The TRADE Thread 2021

[BoogieTime]

Barnes is still on this team destroying the tank...

Questionable call either way from McNair..

I understand the need for a vet on the team and the fact that the team would be better with a different coach, but it’s questionable either way since this losing streak

[NocioniHomie]

Bulls fans wondering what we might have to give up for Barnes?

I proposed Otto Porter Jr. and lottery protected 1rst. Or Otto Porter + Lauri Markannen for Barnes + filler. OPJ is expiring and many Bulls fans aren't looking to pay Lauri.

Always have liked Barnes' game. Think he would fit really well on our current roster

Interesting. I don't think we pay Lauri either although that value seems really good. The lotto protected pick could be interesting. But I wouldn't bet on the Heat/Celtics missing the playoffs. So that leaves me to question if the Bulls could beat out the Hornets/Knicks for the last spot. With Barnes I think they could.

Id do Barnes/Parker for Porter + Lotto Protected 1st.

Or

3 team trade routing Lauri elsewhere. Not sure whats the market for Lauri or who could use him is the only issue. If he could fetch a semi decent guy/prospect like Dort, Miles Bridges, Bamba who made more sense for Sac then id do it.

Cool thanks!

[snowman]

Celtics fan coming in peace guys.
I know you all hear the rumors about trades, and I thought I would submit an idea along those lines.

Boston trades their 2021 FRP, top 10 protected, a pick swap option of our 2023 FRP or if no swap happens, a 2023 2nd round pick to the Kings for Harrison Barnes using a TPE.
Boston trades Carson Edwards, Javonte Green, Grant Williams, a 2nd round pick and cash (to buy out the remailing contract of either Green or Edwards) to the Kings for Nemanja Bjelica.

Does this seem close to value ?

[LightTheBeam]

Celtics fan coming in peace guys.
I know you all hear the rumors about trades, and I thought I would submit an idea along those lines.

Boston trades their 2021 FRP, top 10 protected, a pick swap option of our 2023 FRP or if no swap happens, a 2023 2nd round pick to the Kings for Harrison Barnes using a TPE.
Boston trades Carson Edwards, Javonte Green, Grant Williams, a 2nd round pick and cash (to buy out the remailing contract of either Green or Edwards) to the Kings for Nemanja Bjelica.

Does this seem close to value ?

So realistically Williams/top 10 protected 1st/ 2nd for bjelica/barnes?

I'd do it. I'd prefer Nesmith to the pick, but I'm sure some kings fans rather have more draft capital. Could see Monte wanting his own guy. I'm good with this.

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[BoogieTime]

Barnes is going to be the reason we pick 9 instead of 4 isn’t he?

His presence, and McNair, are driving me crazy

[LightTheBeam]

Barnes is going to be the reason we pick 9 instead of 4 isn’t he?

His presence, and McNair, are driving me crazy

Id trade him but not giving him away.

Honestly, feels like this team is a coach + semi decent bench away from being decent. I'm in no rush to dump him just to dump him. If we can get some assets then by all means.

Also with or without Barnes, I doubt we finish below Minnesota, Rockets, OKC, Cleveland, Detroit, Magic, or the Wizards. I have us at best case #8, but worst case we climb above teams like Atlanta, New Orleans, and the Bulls. Ending up #11.

[BoogieTime]

Barnes is going to be the reason we pick 9 instead of 4 isn’t he?

His presence, and McNair, are driving me crazy

Id trade him but not giving him away.

Honestly, feels like this team is a coach + semi decent bench away from being decent. I'm in no rush to dump him just to dump him. If we can get some assets then by all means.

Also with or without Barnes, I doubt we finish below Minnesota, Rockets, OKC, Cleveland, Detroit, Magic, or the Wizards. I have us at best case #8, but worst case we climb above teams like Atlanta, New Orleans, and the Bulls. Ending up #11.

We can catch everyone but Detroit/Houston/Minnesota without Barnes going forward IMO, and who knows if we had traded him earlier

[OGSactownballer]

Barnes is going to be the reason we pick 9 instead of 4 isn’t he?

His presence, and McNair, are driving me crazy

Id trade him but not giving him away.

Honestly, feels like this team is a coach + semi decent bench away from being decent. I'm in no rush to dump him just to dump him. If we can get some assets then by all means.

Also with or without Barnes, I doubt we finish below Minnesota, Rockets, OKC, Cleveland, Detroit, Magic, or the Wizards. I have us at best case #8, but worst case we climb above teams like Atlanta, New Orleans, and the Bulls. Ending up #11.

We can catch everyone but Detroit/Houston/Minnesota without Barnes going forward IMO, and who knows if we had traded him earlier

I will NEVER support a full on tank without severe injury issues to justify (see San Antonio the year before they drafted Duncan, Dubs last year and when Curry had his early injury issues, etc.).

For a young team with no background of being a winning program, you teach a losing culture and a “me first” mentality that becomes nearly impossible to break.

The biggest single issue with this team is incompetent leadership at the Head coach spot. Walton is destroying these young players. It would be more than worth eating the money to fire him and hand the reins to Gentry for a trial half season to see what he could do. We are still too light on depth obviously. But that can be fixed going forward through astute signings and player development (I.e. the reason why they signed Woodard and Ramsey to regular FA deals - cheap team control with time to develop).

I would rather hold on to Barnes. He is not going to lose value as a player and what he gives will not change and is immeasurably valuable when playoff time comes. As well his contract value only gets better as the deal goes in so that combination can be the foundation of a better trade off-season or next year. In the meanwhile Woodard gets the chance to develop into a Barnes type player that can step in next season already knowing the system and the teammates if you do a future deal.

[SmellingColors]

Apparently we're interested in Kevin Love? Unless we're getting something else in return, I don't get it. Hopefully there's something attached and/or it isn't true.

[Lost in LA]

One more player who can't defend..

[BoogieTime]

Apparently we're interested in Kevin Love? Unless we're getting something else in return, I don't get it. Hopefully there's something attached and/or it isn't true.

Sam Amico isn’t credible. I wouldn’t worry

[LightTheBeam]

Sam Amick is plugged in

Sam Amico is a fraud

[codydaze]

In the same article that said we were interested, it said Cleveland's chances of moving Love were virtually impossible so it's really a whole lot of nothing to the rumor.

[SmellingColors]

Apparently we're interested in Kevin Love? Unless we're getting something else in return, I don't get it. Hopefully there's something attached and/or it isn't true.

Sam Amico isn’t credible. I wouldn’t worry

Ahhh got it.

[dozencousins]

Trade rumor info . Kings and Celtics are very close to a deal and have discussed 2 different directions on a possible trade . I am not claiming to know an exact deal as of know but I do know of the main parts per my source as it is hard to pin point anything exact as so many filler names based on different trade scenerios have been talked about if they do this versus that .

#1 The one most know of already Barnes to Boston for Aaron Nesmith & The trade exception another is the same but take out Aaron Nesmith as a 1st round pick and Kings get Thompson and possiblt teague whom they would likely let walk if traded .

# 2 Boston gets Barnes & the Kings get Smart , Thompson & and C.Edwards
If this happens Boston then will use their exception of the Magics Nikola Vucevic

By the way a deal may happen much sooner than later . The hold up really is Monte knows what he wanys and Prefers the 1st scenerio as I am confident most Kings fans prefer but Ainge is still sniffing around plus he is trying to offer up other young players rather than Aaron so if he decides to say Yes the deal would happen right away . If he does not a deal may happen but it is less likely . Kings have many options they can do on many fronts .

We the Kings are talking will Denver about Will Barton
We have talked to the Magic about A.Gordon



Buddy has been talked about with some teams 1 of which to Dallas with the Kings getting Brunson + J.Johnson in the deal Dallas really prefers to keep him but you have to give to get . If Dallas does not offer up Brunson then their will likely be no deal between us . Also Warriors , Den , N.O. have interest . 76ers still have some interest but they are looking at a few other options first . Same goes for the Knicks hence why I mention them last .

Bagley has been talked about with the Hornets , Magic & Hawks that I know of . The only way the Hawks would even work out if we could even agree on a trade is if we trade Barnes and get the exception because the Kings would have to pay Collins a lot hence Barnes money has to come off the books for the most part . If we do get Collins and I am not saying we get hom Bagley will either be dealt before the deadline if not in the off season .

If I get anymore info I will try and update however I am very busy a lot .

[nolimit0820]

Trade rumor info . Kings and Celtics are very close to a deal and have discussed 2 different directions on a possible trade . I am not claiming to know an exact deal as of know but I do know of the main parts per my source as it is hard to pin point anything exact as so many filler names based on different trade scenerios have been talked about if they do this versus that .

#1 The one most know of already Barnes to Boston for Aaron Nesmith & The trade exception another is the same but take out Aaron Nesmith as a 1st round pick and Kings get Thompson and possiblt teague whom they would likely let walk if traded .

# 2 Boston gets Barnes & the Kings get Smart , Thompson & and C.Edwards
If this happens Boston then will use their exception of the Magics Nikola Vucevic

By the way a deal may happen much sooner than later . The hold up really is Monte knows what he wanys and Prefers the 1st scenerio as I am confident most Kings fans prefer but Ainge is still sniffing around plus he is trying to offer up other young players rather than Aaron so if he decides to say Yes the deal would happen right away . If he does not a deal may happen but it is less likely . Kings have many options they can do on many fronts .

We the Kings are talking will Denver about Will Barton
We have talked to the Magic about A.Gordon



Buddy has been talked about with some teams 1 of which to Dallas with the Kings getting Brunson + J.Johnson in the deal Dallas really prefers to keep him but you have to give to get . If Dallas does not offer up Brunson then their will likely be no deal between us . Also Warriors , Den , N.O. have interest . 76ers still have some interest but they are looking at a few other options first . Same goes for the Knicks hence why I mention them last .

Bagley has been talked about with the Hornets , Magic & Hawks that I know of . The only way the Hawks would even work out if we could even agree on a trade is if we trade Barnes and get the exception because the Kings would have to pay Collins a lot hence Barnes money has to come off the books for the most part . If we do get Collins and I am not saying we get hom Bagley will either be dealt before the deadline if not in the off season .

If I get anymore info I will try and update however I am very busy a lot .

Interesting that you also have sources with other teams.

Buddy and Harrison are most likely to go, in my opinion, but I would imagine we’re in no rush. They’re both locked in and there needs to be a back up plan to fill those positions. Although, I would love to see Haliburton featured more and the only way that happens is when he’s next to Fox regularly or Luke benches Bags in favor of the small ball line up.

[BoogieTime]

Reports are now Barnes might not be moving because Vivek wants to remain competitive...

I already don’t like him as an owner, but if he’s in the way of McNair rebuilding...

Amick already said the Celtics are offering youth already didn’t he?

[kalenclayton]

Reports are now Barnes might not be moving because Vivek wants to remain competitive...

I already don’t like him as an owner, but if he’s in the way of McNair rebuilding...

Amick already said the Celtics are offering youth already didn’t he?

I saw that and I’m wondering if it’s smoke and mirrors. I can believe it because of Vivek’s history, but this could also be something that could drum up more interest in Barnes (I.e. an “offer you can’t refuse” kind of situation). This does give me pause though because it’s Ainge who we are dealing with and we all know how stingy he is.

Also, if Vivek signed off on Fox getting that max contract, shouldn’t he think that the Kings will be competitive with their max player still steering the ship? I mean, this would push Fox to play harder and really put him to the test. Vivek really needs to get out of the way. Staying “competitive” is just a facade.

[BoogieTime]

Reports are now Barnes might not be moving because Vivek wants to remain competitive...

I already don’t like him as an owner, but if he’s in the way of McNair rebuilding...

Amick already said the Celtics are offering youth already didn’t he?

I saw that and I’m wondering if it’s smoke and mirrors. I can believe it because of Vivek’s history, but this could also be something that could drum up more interest in Barnes (I.e. an “offer you can’t refuse” kind of situation). This does give me pause though because it’s Ainge who we are dealing with and we all know how stingy he is.

Also, if Vivek signed off on Fox getting that max contract, shouldn’t he think that the Kings will be competitive with their max player still steering the ship? I mean, this would push Fox to play harder and really put him to the test. Vivek really needs to get out of the way. Staying “competitive” is just a facade.

I think Vivek may be in the way

He was against not matching Bogdan. McNair had to make it known through reporters that Vivek was meddling so that he backed off that stance. Remember?

I hope it’s just a reporter making stuff up, but it sounds like Vivek is still being Vivek

I thought amick’s article said something like Boston’s collection of young picks and players might not be enough, I think he said it as if Boston may be offering enough but I’d have to find that article again

[LightTheBeam]

Reports are now Barnes might not be moving because Vivek wants to remain competitive...

I already don’t like him as an owner, but if he’s in the way of McNair rebuilding...

Amick already said the Celtics are offering youth already didn’t he?

I saw that and I’m wondering if it’s smoke and mirrors. I can believe it because of Vivek’s history, but this could also be something that could drum up more interest in Barnes (I.e. an “offer you can’t refuse” kind of situation). This does give me pause though because it’s Ainge who we are dealing with and we all know how stingy he is.

Also, if Vivek signed off on Fox getting that max contract, shouldn’t he think that the Kings will be competitive with their max player still steering the ship? I mean, this would push Fox to play harder and really put him to the test. Vivek really needs to get out of the way. Staying “competitive” is just a facade.

I think Vivek may be in the way

He was against not matching Bogdan. McNair had to make it known through reporters that Vivek was meddling so that he backed off that stance. Remember?

I hope it’s just a reporter making stuff up, but it sounds like Vivek is still being Vivek

I thought amick’s article said something like Boston’s collection of young picks and players might not be enough, I think he said it as if Boston may be offering enough but I’d have to find that article again

I think its more posturing.

What is the report going to say? Kings determined to move Barnes?

Then the next Boston call "So I know we offered Nesmith + 1st last week, but we decided to only offer Nesmith + 2nd"

Reminds me of Vlade "we had a better offer last week"

Either way, don't understand the rush to move Barnes. This team isn't good, but they aren't terrible. Another year of Fox/Hali progress, a decent bench, a competent coach, and a rookie, id rather roll with that then give Barnes away for trash.