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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1241 » by frenky ff » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:45 pm

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This is his agent's tweet
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1242 » by codydaze » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:56 pm

frenky ff wrote:
Read on Twitter


This is his agent's tweet


I like his attempt at blacking out the guy's handle lol.
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1243 » by kalenclayton » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:20 pm

codydaze wrote:
frenky ff wrote:
Read on Twitter


This is his agent's tweet


I like his attempt at blacking out the guy's handle lol.

I really want to know the conclusion of this story.

Guy agrees to deal
Guy backs out of deal
Reports say guy goes overseas
Reports say Euro market isn’t too hot
International Woj says Sac is in talks with guy
Guy’s agent draws Pinocchio

Fascinating.
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1244 » by becorz » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:52 pm

What do you all think of Pat McCaw and Shabazz Muhammad for this team? I think they would fit pretty nicely as competition at the three for Jackson. Issue with McCaw is that he is restricted, but GS might now match. And for Muhammad, is he big enough to play SF all the time?
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1245 » by kalenclayton » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:17 pm

becorz wrote:What do you all think of Pat McCaw and Shabazz Muhammad for this team? I think they would fit pretty nicely as competition at the three for Jackson. Issue with McCaw is that he is restricted, but GS might now match. And for Muhammad, is he big enough to play SF all the time?

Shabazz is all offense and no D. He also doesn’t really pass. He’s good to have for your second unit if you need help scoring, but I don’t think that’s the Kings.

McCaw would probably be an easy get. Just offer him a 2-year $10-12 Million deal and he’s yours.

Edit: McCaw would probably fit in just fine, but his shooting is suspect. I’m worried about that. Outside of that, I think he’s an awesome prospect to have.
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1246 » by kingjawn100 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:50 am

The sad thing..think of how many hundreds of posts there have been in the last 10 months on this forum, reddit, twitter etc about this summer's free agent class and whether or not we should get Randle or Gordon or Parker etc. People not impressed with Hezonja but willing to take him if all else fails. People spending countless hours thinking of trades while matching salaries. People calling this the most important offseason in kings history. And to come away with virtually nothing...tough to stomach.
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1247 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:57 am

No to Mccaw. He's more of a skinny 2 than a 3. And Shabazz could have been had by just about any team last year, I can't see why the Kings would have interest now.
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1248 » by PetrieUnderstudy » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:18 am

I was researching Raskovic and came across 2 interesting quotes from him.

"There is an interview with me from 2010 when no one knew about Bogdan. I said that he will succeed thanks to the family because they are normal people. I didn't make a mistake, he will yet to make something great, people don't even know what will that be. No one knows what Divac did, everybody laughs, they make a circus of Sacramento, and no one understands how genius Divac is."

"Everything was already written and said about Pedja, phenomenal young man with three children, I was with him in Sacramento recently again. He shows maturity and seriousness in a job he is working now with Divac. That is an NBA franchise which is constantly under fire by public opinion, but, as the time goes by, I am glad that Bogdan is there. That group of young guys will find their place in the history of NBA."
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Re: RE: Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1249 » by City of Trees » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:29 am

kingjawn100 wrote:The sad thing..think of how many hundreds of posts there have been in the last 10 months on this forum, reddit, twitter etc about this summer's free agent class and whether or not we should get Randle or Gordon or Parker etc. People not impressed with Hezonja but willing to take him if all else fails. People spending countless hours thinking of trades while matching salaries. People calling this the most important offseason in kings history. And to come away with virtually nothing...tough to stomach.
It was called the most important pick in Kings history. You changed it to off-season AND decided to ignore the player picked.

Thats funny.


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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1250 » by BoogieTime » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:10 am

kingjawn100 wrote:The sad thing..think of how many hundreds of posts there have been in the last 10 months on this forum, reddit, twitter etc about this summer's free agent class and whether or not we should get Randle or Gordon or Parker etc. People not impressed with Hezonja but willing to take him if all else fails. People spending countless hours thinking of trades while matching salaries. People calling this the most important offseason in kings history. And to come away with virtually nothing...tough to stomach.


THats 100% true

There is going to be some addendum to the This team is killing me thread, but, the team needed to come away with 2 quality pieces this summer - one in draft one in FA. So far we only got an iffy draft.........
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1251 » by kingjawn100 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:46 am

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kingjawn100 wrote:The sad thing..think of how many hundreds of posts there have been in the last 10 months on this forum, reddit, twitter etc about this summer's free agent class and whether or not we should get Randle or Gordon or Parker etc. People not impressed with Hezonja but willing to take him if all else fails. People spending countless hours thinking of trades while matching salaries. People calling this the most important offseason in kings history. And to come away with virtually nothing...tough to stomach.


THats 100% true

There is going to be some addendum to the This team is killing me thread, but, the team needed to come away with 2 quality pieces this summer - one in draft one in FA. So far we only got an iffy draft.........


The unfortunate thing too...we will have a ton of money to spend next offseason. If you look down the list of max-worthy unrestricted free agents there is one who Kings fans will think is the obvious fit: Klay Thompson. The problem...Klay Thompson is 99% not coming to Sacramento. Yet between October and next July all we will hear/read about is a kings run at Klay Thomspon. Seems like a never-ending cycle.

I still contend if the Kings ever become a playoff team it will be because our draft picks pan out - not some pie in the sky dream of landing a top free agent. If De'aaron Fox and Marvin Bagley reach their potential in the next 2-3 years we may have something. If not this is gonna be an extremely long rebuild.
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1252 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:27 am

kingjawn100 wrote:
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kingjawn100 wrote:The sad thing..think of how many hundreds of posts there have been in the last 10 months on this forum, reddit, twitter etc about this summer's free agent class and whether or not we should get Randle or Gordon or Parker etc. People not impressed with Hezonja but willing to take him if all else fails. People spending countless hours thinking of trades while matching salaries. People calling this the most important offseason in kings history. And to come away with virtually nothing...tough to stomach.


THats 100% true

There is going to be some addendum to the This team is killing me thread, but, the team needed to come away with 2 quality pieces this summer - one in draft one in FA. So far we only got an iffy draft.........


The unfortunate thing too...we will have a ton of money to spend next offseason. If you look down the list of max-worthy unrestricted free agents there is one who Kings fans will think is the obvious fit: Klay Thompson. The problem...Klay Thompson is 99% not coming to Sacramento. Yet between October and next July all we will hear/read about is a kings run at Klay Thomspon. Seems like a never-ending cycle.

I still contend if the Kings ever become a playoff team it will be because our draft picks pan out - not some pie in the sky dream of landing a top free agent. If De'aaron Fox and Marvin Bagley reach their potential in the next 2-3 years we may have something. If not this is gonna be an extremely long rebuild.



I don't know of a team worth anything that was built only on draft picks though. Obviously the Spurs are an example of one being close but now that Duncan is out of the picture it sure seems like things haven't been the same. Amazing isn't it? You have to build some value in the players that will and won't stick and for this year to be a success that has to happen. Players have to be allowed to separate themselves from the pack just like any team. You never want to over focus on development because you eventually watch that developed talent either be re-signed at a higher than desired pay grade or you watch them walk like the Kings have done to more than a few including one they just got back in a trade. If we see more middle rung minute distribution involving the lesser potential players that leads to more middle rung individual output from the higher potential ones it's going to be a tough go for the year after as well. Clearly trades and drafting are the only way Vlade is going to be able to augment things. The Kings have to start to prove whether they have star power on their team currently. Buddy is going to be 25, Bogdan and Willie 26. Fox and Bagley can show that potential now. Get it done. They have to find out if this combination of players can be something at it's peak, not dance around positional battles and BS lineup calls.
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1253 » by kingjawn100 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:40 pm

McLemore posting on IG that he's house hunting in Sac. Feels like he's been told by management that they intend to keep him.

The scary thought is Vlade striking out in free agency and then selling the fan base on McLemore being the answer at the starting small forward spot.
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1254 » by JamesConway » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:07 pm

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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1255 » by codydaze » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:08 pm

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I really like this move.
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Re: RE: Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1256 » by City of Trees » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:12 pm

codydaze wrote:
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I really like this move.
Yep me too.

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Re: RE: Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1257 » by JamesConway » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:18 pm

City of Trees wrote:
codydaze wrote:
JamesConway wrote:
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I really like this move.
Yep me too.

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Solid bench PG. Carlisle played him 3000+ minutes over his ~ 1.5 seasons in DAL as a rookie/sophomore and he was often part of our most successfull +/- lineups. Can shoot, attack, low TO-guy, can run PnRs. Smart guy off the court, too. It's weird how his contract-situation panned out but honestly, he didn't make a fortune so far so I can't blame him for taking a second look at his option after the weird agreement came out (he agreed to sign for less than the QO for some reason).

Good signing for SAC Imo.
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1258 » by kingjawn100 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:51 pm

Who says summer league doesn't mean anything. You have to think if Mason plays lights out in SL this move probably isn't made.

In theory now you could have a pretty fun 2nd unit with Yogi, Buddy and Harry.
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1259 » by teerfour+40LG » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:36 pm

I watched Yogi Ferrell at Indiana when I was scouting Noah Vonleh. He seemed like a scrubby guard to me, but apparently people like him.
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Re: Kings Off-Season 

Post#1260 » by City of Trees » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:37 pm

I think signing another PG was necessary regardless of Mason's SL performance. Kings were one Fox ankle sprain away from having only one PG (Mason) on the roster.

Smart depth move.

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