2024-25 General Thread

[Jkam31]

Just piggy backing on my other post at the other thread —

What do you guys think on what should the starting 5 be entering next season?

Fox & Sabonis are locks for obvious reasons. Keegan is another automatic lock as well. Same goes for DDR.

So the question is should Monk get the nod at the 2? Or should the Kings build off what Keon produced at the 2 last season?

For me, I like what Keon brings to the table at the 2 spot. Inserting Monk in an already offensively minded starting unit would be redundant, imo. Keon brings a defensive energy and general “plug & play” role that can easily be seen as a plus with the starting unit.

So, for me, I don’t mind seeing:

Fox
Keon
DDR
Keegan
Sabonis

Having Monk, Huerter & Lyles off the bench is very solid. That is a steady 8-man rotation.

Would have to agree regarding Monk and Keon. I wouldn't be completely against giving Monk the opportunity, but it feels like with DDR it would be tough to get enough shots between them all.

If we start monk we deserve to lose would be malpractice actually. We saw the defense change with Ellis even if he starts and plays 20mpg he has to start and if they think he can’t start then give Brooklyn that first and start Cam. Worst case start Huerter, gives us an elite shooter who doesn’t need the ball. Starting three ball handlers and Sabonis and leaving none of them for the bench is mind boggling to me. Ellis balences out the lineup and having Monk/Hurter off the bench gives us serious offense when we go to the bench

[codydaze]

Yeah, I know Monk probably wants to start but he is the prototypical sixth man archetype. He makes sense in closing lineups but Keon is a much better fit for the starting unit with Huerter being the other option. Huerter had a bit of a down year but if you look at the numbers he was still hugely a positive in minutes with Sabonis and is still elite at DHO actions. Teams started to take away that action against us last year since it was such a huge weapon the year before but adding Derozan into the fold should make it that much tougher to take it away. Teams are going to have to pick their poison.

[jk31]

dunno where to ask that so I try it in your Kings subforum:

I clicked through summer league games while I was looking for something completely different while I stumbled upon a game from your Kings against Team China during this years Salt Lake City Summer League.

Did the Coach J.B. Bickerstaff really play 10 minutes against this chinese team?! Can someone enlighten me what happened here?!

https://www.nba.com/game/chn-vs-sko-1322400004/box-score#box-score

[typedrat]

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[madskillz8]

dunno where to ask that so I try it in your Kings subforum:

I clicked through summer league games while I was looking for something completely different while I stumbled upon a game from your Kings against Team China during this years Salt Lake City Summer League.

Did the Coach J.B. Bickerstaff really play 10 minutes against this chinese team?! Can someone enlighten me what happened here?!

https://www.nba.com/game/chn-vs-sko-1322400004/box-score#box-score

I appreciate your effort for checking Kings vs Team China box score. That was very random lol.

It seems like some data entry personnel just got lazy -
https://sports.yahoo.com/jmu-t-j-bickerstaff-join-031358202.html
https://youtu.be/0D76oTsOCsY?t=471

[jk31]

dunno where to ask that so I try it in your Kings subforum:

I clicked through summer league games while I was looking for something completely different while I stumbled upon a game from your Kings against Team China during this years Salt Lake City Summer League.

Did the Coach J.B. Bickerstaff really play 10 minutes against this chinese team?! Can someone enlighten me what happened here?!

https://www.nba.com/game/chn-vs-sko-1322400004/box-score#box-score

I appreciate your effort for checking Kings vs Team China box score. That was very random lol.

Haha definitely!

It seems like some data entry personnel just got lazy -
https://sports.yahoo.com/jmu-t-j-bickerstaff-join-031358202.html
https://youtu.be/0D76oTsOCsY?t=471

Ah lol, thanks for clarifying that... I was thinking "how bad must this team china be if a coach subs himself in and dunks a ball". But yeah, that makes more sense.

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[codydaze]

Looking at that schedule, it doesn't look like a very brutal start or end to the season. The end definitely seems tougher than the start, I'd expect to be at least 13-7 through the end of November (a 53 win pace), but would feel a whole lot better sitting at 15-5 (a 61 win pace). 15-5 looks tough but achievable with the draw we got to start.

[BoogieTime]

one of my biggest complaints is the usual tough start which doesn't allow us to get a surprise team narrative going.. at least this year we have a manageable start which also allows us to form as a unit early

[Lost in LA]

Why so many back to backs? I counted 15! Do all teams get that many?

[typedrat]

Why so many back to backs? I counted 15! Do all teams get that many?

16, actually, making us tied for the most with OKC.

[typedrat]

one of my biggest complaints is the usual tough start which doesn't allow us to get a surprise team narrative going.. at least this year we have a manageable start which also allows us to form as a unit early

Doesn't look like a tough start to me, other than opening night itself. Lakers, Portland, Utah, Atlanta, Toronto... that's a pretty easy list to round out the first six games. Two of the rest of our first ten are against the Spurs and the Raptors again. I'd say we should probably be at least 7-3 if we're not screwing the pooch.

[OxAndFox]

Interesting to see on Kings Beat they talked about Huerters injury update and that he wouldn't be doing contact for another month.

That all but ensures the starting 2 spot is down to Monk and Keon.

[typedrat]

Interesting to see on Kings Beat they talked about Huerters injury update and that he wouldn't be doing contact for another month.

That all but ensures the starting 2 spot is down to Monk and Keon.

I think that more or less guarantees the spot goes to Keon.

[Lost in LA]

Interesting to see on Kings Beat they talked about Huerters injury update and that he wouldn't be doing contact for another month.

That all but ensures the starting 2 spot is down to Monk and Keon.

I think that more or less guarantees the spot goes to Keon.

I saw a couple of references to Huerter being described as a small forward which might happen also.

[LightTheBeam]

I hate injuries, but the word I heard was the team was really leaning towards Huerter starting. Tired of not putting our best players in the starting lineup because we want to build trade value or put them in a good spot. We did that with Buddy for years.. Stop, learn, and adjust.

Keon should be starting and it's not a question in my mind. He showed enough that you roll with that and you turn to Huerter if that doesn't yield the same results it did last year.

Wiretap has Crowder coming in for a workout. Love that. Might not be the same player, but he still can stretch the floor, play defense, and bring veteran experience. Much better than McDaniels.

[Lost in LA]

I think it will be very interesting to see how Fox plays in figuring out what will he need to do to get an all NBA rating for his contract. Demar will be taking shots, and we do not want to turn Murray into a purely defensive player. Fox will need to get to 30 points a game and improving his FT stats will help toward that. Scoring first and being the PG second may reduce his assists also, so it is a delicate balance.

[KF10]

I get the vibe that DD is a team-first player based on his recent interviews in the summer. He will defer to Fox a lot this season. Fox will need to have his best season to date if he wants the max (super) contract. I think the platform is there for Fox if he wants to go for it.

[typedrat]

Wiretap has Crowder coming in for a workout. Love that. Might not be the same player, but he still can stretch the floor, play defense, and bring veteran experience. Much better than McDaniels.

The only value that Jalen has is that he's $4.7 million worth of salary to throw into a trade, but that isn't nothing when the alternative would likely be to first take the hit from waiving and spreading his contract and then to sign Crowder to a minimum for less money (and therefore trade salary).

[codydaze]

Wiretap has Crowder coming in for a workout. Love that. Might not be the same player, but he still can stretch the floor, play defense, and bring veteran experience. Much better than McDaniels.

The only value that Jalen has is that he's $4.7 million worth of salary to throw into a trade, but that isn't nothing when the alternative would likely be to first take the hit from waiving and spreading his contract and then to sign Crowder to a minimum for less money (and therefore trade salary).

I believe we have an open roster spot to sign Crowder without needing to cut McDaniels. It would very likely be a vet minimum deal and I don't know the tax implications of that but I don't think it would be a significant impact.

I would have loved Crowder five years ago, at this point he's not really the same player, but I wouldn't mind him as a depth piece.