NBA 2017 Draft thread. 5th pick and 10th pick.

[SacKingZZZ]

So much in these tweets. Kings have secret workouts. Ford being right. Kings must like John Collins. Wow.

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Solid player. Not a huge fan. He could be a better Jason Thompson I guess.

[SacKingZZZ]

I'm really thinking of a 3 for 5/10 based on Jackson going to LA. If he's at 3, and the guy you want, the pick has more value -

Rozier, Crowder, 3 for 5, 10, BOS/SAC swap rights in 2018?

Yeah man 2018 swap has to be off the table...especially with Vlade getting owned on a swap in this draft. IMO swaps two years in a row from two different trades would be the end of his tenure as Kings GM.

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Yeah, if they do get Jackson, my hope would be next year they bring in his childhood friend Miles Bridges with that pick.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Collins seems like a sweeper. Btw, guy at The Ringer (Bill Simmons' new site) also suggested 3/Crowder for 5/10, but without the 2018 pick swap. I could see 3/Rozier for 5/10, or even 3 for 5/10. But all contingent on draft order, and how much teams covet particular players.

[dozencousins]

Collins seems like a sweeper. Btw, guy at The Ringer (Bill Simmons' new site) also suggested 3/Crowder for 5/10, but without the 2018 pick swap. I could see 3/Rozier for 5/10, or even 3 for 5/10. But all contingent on draft order, and how much teams covet particular players.

Won't happen .

[City of Trees]

The Ringer (Bill Simmons' new site) also suggested 3/Crowder for 5/10, but without the 2018 pick swap.

Kings trade:
5
10
34
Richardson

Kings Receive:
3 (Fox)
7 (Isaac)
Turner


Boston trades:
3
Crowder

Boston Receives:
5
10


Portland Trades:
15
Turner

Portland Receives:
Afflalo-NG


Wolves trade:
7

Wolves Receive:
15
Crowder
Richardson
34

[Andrew McCeltic]

F*ck, Collins seems like a *sleeper*

[Crimson King]

Not liking at all the Butler for #3 headline

Wouldn't Bulls take Jackson?

Not sure, but far bigger chance than they take Fox than the Celtics.

[codydaze]

The Ringer (Bill Simmons' new site) also suggested 3/Crowder for 5/10, but without the 2018 pick swap.

Kings trade:
5
10
34
Richardson

Kings Receive:
3 (Fox)
7 (Isaac)
Turner


Boston trades:
3
Crowder

Boston Receives:
5
10


Portland Trades:
15
Turner

Portland Receives:
Afflalo-NG


Wolves trade:
7

Wolves Receive:
15
Crowder
Richardson
34

I would be happy with this but I'd probably go SF at 3 because I don't Isaac falls to 7 but it's possible Fox could slide to 7 if this is how the picks ended up. I'd want Tatum at 3 and Fox/DSJ at 7.

I could see it going like this:
Phi - Fultz
LAL - Ball
Sac - Tatum
Pho - Isaac
Bos - Jackson
Orl - DSJ
Sac - Fox (or vice versa with DSJ)

I still think Isaac is the pick at 4 if we take Fox at 3 but Orlando would probably then take Tatum.

[RIPskaterdude]

Not liking at all the Butler for #3 headline

Wouldn't Bulls take Jackson?

Seems like a risky move for Chicago unless they know Butler has one foot out the door.

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They desperately need a PG as badly as we do

[Sactowndog]

The Ringer (Bill Simmons' new site) also suggested 3/Crowder for 5/10, but without the 2018 pick swap.

Kings trade:
5
10
34
Richardson

Kings Receive:
3 (Fox)
7 (Isaac)
Turner


Boston trades:
3
Crowder

Boston Receives:
5
10


Portland Trades:
15
Turner

Portland Receives:
Afflalo-NG


Wolves trade:
7

Wolves Receive:
15
Crowder
Richardson
34

I would be happy with this but I'd probably go SF at 3 because I don't Isaac falls to 7 but it's possible Fox could slide to 7 if this is how the picks ended up. I'd want Tatum at 3 and Fox/DSJ at 7.

I could see it going like this:
Phi - Fultz
LAL - Ball
Sac - Tatum
Pho - Isaac
Bos - Jackson
Orl - DSJ
Sac - Fox (or vice versa with DSJ)

I still think Isaac is the pick at 4 if we take Fox at 3 but Orlando would probably then take Tatum.

I am not sure that Isaac isn't the pick at 3 if Boston doesn't trade it. And I am not convinced they will trade it. They need to get more athletic and Isaac allows them to to do exactly that on the wing with Brown and Isaac.

It isn't beyond the realm of possibility we could be choosing between Fox and Ball at 5.
1) Fultz
2) Jackson
3) Isaac
4) Tatum
5) Fox or Ball.

[codydaze]

Kings trade:
5
10
34
Richardson

Kings Receive:
3 (Fox)
7 (Isaac)
Turner


Boston trades:
3
Crowder

Boston Receives:
5
10


Portland Trades:
15
Turner

Portland Receives:
Afflalo-NG


Wolves trade:
7

Wolves Receive:
15
Crowder
Richardson
34

I would be happy with this but I'd probably go SF at 3 because I don't Isaac falls to 7 but it's possible Fox could slide to 7 if this is how the picks ended up. I'd want Tatum at 3 and Fox/DSJ at 7.

I could see it going like this:
Phi - Fultz
LAL - Ball
Sac - Tatum
Pho - Isaac
Bos - Jackson
Orl - DSJ
Sac - Fox (or vice versa with DSJ)

I still think Isaac is the pick at 4 if we take Fox at 3 but Orlando would probably then take Tatum.

I am not sure that Isaac isn't the pick at 3 if Boston doesn't trade it. And I am not convinced they will trade it. They need to get more athletic and Isaac allows them to to do exactly that on the wing with Brown and Isaac.

It isn't beyond the realm of possibility we could be choosing between Fox and Ball at 5.
1) Fultz
2) Jackson
3) Isaac
4) Tatum
5) Fox or Ball.

I still think if Boston doesn't trade the pick then they take Tatum. They desperately need another go to scorer and that's what Tatum would give them. Brown is their young, defensive minded wing and they have Crowder as well so they need someone that can generate their own buckets and I don't think Isaac is necessarily that guy.

[dozencousins]

I would be happy with this but I'd probably go SF at 3 because I don't Isaac falls to 7 but it's possible Fox could slide to 7 if this is how the picks ended up. I'd want Tatum at 3 and Fox/DSJ at 7.

I could see it going like this:
Phi - Fultz
LAL - Ball
Sac - Tatum
Pho - Isaac
Bos - Jackson
Orl - DSJ
Sac - Fox (or vice versa with DSJ)

I still think Isaac is the pick at 4 if we take Fox at 3 but Orlando would probably then take Tatum.

I am not sure that Isaac isn't the pick at 3 if Boston doesn't trade it. And I am not convinced they will trade it. They need to get more athletic and Isaac allows them to to do exactly that on the wing with Brown and Isaac.

It isn't beyond the realm of possibility we could be choosing between Fox and Ball at 5.
1) Fultz
2) Jackson
3) Isaac
4) Tatum
5) Fox or Ball.

I still think if Boston doesn't trade the pick then they take Tatum. They desperately need another go to scorer and that's what Tatum would give them. Brown is their young, defensive minded wing and they have Crowder as well so they need someone that can generate their own buckets and I don't think Isaac is necessarily that guy.

I have Zero doubt that if Boston stays at # 3 they will take Tatum or Jackson
Lakers will take Ball or Jackson

[Sactowndog]

I would be happy with this but I'd probably go SF at 3 because I don't Isaac falls to 7 but it's possible Fox could slide to 7 if this is how the picks ended up. I'd want Tatum at 3 and Fox/DSJ at 7.

I could see it going like this:
Phi - Fultz
LAL - Ball
Sac - Tatum
Pho - Isaac
Bos - Jackson
Orl - DSJ
Sac - Fox (or vice versa with DSJ)

I still think Isaac is the pick at 4 if we take Fox at 3 but Orlando would probably then take Tatum.

I am not sure that Isaac isn't the pick at 3 if Boston doesn't trade it. And I am not convinced they will trade it. They need to get more athletic and Isaac allows them to to do exactly that on the wing with Brown and Isaac.

It isn't beyond the realm of possibility we could be choosing between Fox and Ball at 5.
1) Fultz
2) Jackson
3) Isaac
4) Tatum
5) Fox or Ball.

I still think if Boston doesn't trade the pick then they take Tatum. They desperately need another go to scorer and that's what Tatum would give them. Brown is their young, defensive minded wing and they have Crowder as well so they need someone that can generate their own buckets and I don't think Isaac is necessarily that guy.

Crowder is absolutely already a defensive minded wing. But if you watch their games they need an athletic big who can rebound as badly as they need a someone that can generate their own buckets. I also would not agree Brown is defensive minded. He needs to grow his game and he will. I am assuming they can get GH to sign as a free agent. If so they will have IT, Haywood and Horton as go to scorers. What they don't have is anyone to rebound the ball and can spot up on the three.

[VeganKingsFan]

I am not sure that Isaac isn't the pick at 3 if Boston doesn't trade it. And I am not convinced they will trade it. They need to get more athletic and Isaac allows them to to do exactly that on the wing with Brown and Isaac.

It isn't beyond the realm of possibility we could be choosing between Fox and Ball at 5.
1) Fultz
2) Jackson
3) Isaac
4) Tatum
5) Fox or Ball.

I still think if Boston doesn't trade the pick then they take Tatum. They desperately need another go to scorer and that's what Tatum would give them. Brown is their young, defensive minded wing and they have Crowder as well so they need someone that can generate their own buckets and I don't think Isaac is necessarily that guy.

Crowder is absolutely already a defensive minded wing. But if you watch their games they need an athletic big who can rebound as badly as they need a someone that can generate their own buckets. I also would not agree Brown is defensive minded. He needs to grow his game and he will. I am assuming they can get GH to sign as a free agent. If so they will have IT, Haywood and Horton as go to scorers. What they don't have is anyone to rebound the ball and can spot up on the three.

Who are Haywood and Horton?

[sdballer]

I still think if Boston doesn't trade the pick then they take Tatum. They desperately need another go to scorer and that's what Tatum would give them. Brown is their young, defensive minded wing and they have Crowder as well so they need someone that can generate their own buckets and I don't think Isaac is necessarily that guy.

Crowder is absolutely already a defensive minded wing. But if you watch their games they need an athletic big who can rebound as badly as they need a someone that can generate their own buckets. I also would not agree Brown is defensive minded. He needs to grow his game and he will. I am assuming they can get GH to sign as a free agent. If so they will have IT, Haywood and Horton as go to scorers. What they don't have is anyone to rebound the ball and can spot up on the three.

Who are Haywood and Horton?

Canadian singer/songwriter duo from the 70's. Think Simon and garfunkle but more "beardy"

[benchmobbin02]

I am not sure that Isaac isn't the pick at 3 if Boston doesn't trade it. And I am not convinced they will trade it. They need to get more athletic and Isaac allows them to to do exactly that on the wing with Brown and Isaac.

It isn't beyond the realm of possibility we could be choosing between Fox and Ball at 5.
1) Fultz
2) Jackson
3) Isaac
4) Tatum
5) Fox or Ball.

I still think if Boston doesn't trade the pick then they take Tatum. They desperately need another go to scorer and that's what Tatum would give them. Brown is their young, defensive minded wing and they have Crowder as well so they need someone that can generate their own buckets and I don't think Isaac is necessarily that guy.

Crowder is absolutely already a defensive minded wing. But if you watch their games they need an athletic big who can rebound as badly as they need a someone that can generate their own buckets. I also would not agree Brown is defensive minded. He needs to grow his game and he will. I am assuming they can get GH to sign as a free agent. If so they will have IT, Haywood and Horton as go to scorers. What they don't have is anyone to rebound the ball and can spot up on the three.

And they have 3 2nd rd picks in an extremely deep draft for big men to find one.

[VeganKingsFan]

I wouldn't be mad about getting John Collins with the 10th pick if they've done their homework and really like him. He is really efficient and a very good scorer and rebounder. Not to mention he is very athletic and his character seems pretty good. I really think he'll be able to step out and hit the 3 sooner rather than later. He also gets some blocked shots, so even though he needs to improve his defense, he's still somewhat of threat on that end. I have him 13th on my big board but he could end up being a dominant scorer and rebounder and be Joerger's Zach Randolph.

[Sactowndog]

I still think if Boston doesn't trade the pick then they take Tatum. They desperately need another go to scorer and that's what Tatum would give them. Brown is their young, defensive minded wing and they have Crowder as well so they need someone that can generate their own buckets and I don't think Isaac is necessarily that guy.

Crowder is absolutely already a defensive minded wing. But if you watch their games they need an athletic big who can rebound as badly as they need a someone that can generate their own buckets. I also would not agree Brown is defensive minded. He needs to grow his game and he will. I am assuming they can get GH to sign as a free agent. If so they will have IT, Haywood and Horton as go to scorers. What they don't have is anyone to rebound the ball and can spot up on the three.

Who are Haywood and Horton?

Sorry shouldn't try to post while working. Hayward and Horford.

[Sactowndog]

Crowder is absolutely already a defensive minded wing. But if you watch their games they need an athletic big who can rebound as badly as they need a someone that can generate their own buckets. I also would not agree Brown is defensive minded. He needs to grow his game and he will. I am assuming they can get GH to sign as a free agent. If so they will have IT, Haywood and Horton as go to scorers. What they don't have is anyone to rebound the ball and can spot up on the three.

Who are Haywood and Horton?

Canadian singer/songwriter duo from the 70's. Think Simon and garfunkle but more "beardy"

LOL

[perezident]

So much in these tweets. Kings have secret workouts. Ford being right. Kings must like John Collins. Wow.

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Solid player. Not a huge fan. He could be a better Jason Thompson I guess.

A very uninspiring player to say the least. I really wish Valde would ease up on these reaches on big men. Like he's trying hard to stumble upon a Cousins replacement