Draft Thread - Kings move up to #4

[rpa]

A former Thunder scout believe it's more likely Banchero or Ivey could be his guy (and he looks pretty sure Sacramento won't pick at 4, don't aks me how/why).

I can buy the Banchero hype. His playmaking ability fits pretty much anywhere. I'm less convinced they'd want Ivey. It's basically a (slightly) better shooting Russ w/o the rebounding and (most importantly) playmaking.

I'll throw out an under the radar option: Daniels. You get the playmaking ability that would come from Banchero, but a possible lockdown defender who's tall enough to play in a 3-guard backcourt with Shai & Giddey.

[Dadouv47]

Reports say OKC loves Ivey. Also they already have a similar player to Chet in Poku. Presti would balance Fit and BPA. Ivey is possibly close to Chet in the evaluation?

Eh, they are sitting there with Giddey and SGA, I'd still need to hear more than Ham's blurb that they would trade out of that (much more). Reports on wiretap already saying that OKC is expecting to pick him 2.

Layers upon layers of decisions are made who knows how everything will play out. I'm not predicting the trade Hamm mentioned will happen, but it sounds like it's a possibility.
You can easily find other information on this besides wiretap

Same rumors around here. This is actually the only trade that makes sense for OKC if they don't want to draft Chet (I would still rather pick the guy Presti wants at #2 though).

[LightTheBeam]

Dyson Daniels a 1-2-3 player with good size and a weaker shot. Will he be the next Josh Giddey or the next Dante Exum?

[City of Trees]

Dyson Daniels a 1-2-3 player with good size and a weaker shot. Will he be the next Josh Giddey or the next Dante Exum?

Some scouts are floating Hali/Giddey comps. It's been a wild week for Daniels. He looks like the draft workout riser.

[LightTheBeam]

Dyson Daniels a 1-2-3 player with good size and a weaker shot. Will he be the next Josh Giddey or the next Dante Exum?

Some scouts are floating Hali/Giddey comps. It's been a wild week for Daniels. He looks like the draft workout riser.

Hali without a shot? Hali has a weird form, but even in college both years he shot over 40% from 3, and the 2nd year he was a 82% ft shooter.

Daniels 3pt shooting numbers don't look good (small sample size) but his ft shooting numbers aren't good at all either.

[City of Trees]

Dyson Daniels a 1-2-3 player with good size and a weaker shot. Will he be the next Josh Giddey or the next Dante Exum?

Some scouts are floating Hali/Giddey comps. It's been a wild week for Daniels. He looks like the draft workout riser.

Hali without a shot? Hali has a weird form, but even in college both years he shot over 40% from 3, and the 2nd year he was a 82% ft shooter.

Daniels 3pt shooting numbers don't look good (small sample size) but his ft shooting numbers aren't good at all either.

Oh I laughed when I saw the comp

[jazanetti]

If moving up we have to grab Banchero.
Guy is ready for NBA while has a lot of potential.
Chet have 50/50 chance to be a unicorn or fight with injuries during his hole career like Porzi. Speaking about Ingram comparison, Brandon was far more athletic while also being two years away from being two years away from NBA ready. He became solid player on his 4th year in the league.

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[City of Trees]

Fun bit of data:

From the 2010 to 2018 draft (9 drafts--the final one being the guys that are due for extensions by this summer) I count 12 guards, 12 wings, and 21 bigs* taken in the top 5 picks (so 45 total players).

Of those 12 each the wings and guards yielded 6 all-stars apiece* for an average hit rate of 50%.

Ask me how many of the bigs made the all star team. Go ahead ASK ME!! 5* (that's a 24% hit rate)

Yeah, despite having 75% more total players they yielded fewer allstars. And when you look at that list the first thing that sticks out is that 2 of them were clear #1 picks in their year, a 3rd would have probably gone #1 if not for an injury (Embiid), and a 4th had an argument for #1 but for his attitude (big Cuz). So what's the point? Well, based on recent history you probably shouldn't be drafting a big in the top 5. If you do draft a big in the top 5 it better either be at #1 and/or a guy who has a really clear argument for #1.

* First caveat: Some of the bigs cold possibly go into the wings category since they have an argument for being able to play the 3 (but this isn't many of them.

* Guards: Wall, Kyrie, Beal, Oladipo, Russell, Young; wings: Wiggins, Simmons, Ingram, Brown, Tatum, Doncic

* Bigs: Cousins, Embiid, KAT, Porzingis, Davis

awesome post!

[FarBeyondDriven]

I have a feeling Sharpe would refuse to come here. Not being crazy about the alternatives at #4 I wish there was a way to trade back and pick up another first. Maybe get Duren/Williams AND Eason. I really want a shot blocking, rim-running 5 to put next to Sabonis but also a 3 and D wing to replace Barnes. If we could pull that off I'd be very optimistic about keeping Sabonis and our chances over the next few seasons. If Fox can perfect the high screen action with the bigs and penetrate/kick off that to shooters it'd be ideal.

[City of Trees]

I have a feeling Sharpe would refuse to come here.

According to Ham Sharpe has already completed interviews and a private workout with Sacramento. Also Sharpe's H.S. coach was on ESPN 1320 making a case for Sharpe.

[BoogieTime]

Vecenie is high on Ivey as well, and sees this as a top 4 draft now, as do a lot of talking heads.

I dont think Ivey is going to jump, as hes a SG, and SGA/Green/Suggs (neither Suggs or Ivey are lead playmakers) or even Cole in Orlando.

Its boosting the stock of 4 at least. He has a dynamism to him that makes me think he won't bust, so many teams should be interested

[FarBeyondDriven]

I have a feeling Sharpe would refuse to come here.

According to Ham Sharpe has already completed interviews and a private workout with Sacramento. Also Sharpe's H.S. coach was on ESPN 1320 making a case for Sharpe.

That's great news. I wish I wasn't so pessimistic and maybe I'm basing this on my unsubstantiated feelings about Sharpe and how he handled Kentucky.

[BoogieTime]

Vecenie is high on Ivey as well, and sees this as a top 4 draft now, as do a lot of talking heads.

I dont think Ivey is going to jump, as hes a SG, and SGA/Green/Suggs (neither Suggs or Ivey are lead playmakers) or even Cole in Orlando.

Its boosting the stock of 4 at least. He has a dynamism to him that makes me think he won't bust, so many teams should be interested

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I think we are moving into a place where many think of it as a top 4 now. That raises the stock of 4 considerably

[City of Trees]

Jabari Smith Jr arrived in Sacramento yesterday. Was posted on his IG story

[LightTheBeam]

Jabari Smith Jr arrived in Sacramento yesterday. Was posted on his IG story

I am praying that the Magic fall in love with Chet (GM is known to like those skinny lanky guys), and that the rumor about Kings trading to 2 are true.

6'10, hits 3's, and plays defense? This is the kind of player every team needs another one of.

[Lost in LA]

Miami could have used him tonight for sure..

[BoogieTime]

I don't know if trading up in this draft for next years pick, if even possible, speaks to a win now organization/owner/GM, as much as trading back for something significant, picking up Murray at 6, and dealing next year's pick for a third win now piece (or trading down or out multiple times or for a star). The organization would have to be in love with some prospect up top

[OxAndFox]

I really hope if they are trading up to #2 it's for Jabari.

[City of Trees]

The rumor is OKC would trade down because they want Jabari but he is off the board...

[BoogieTime]

Knicks eyeing Ivey, as a lot of teams will...