Rudy for an expiring. No guarantees. Rudy is a positive trade value asset, and we are not going to contend, so why rush it for an "unknown"?

If Anderson wants to play here chase him in the off season.

No matter what you think of Rudy his value is net positive, get something in the hand that is tangible for certain beyond a rental.

[dozencousins]

3 reasons for GAY being traded this season are the following .

#1 Oustide of Cuz & R R. Gay is the biggest name we have with the best cap friendly contract & it's very attractive to many teams looking for a scorer .
# 2 Why we would trade him simply because he plays no defense . No matter how good of a scorer you are if you play no " D " you cost them team more points than that of you score . The way Gay plays Defense is almost like letting the player walk to the basket . His defensive game is not there . The Kings overall defense is week but out of our starting 5 his is by far the worst .
Odd thing is Karl has had alot of good defensive minded players whom come off the bench . C. Stein , Acie ( whom has been starting of late ) S. Curry plays D to mention a few of .
# 3 Casspi : With Casspi's play of late overall makes Gay more expendable . It is not to question whom is better He or Gay it's to say whom can you trade to get better value in return to help this team right now .

Keep in mind we may owe the Bulls our 1st pick is lottery bound ? We can also just as well owe a swap with phily if we ended up with a higher pick .

Anderson also being a Sac native is also a HUGE selling point for season tickets for the new arena not to mention jersey sales etc.
That all aside from the fact that Anderson's overall game is better than Gay's .

Gay is almost guaranteed to be traded this season most likely teams are Pelicans & Bulls though many other teams will inquire .

Terrible decision moving Rudy for an expiring. No guarantees. Rudy is a positive trade value asset, and we are not going to contend, so why rush it for an "unknown"?

If Anderson wants to play here chase him in the off season.

No matter what you think of Rudy his value is net positive, get something in the hand that is tangible for certain beyond a rental.

1st I am not saying Gay is a bad player or anything . I like him and like him a lot as a player .
That said in no way would Anderson be a rental it's been Anderson's life long dream to play for the Kings .
If the Kings trade for him then we will resign him I have no doubt about that at all .
If you take a players overall game then Anderson is the better overall player .
Also the odds are it would not be a 1 for 1 deal their would be fillers of some sort .

[bleeds_purple]

Lately I've been thinking we'd be better off spreading his minutes to McLemore, Butler, and Anderson. We'd be better defensively and perhaps McLemore could start to gain some consistency with more touches.

I don't think you can consider Rudy as a positive asset at this point in his career. He's a SF that can't dribble, pass, or defend, with the lowest BBIQ I think I've ever seen. Ryan Anderson would be a pipe dream and to be perfectly honest I'd be willing to settle for far less.

Maybe we can dump him on Houston. I'd be interested in Ariza, Brewer, and Jones. Another avenue to explore is with Chicago. Gibson and Snell would be a nice return. Miami would be a nice option for Deng and McRoberts but I doubt Riley wants any part of Gay and it ties their cap space so its a no go. I would also explore options with the Clippers. I'd happily deal him for some combination of Johnson, Smith, and Stephenson. Could also look at something with Phoenix involving Morris and Tucker.

[SacKingZZZ]

I like Anderson, but a straight swap for Rudy is a loss talent wise for the Kings. No question.

[PetrieUnderstudy]

I'm a season ticket holder but don't go to all the games. The last four games I've gone to...TWolves, Blazers, Sixers, and Pelicans. Possibly 4 worst home losses this year. Don't blame me. This team is infuriating to support because of their inconsistent performance and effort. They need to do something.

Darren Collison & Ben McLemore to Hawks for Dennis Schroder & Thabo Sefolosha

Rudy Gay to Pelicans for Ryan Anderson

Marco Bellinelli, Caron Butler & James Anderson to Grizzlies for Courtney Lee & Matt Barnes

The team becomes much tougher, more defensive and brings to local guys home in Anderson & Barnes.

Rajon Rondo/Dennis Schroder/Seth Curry
Courtney Lee/Thabo Sefolosha
Omri Casspi/Matt Barnes
Ryan Anderson/Willie Cauley-Stein/Quincy Acy
DeMarcus Cousins/Kosta Koufos

[OhioKingsFan]

I'd prefer less sweeping changes. There is clearly a need to improve the SG spot, I'd start with a move there. The right 25-30 mpg player can make a team look totally different, I don't think we need to blow it up.

[City of Trees]

Koufus/Collison for Ariza/Beverley anyone?

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[OhioKingsFan]

If the Kings are making a trade with NOP, I'd target Eric Gordon before Ryno. Between Rudy Gay, Omri, WCS, and Acy, I really like the guys we have playing forward minutes next to Cuz. SG is a question mark.

Marco, BMac, Curry (who I think will opt out this summer anyway) for Eric Gordon? I think he'd fit in great with a dribble-drive offense. He can handle the ball, drive, shoot spot-up 3's, and passes pretty well. He's not going to improve our perimeter defense, but he won't make it any worse. I also like this deal because it simplifies the offseason. The Kings can resign Rondo and EG (I wouldn't be surprised to see both start at about $15M p/yr), and with the rest of the core players locked in, the Kings can spend the MLE on a defensive SG without worrying about their offensive game. DMC, Gay, EG, Rondo, Casspi, and DC should be able to score enough points.

Boogie/Kosta
WCS/Acy (with Gay/Casspi playing both forward spots for extended minutes, especially when Cuz sits)
Gay/Casspi
Eric Gordon/Anderson (DC getting most of the minutes here when EG sits)
Rondo/DC

[OhioKingsFan]

I'd be very happy with Koufus/DC for Ariza/P Beverley, but I'm not sure Houston would do it. They'd be pretty empty at SF.

[sportscrazy]

Chicago gets:
Rudy Gay
Kosta Koufos
Caron Butler

New Orleans gets:
Doug McDermott
Ben McLemore
Joakim Noah

Sacramento gets:
Eric Gordon
Taj Gibson
Their Own 2016 Conditional First Round Draft Pick via Chicago

[codydaze]

Chicago gets:
Rudy Gay
Kosta Koufos
Caron Butler

New Orleans gets:
Doug McDermott
Ben McLemore
Joakim Noah

Sacramento gets:
Eric Gordon
Taj Gibson
Their Own 2016 Conditional First Round Draft Pick via Chicago

Hard pass from the Kings. We give up Gay, Koufos, Butler AND Mclemore for Gibson and Gordon? No thank you. The first isn't worth it imo.

[sportscrazy]

Chicago gets:
Rudy Gay
Kosta Koufos
Caron Butler

New Orleans gets:
Doug McDermott
Ben McLemore
Joakim Noah

Sacramento gets:
Eric Gordon
Taj Gibson
Their Own 2016 Conditional First Round Draft Pick via Chicago

Hard pass from the Kings. We give up Gay, Koufos, Butler AND Mclemore for Gibson and Gordon? No thank you. The first isn't worth it imo.

Yeah I just figured the two additional roster spots would be a minor incentive as well.

[dozencousins]

As I had mentioned January 1st via this thread 2 weeks before any mention via internet / twitter etc. we were in talks with N.O. in regards to Anderson & Gordon we are still in active talks with N.O. but other teams as well .
We will make a move relatively soon though I can't say when as of now but I will say Divac is determined to make a move very soon because it is expected that based on the first move there will be at least 1 more move / trade Divac will do and he based on the first move will need to address any needs we have for the second . He is determined as he should be to get us into the playoffs this season as he should be

There is a possibilty Gay to the Bulls involving a deal with Gibson & Dermott however it is possibly though lesser likely a bigger deal involving Gasol as well . I know the Bulls have contacted us directly and have mentioned all 3 of those names in deals with us all involving Gay .

I am 90% certain if we do any trade this season Gay will be traded if he is not then we will likely not trade at all this season or only trade very small pieces such as Butler & Anderson .

Most likely traded Kings are :

Gay
Butler
Anderson
Belleneli
Colison

Lesser likely but may be dealt are :

Maclemore
Koufas
Curry
( right to ) Moreland

Most likely kept

Rondo
Casspi
Acie
Cauley Stein
Dukan

Guaranteed to keep barring him blowing up big time

Cousins

I may be wrong but I believe we will get our first trade this season completed by Feb 1st we will see

[City of Trees]

As I had mentioned January 1st via this thread 2 weeks before any mention via internet / twitter etc. we were in talks with N.O. in regards to Anderson & Gordon we are still in active talks with N.O. but other teams as well .
We will make a move relatively soon though I can't say when as of now but I will say Divac is determined to make a move very soon because it is expected that based on the first move there will be at least 1 more move / trade Divac will do and he based on the first move will need to address any needs we have for the second . He is determined as he should be to get us into the playoffs this season as he should be

There is a possibilty Gay to the Bulls involving a deal with Gibson & Dermott however it is possibly though lesser likely a bigger deal involving Gasol as well . I know the Bulls have contacted us directly and have mentioned all 3 of those names in deals with us all involving Gay .

I am 90% certain if we do any trade this season Gay will be traded if he is not then we will likely not trade at all this season or only trade very small pieces such as Butler & Anderson .

Most likely traded Kings are :

Gay
Butler
Anderson
Belleneli
Colison

Lesser likely but may be dealt are :

Maclemore
Koufas
Curry
( right to ) Moreland

Most likely kept

Rondo
Casspi
Acie
Cauley Stein
Dukan

Guaranteed to keep barring him blowing up big time

Cousins

I may be wrong but I believe we will get our first trade this season completed by Feb 1st we will see

If you wanna be the inside source here it would help if you spelled the players names correctly ... Interesting info here...

Gay for Gibson and McDermott doesn't fix our defensive issues. I'm ok with the bigs, its our guards that need upgrading. I'd pass on Gibson at this point WCS looks outstanding and filled that need.

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[dozencousins]

As I had mentioned January 1st via this thread 2 weeks before any mention via internet / twitter etc. we were in talks with N.O. in regards to Anderson & Gordon we are still in active talks with N.O. but other teams as well .
We will make a move relatively soon though I can't say when as of now but I will say Divac is determined to make a move very soon because it is expected that based on the first move there will be at least 1 more move / trade Divac will do and he based on the first move will need to address any needs we have for the second . He is determined as he should be to get us into the playoffs this season as he should be

There is a possibilty Gay to the Bulls involving a deal with Gibson & Dermott however it is possibly though lesser likely a bigger deal involving Gasol as well . I know the Bulls have contacted us directly and have mentioned all 3 of those names in deals with us all involving Gay .

I am 90% certain if we do any trade this season Gay will be traded if he is not then we will likely not trade at all this season or only trade very small pieces such as Butler & Anderson .

Most likely traded Kings are :

Gay
Butler
Anderson
Belleneli
Colison

Lesser likely but may be dealt are :

Maclemore
Koufas
Curry
( right to ) Moreland

Most likely kept

Rondo
Casspi
Acie
Cauley Stein
Dukan

Guaranteed to keep barring him blowing up big time

Cousins

I may be wrong but I believe we will get our first trade this season completed by Feb 1st we will see

If you wanna be the inside source here it would help if you spelled the players names correctly ... Interesting info here...

Gay for Gibson and McDermott doesn't fix our defensive issues. I'm ok with the bigs, its our guards that need upgrading. I'd pass on Gibson at this point WCS looks outstanding and filled that need.

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Wow great insult about spelling . You come here to insult be more respectful & have more class than that !
I simply spelled names fast as I am very busy & made honest spelling mistakes typing to fast so what ?
Is that what your on this board for to criticize others on spelling really ? Very uncalled for & so what .
As per inside source you don;t want info I won't give it no big deal .