NBA 2017 Draft thread. 5th pick and 10th pick.

[StepBackCrack]

I feel it is possible that both Ball & Fox may be available at 5 . If so I really hope we take Fox still . Some here will disagree but I feel Fox is the better overall player of the 2 plus we would not have to worry about a father issue .
Kings had enough drama surrounding Cousins etc. for years and we just do not need anymore real headaches for quit awhile .

Agreed. Fox is the man I want the most in this draft. Love the kid.

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[dozencousins]

I believe that the Lakers are going to pass on Ball . I hear they are high on J.Jackson & if t he Celtics keep their pick they are likely taking tatum that leaves Fox & Ball available at 4 & 5 .

[blind prophet]

Arturas Gudaitis whom the Kings hold the rights to has a lot of teams calling the Kings about him . This is another Kings player as well as Koufas that may get traded soon enough .

In summer league he held position well, screened well, but wasn't athletically there to contribute beyond that.

How has his game improved?

I'd imagine you could take a player in the second round with as much promise.

[dozencousins]

Arturas Gudaitis whom the Kings hold the rights to has a lot of teams calling the Kings about him . This is another Kings player as well as Koufas that may get traded soon enough .

In summer league he held position well, screened well, but wasn't athletically there to contribute beyond that.

How has his game improved?

I'd imagine you could take a player in the second round with as much promise.

IMO he could be packaged with a pick to move up maybe he & the 10 . He & the 34th to move up . Maybe he & the 5th to the Celtics for the 3rd who knows ? Maybe him to a team for a future draft pick ?

I think it is very possible he would get traded either way .

[blind prophet]

Arturas Gudaitis whom the Kings hold the rights to has a lot of teams calling the Kings about him . This is another Kings player as well as Koufas that may get traded soon enough .

In summer league he held position well, screened well, but wasn't athletically there to contribute beyond that.

How has his game improved?

I'd imagine you could take a player in the second round with as much promise.

IMO he could be packaged with a pick to move up maybe he & the 10 . He & the 34th to move up . Maybe he & the 5th to the Celtics for the 3rd who knows ? Maybe him to a team for a future draft pick ?

I think it is very possible he would get traded either way .

Well we have a lot of depth even before the draft.

I wouldn't mind moving him for a future second, or even something like the 34 and him for a 30-33 if there is something the FO really likes and can secure.

Kosta and a possible pick combo for a better pick combo and bad salary is something I'd wager may happen on draft night.

[nolimit0820]

The scenario I fear most is if the Lakers pass on Ball and he continues to drop. Fultz, Jackson, Tatum, and Fox all could go in the top 4. I would hate to lose our chance at Jackson, Tatum, or Fox remaining in the 5 slot.

[SactownHrtBrks8]

I'm pretty shocked that Ball is going to drop so far to 5. It put the Kings in a weird spot. I still believe the Lakers take him


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[Andrew McCeltic]

Arturas Gudaitis whom the Kings hold the rights to has a lot of teams calling the Kings about him . This is another Kings player as well as Koufas that may get traded soon enough .

In summer league he held position well, screened well, but wasn't athletically there to contribute beyond that.

How has his game improved?

I'd imagine you could take a player in the second round with as much promise.

IMO he could be packaged with a pick to move up maybe he & the 10 . He & the 34th to move up . Maybe he & the 5th to the Celtics for the 3rd who knows ? Maybe him to a team for a future draft pick ?

I think it is very possible he would get traded either way .

Never heard of the dude. I think Boston would trade down for the 5/10 if we knew what the Suns were going to do. You guys want Fox at 3, Phoenix takes Isaac, Ball, Jackson or Tatum, and we can get Jackson or Tatum at 5, cross our fingers there's a good slider at 10, I'd do it. But I think you're in a position to make out pretty well with both picks. All it takes to give the 10 value are one or two idiosyncratic reaches in the mid lottery: Minnesota takes John Collins at 7 and likes him next to Towns; Dallas takes Lauri at 9.

[jeffjtk1234]

Ball is automatic if he's there at 5. He's going to be a very good NBA player. His bball IQ is off the charts


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[nolimit0820]

Ball is automatic if he's there at 5. He's going to be a very good NBA player. His bball IQ is off the charts


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I hear you, BUT I have a hard time believing Vlade drafts a guy who hasn't worked out for them.

[SacKingZZZ]

Just watched the highlights of DSJ against Duke on their home court, kid is going to be an absolute star, he completely dominated them. Would way rather see the Kings draft him over Fox.

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Watch his game against a few other powerhouse schools. It will temper your enthusiasm. He's got the potential but he's really inconsistent.

[SacKingZZZ]

Arturas Gudaitis whom the Kings hold the rights to has a lot of teams calling the Kings about him . This is another Kings player as well as Koufas that may get traded soon enough .

Totally forgot about him. Well, if the Kings don't have plans for him, might as well move him I guess.

[PetrieUnderstudy]

I, as many of you have, have thought of so many different scenarios for Thursday. I've been fairly consistent on guys I'd like but I've come to my final wish list.

I have a good feeling Fox will be there for us at 5 (fingers crossed) and I'll take him over anyone. Do not trade 5!
Trade #10 to Blazers for #20, #26, and protected 2019 1st.
Draft Semi Ojeleye #20 and Jordan Bell #26
Draft Frank Mason #34

As soon as draft ends pick up likely undrafted Jacob Wiley as 2 way players (Bighorns/Kings)

Resign Collison.
Sign Joe Ingles

PG De'Aaron Fox/Darren Collison/Frank Mason
SG Buddy Hield/Bogdan Bogdanovic/Malachi Richardson
SF Joe Ingles/Garrett Temple/Semi Ojeleye
PF Skal Labissiere/Jordan Bell/Jacob Wiley
C Willie Cauley-Stein/Kosta Koufos/Georgios Papagiannis

Run with the young guns and likely lose a lot but be scrappy, competitive, and fun. Take on salary for future assets/picks. Draft top SF in 2018. Be free agent players 2018 and make playoff push for 2018-19 season.

[nolimit0820]

I like the scenarios and I hear the argument that the value of players in this year's drops around 7 or 8. With that said, I would prefer to keep our 10th pick to see if there's a potential steal. However, Vlade has proven he will trade a pick to move down if he knows his guy will be there later. Maybe he has no plans to use that 10th pick.

[Crimson King]

Personally, I don't like the trade down of #10. We will have a lot of young players in the roster, no need to turn the pick into two late 1sts. Let's wait if someone falls, and if not, take the BPA.

[sacking123]

Personally, I don't like the trade down of #10. We will have a lot of young players in the roster, no need to turn the pick into two late 1sts. Let's wait if someone falls, and if not, take the BPA.

I think at the very least wait and see who is available at our pick. If Vlade doesn't like him someone surely will.


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[dozencousins]

In summer league he held position well, screened well, but wasn't athletically there to contribute beyond that.

How has his game improved?

I'd imagine you could take a player in the second round with as much promise.

IMO he could be packaged with a pick to move up maybe he & the 10 . He & the 34th to move up . Maybe he & the 5th to the Celtics for the 3rd who knows ? Maybe him to a team for a future draft pick ?

I think it is very possible he would get traded either way .

Never heard of the dude. I think Boston would trade down for the 5/10 if we knew what the Suns were going to do. You guys want Fox at 3, Phoenix takes Isaac, Ball, Jackson or Tatum, and we can get Jackson or Tatum at 5, cross our fingers there's a good slider at 10, I'd do it. But I think you're in a position to make out pretty well with both picks. All it takes to give the 10 value are one or two idiosyncratic reaches in the mid lottery: Minnesota takes John Collins at 7 and likes him next to Towns; Dallas takes Lauri at 9.

Kings are not trading the 5 & 10 to move up to the 3 lol .

[City of Trees]

IMO he could be packaged with a pick to move up maybe he & the 10 . He & the 34th to move up . Maybe he & the 5th to the Celtics for the 3rd who knows ? Maybe him to a team for a future draft pick ?

I think it is very possible he would get traded either way .

Never heard of the dude. I think Boston would trade down for the 5/10 if we knew what the Suns were going to do. You guys want Fox at 3, Phoenix takes Isaac, Ball, Jackson or Tatum, and we can get Jackson or Tatum at 5, cross our fingers there's a good slider at 10, I'd do it. But I think you're in a position to make out pretty well with both picks. All it takes to give the 10 value are one or two idiosyncratic reaches in the mid lottery: Minnesota takes John Collins at 7 and likes him next to Towns; Dallas takes Lauri at 9.

Kings are not trading the 5 & 10 to move up to the 3 lol .

You never know.

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[benchmobbin02]

I love to fantasize as well with all the trade scenarios (done dozens of them for fun) we could get involved with but I think we could benefit from keeping it simple this year.

5th - PG Fox 6'3 172
10th - SF/PF OG Anunoby 6'8 234
34th - PF/SF Jonah Bolden 6'10 227

C - WCS, KK, Papa
PF - Skal, Bolden, ?
SF - Bogdan, Anunoby, ?
SG - Hield, Temple, Richardson
PG - Fox, Galloway, ?

We would also add a another PG and F, either a vet we signed as an UFA or RFA we signed to an offer sheet or a young guy we liked from summer league. We could also look to add at those positions thru a trade taking on a bloated salary plus a pick. But that is the framework I like in terms of keeping it simple.

[Andrew McCeltic]

IMO he could be packaged with a pick to move up maybe he & the 10 . He & the 34th to move up . Maybe he & the 5th to the Celtics for the 3rd who knows ? Maybe him to a team for a future draft pick ?

I think it is very possible he would get traded either way .

Never heard of the dude. I think Boston would trade down for the 5/10 if we knew what the Suns were going to do. You guys want Fox at 3, Phoenix takes Isaac, Ball, Jackson or Tatum, and we can get Jackson or Tatum at 5, cross our fingers there's a good slider at 10, I'd do it. But I think you're in a position to make out pretty well with both picks. All it takes to give the 10 value are one or two idiosyncratic reaches in the mid lottery: Minnesota takes John Collins at 7 and likes him next to Towns; Dallas takes Lauri at 9.

Kings are not trading the 5 & 10 to move up to the 3 lol .

When did that rumor get shot down? I missed it. Lonzo would be perfect for the Kings if he's there, stretches the floor with Hield, Skal..