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Post#141 » by blind prophet » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:07 am

So the Knicks have 24 & 25 this draft right?

Recent trade & OG

Maybe something happens there?

3 team trade?
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Post#142 » by BoogieTime » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:13 am

You take bpa IMO, so not worried about fits. Monte should be selecting his big board. Trades are to iron out the roster
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Post#143 » by KF10 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:15 am

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KF10 wrote:On the bright side, Carter is the best guard on the team not named Fox & Monk. He and Ellis will battle for the 3rd best guard in the team.


Get rid of the other guards to open up minutes for those 4 players above.

:dontknow:


We had some success going Fox-Monk-Keon.

I'm fine with that.

But what does Huerter/Barnes/Mitchell fetch? That's nothing.


I like the Fox-Monk-Keon rotation too. Adding Carter into the mix is a net positive. Dude is a winning player. Very high motor and a “dawg”. Derrick White vibes.


Not sure how much value the Kings can get from Huerter, Barnes, Davion & Duarte. This is Monte’s biggest test in the offseason.
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Post#144 » by codydaze » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:27 am

Detroit went with Ron Holland at 5 for a team that desperately needs shooters. Huerter for Beef Stew?
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Post#145 » by Jkam31 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:57 am

LightTheBeam wrote:Time for Monte to go. I'm absolutely done. Yea, we need another 22 year old rookie 6'2 guard because Davion could be gone.

This is gross.


I’ve calmed down a little because Carter could be very good but we need trades and I don’t trust that fool to make trades. He might run it back saying we almost had trades, do we even have picks to give to go get a Cam Johnson. If we’re able to get Cam/Grant/Kuzma than we’re set but I guess the front office thinks Fox/Sabonis are 22-23 wand we got time to waste
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Post#146 » by codydaze » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:01 am

Jkam31 wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:Time for Monte to go. I'm absolutely done. Yea, we need another 22 year old rookie 6'2 guard because Davion could be gone.

This is gross.


I’ve calmed down a little because Carter could be very good but we need trades and I don’t trust that fool to make trades. He might run it back saying we almost had trades, do we even have picks to give to go get a Cam Johnson. If we’re able to get Cam/Grant/Kuzma than we’re set but I guess the front office thinks Fox/Sabonis are 22-23 wand we got time to waste


I think we can realistically get a 4 in the Beef Stew, John Collins, Wendell Carter tier without much draft capital. I think we're probably priced out of Grant/Kuzma/Johnson though.
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Post#147 » by FarBeyondDriven » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:07 am

it's not that Carter, the talent, is bad. It's just that there was similar (better imo) talents that fill needs still on the board. We desperately need to make trades
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Post#148 » by OxAndFox » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:09 am

Right now it looks like the Kings are:
Fox/Carter
Keon/Monk
Keegan
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Sabonis

To use in trade:
Davion/Jones/Huerter/Barnes/Vezenkov/Lyles/Duarte
'27 1st/'29 1st/'31 1st

FAs
Len/McGee/Edwards
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Post#149 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:48 am

The more I look at the kid, the more I like him. After some time cooling off I still just don't see the rational.

Monte to me is still on the hot seat. You had 4-5 forwards go in the next 10 picks, some of these guys are going to be the future Jalen Johnson / Trey Murphy of the davion draft. You had to take a chance imo.

Eyes open to see what kind of forward he can muster using Barnes, huerter, mitchell, Sasha, Duarte + future picks. I'm not seeing a ton of good options.

Sasha + davion + 2nd for DFS
Huerter for Thybulle
Barnes for isiah Stewart

Maybe we just go for better fitting pieces?

Fox/Carter
Keon/Monk
Keegan/Thybulle
DFS/Lyles
Sabonis/Beef Stew
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Post#150 » by BoogieTime » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:51 am

He’s saying the right things in these post pressers as well, despite the glut. Different from Davion who couldn’t hide his discontent being drafted here
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Post#151 » by BoogieTime » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:34 am

LightTheBeam wrote:
blind prophet wrote:There has to be a trade coming. May involve Carter & or our guard clutter.


How many times have we said this since Monte got here?

Only thing I think they don't believe in Keon. But damn, like wtf.

Fox/Carter/Mitchell
Keon/Monk/Huerter/Colby
Keegan
Barnes/Lyles/Sasha
Sabonis

That's the roster today unless I missed someone? Amazing lol.


I mean, Keon is one of my favorite Kings as well, and I've always thought he could round out into a all around solid player, but not sure where he's untouchable. Maybe he did enough and showcased enough at the end of last year to have solid trade value, and its not really set in stone that he will just continue to flourish and get better.

He could potentially be a chip, if he is seen by some team as having good value if the Kings decided to go that route. I'd prefer to keep Keon and like his fit with Fox, but..

That really has nothing to do with not believing in him though, they just took bpa
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Post#152 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:07 am

BoogieTime wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:
blind prophet wrote:There has to be a trade coming. May involve Carter & or our guard clutter.


How many times have we said this since Monte got here?

Only thing I think they don't believe in Keon. But damn, like wtf.

Fox/Carter/Mitchell
Keon/Monk/Huerter/Colby
Keegan
Barnes/Lyles/Sasha
Sabonis

That's the roster today unless I missed someone? Amazing lol.


I mean, Keon is one of my favorite Kings as well, and I've always thought he could round out into a all around solid player, but not sure where he's untouchable. Maybe he did enough and showcased enough at the end of last year to have solid trade value, and its not really set in stone that he will just continue to flourish and get better.

He could potentially be a chip, if he is seen by some team as having good value if the Kings decided to go that route. I'd prefer to keep Keon and like his fit with Fox, but..

That really has nothing to do with not believing in him though, they just took bpa


We saw the team become a top 10 defensive team when keon got inserted in the starting lineup. Even if this is who he is he should open the day as a starter.
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Post#153 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:09 am

The ringer oconner had Carter ranked as the 5th best prospect. They said he's got a huge wing span in the mold of Holiday, White, Bruce Brown, Gary payton 2 where he plays much bigger than his size.

Guess they wanted caruso so took the rookie version of that?
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Post#154 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:18 am

Read on Twitter
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Really interesting analysis.
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Post#155 » by FarBeyondDriven » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:47 am

LightTheBeam wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Really interesting analysis.


bEsT aNalYstS iN tHe bUsiNesS.

now that's funny. I think we all love Carter. We just don't like the roster imbalance. I'll take Carter over Kuzma, Caruso and Johnson. But he plays the same position as our all-nba caliber PG Fox. Yes we will have so much versatility and there'll be no drop-off with lineup changes but we haven't addressed our needs at PF and SG. We can get by with Huerter/Ellis/Carter at SG but Barnes is simply not going to cut it at the 4 especially when Sabonis isn't a shot blocker and we're outsized against bigger lineups.

I'm going to try to be optimistic and hope McNair has a plan. It's still early. I just wish we had better assets outside of those likely very valuable future 1sts.
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Post#156 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:53 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Really interesting analysis.


bEsT aNalYstS iN tHe bUsiNesS.

now that's funny. I think we all love Carter. We just don't like the roster imbalance. I'll take Carter over Kuzma, Caruso and Johnson. But he plays the same position as our all-nba caliber PG Fox. Yes we will have so much versatility and there'll be no drop-off with lineup changes but we haven't addressed our needs at PF and SG. We can get by with Huerter/Ellis/Carter at SG but Barnes is simply not going to cut it at the 4 especially when Sabonis isn't a shot blocker and we're outsized against bigger lineups.

I'm going to try to be optimistic and hope McNair has a plan. It's still early. I just wish we had better assets outside of those likely very valuable future 1sts.


Ya my initial reaction was being very upset.

The more I read about this guy the less I see him as a point guard. He's a short but long 2/3. When I see Payton/Dort in action, even though they are short they play much bigger.

I think you can play 3 of fox, Keon, Carter, Monk at the same time.

Agree about the roster imbalance. Need Huerter/Mitchell/Duarte gone asap for another playable forward. Just created a new trade thread, but Collins is my new target. I'll keep the firsts until the right move comes up.
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Post#157 » by Lost in LA » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:14 pm

Other then the obvious positional issue, I do wonder how much better Carter can get.

I am not sure his defense translates into the same offering against bigger faster and more skilful players, but at least the heart is definitely there. As others have stated, if trades are announced he can quickly become the back up PG and is likely better than Davion is day one. Shooting form does not look great, but maybe coaching can improve that. Could be an effective player at 12-15 minutes per night.
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Post#158 » by codydaze » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:46 pm

Lost in LA wrote:Other then the obvious positional issue, I do wonder how much better Carter can get.

I am not sure his defense translates into the same offering against bigger faster and more skilful players, but at least the heart is definitely there. As others have stated, if trades are announced he can quickly become the back up PG and is likely better than Davion is day one. Shooting form does not look great, but maybe coaching can improve that. Could be an effective player at 12-15 minutes per night.


I think Carter is going to be fine, defensively. He's got a 6'8" wingspan so should be able to guard multiple positions where Davion can't really guard up due to size. We just need to clear the guard glut and find a long forward.
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Post#159 » by FarBeyondDriven » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:32 pm

targets for our 2nd round pick. We get one of these guys and I'm ecstatic and will owe McNair a big fat apology:

Chomche - very raw. Youngest player in the draft. Won't contribute much in 2024 until 2nd half of the season. High upside
Ighodaro - would be a very good backup to Sabonis providing a lot of the same skills so the drop off when Sabonis sits not so dramatic
Freeman - PF that might actually be able to start. Lot of length. Great motor. Highly skilled
Mogbo - PF that can help on defense and rebounding that has a high BBIQ and is a connective passer
Christie - SG that I'm surprised didn't go in the 1st round. Starter potential. Would be a great Huerter replacement should we succeed trading Huerter away
Bona - absolute load that will help in two bigs lineups with shot blocking and rebounding
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Post#160 » by codydaze » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:40 pm

FarBeyondDriven wrote:targets for our 2nd round pick. We get one of these guys and I'm ecstatic and will owe McNair a big fat apology:

Chomche - very raw. Youngest player in the draft. Won't contribute much in 2024 until 2nd half of the season. High upside
Ighodaro - would be a very good backup to Sabonis providing a lot of the same skills so the drop off when Sabonis sits not so dramatic
Freeman - PF that might actually be able to start. Lot of length. Great motor. Highly skilled
Mogbo - PF that can help on defense and rebounding that has a high BBIQ and is a connective passer
Christie - SG that I'm surprised didn't go in the 1st round. Starter potential. Would be a great Huerter replacement should we succeed trading Huerter away
Bona - absolute load that will help in two bigs lineups with shot blocking and rebounding


Mogbo is my number one target for the second round. Hoping for either him or Bona. I like Enrique Freeman or Harrison Ingram for us too.

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