WOJ Kings thinking about firing Karl (Update pg. 3, It's happening per Stein)

[SacKingZZZ]

Saw this on Twitter. Its from a Nuggets fan when Karl was fired. EVERYONE READ THIS! sound familiar?

How have the nuggets done since Karl left...?

Those teams he had were built to this strengths as a coach though. All that needs to be looked at is that this Kings team isn't the Nuggets. It didn't look like it from day 1, they gave it a shot anyway, and maybe even in some ways they've outperformed expectations when you really think about it. This team can't do what Karl wants it to. Karl won't coach this team in the way it needs to be coached.

[bleeds_purple]

Am I crazy to think, in the seemingly inevitable event that we do fire Karl, that we should let Rondo be the player coach?

Give him a defensive coordinator and let him run the show otherwise. I feel like the players would be far more accountable to Rondo than anyone else right now.

Yea. I'm probably crazy.

It's illegal under the CBA I think.

Seems you're correct. It could still work with him as a "de-facto" coach. But the whole fun of the idea is ruined.

[bleeds_purple]

Saw this on Twitter. Its from a Nuggets fan when Karl was fired. EVERYONE READ THIS! sound familiar?

Wow. That's honestly rather depressing. All you need to do is change a few names and you can confuse someone into thinking that was written about our team.

[City of Trees]

I see similarities between that post and plenty of disgruntled fans post ....

Don't come over here and try to discredit Kings fans with that "disgruntled" jab. These fans are the ones who watch the games and see what's going on.

Same thing happened with thibbs in Chicago .... And he was actually winning games .... It's easy to complain

Difference between Thibs and Karl is GK has a long track record, so its easy for Kings fans to see what road this was heading down.... Thibs doesn't have that HC track record so Bulls fans didn't know what to expect.

[City of Trees]

LOL from what I gather Rondo stuck up for Karl last night.... So it only makes complete sense that today Karl blasts Rondo through the media.

[The Rebel]

Saw this on Twitter. Its from a Nuggets fan when Karl was fired. EVERYONE READ THIS! sound familiar?

How have the nuggets done since Karl left...?

I love how people ignore the fact that the Nuggets lost Gallo, Igoudala, Koufos, Andre Miller, McGee, and Brewer off of that 57 win team by December of the next season or 6 of their 9 man rotations. Shaw was also considerably worse than Karl many of us Nuggets fans know it, and that is one reason so many quit complaining about Karl, however Karl had plenty of issues and eathbu and I agree on most of the issues with Karl.

From what I understand one of the reasons Malone was fired was that he did not want to play fast with the Kings, however the way he was playing was a very good fit with the personnel he had. That is one question I have with Karl, Kings fans are right in that the drive and kick with high pace does not fit their personnel, but is it Karl that is the problem or is it Ranadive requiring it? Karl usually finds ways to get guys to put up their best career stats, and while all his players outside of his scrub love guys seem to have a love hate relationship with him they usually win. However if Karl was or is not adjusting his style to fit his roster without orders from above to play the way he is, then he has to be fired at this point. If he is being forced into a style that does not fit his players by Ranadive, than changing coaches is not going to help, they either need to get Ranadive to STFU or totally rebuild the roster.

[teerfour+40LG]

lol if you think changing the coach is going to do anything. Especially changing to a guy like Thibs, who'll coddle Cousins even less than Karl.

If they fire Karl, the ONLY option is Calipari.

The real difference between Thibs and Karl is that Thibs loves Cousins. He also probably wouldn't try to run a stupid scheme and actually knows how to use Belinelli.

Source, Feb 1, 2016 at 30:10: https://soundcloud.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast/ep-58-tom-thibodeau

I have been wondering if firing Karl is a risk, but I realized that there is almost nothing to gain by keeping him. He is running a system that doesn't fit the players, and he doesn't want to change it, and he was hired before the current GM. If you keep him, you're hoping for a miracle, whereas If you fired Karl, all you would have to do theoretically is replace him with someone who was capable and willing to run a better fitting system, a much easier goal than a miracle.

[SacKingZZZ]

LOL from what I gather Rondo stuck up for Karl last night.... So it only makes complete sense that today Karl blasts Rondo through the media.

Yeah, this is done for. Too bad too because Karl actually has a point on that one. Rondo is a HUGE part of the defensive woes. That vid posted in the other thread showed it plain as day too.

[SacKingZZZ]

Saw this on Twitter. Its from a Nuggets fan when Karl was fired. EVERYONE READ THIS! sound familiar?

How have the nuggets done since Karl left...?

I love how people ignore the fact that the Nuggets lost Gallo, Igoudala, Koufos, Andre Miller, McGee, and Brewer off of that 57 win team by December of the next season or 6 of their 9 man rotations. Shaw was also considerably worse than Karl many of us Nuggets fans know it, and that is one reason so many quit complaining about Karl, however Karl had plenty of issues and eathbu and I agree on most of the issues with Karl.

From what I understand one of the reasons Malone was fired was that he did not want to play fast with the Kings, however the way he was playing was a very good fit with the personnel he had. That is one question I have with Karl, Kings fans are right in that the drive and kick with high pace does not fit their personnel, but is it Karl that is the problem or is it Ranadive requiring it? Karl usually finds ways to get guys to put up their best career stats, and while all his players outside of his scrub love guys seem to have a love hate relationship with him they usually win. However if Karl was or is not adjusting his style to fit his roster without orders from above to play the way he is, then he has to be fired at this point. If he is being forced into a style that does not fit his players by Ranadive, than changing coaches is not going to help, they either need to get Ranadive to STFU or totally rebuild the roster.

Listening to Ranadive after last year it's sounds likes he's totally hands off. He comes to the games and that's about the extent of it. I know he's brought up some whacky ideas in the past but I'm not sure if a lot of what was going on was Mully/PDA or Vivek.

[dozencousins]

Say goodbye to KARL .

[blind prophet]

Say goodbye to KARL .

But he only tied in points allowed high for the season in the 1st with 46.

[KF10]

I wouldn't mind a coaching change AND a roster makeover either.

[dozencousins]

Say goodbye to KARL .

But he only tied in points allowed high for the season in the 1st with 46.

LMAO on your comment funny but sad for us !

[SacKingZZZ]

I wouldn't mind a coaching change AND a roster makeover either.

I have some fears that this will get/has gotten so bad that Cuz is now on the table as well. Thats why you can't let things go even 1 more game farther than they should.

The best option IMO is to attempt to re-tool with a defender or two at the deadline, but it might also be time to sell and hope to rebuild around Cuz in the summer.

[KF10]

lol

[tweet]https://twitter.com/aaronbruski/status/696433762872078336[/tweet]

Bobby's response to that tweet above:

"How is this not bad basketball, when you give up 128 points?" – Bobby Jackson

[tweet]https://twitter.com/aaronbruski/status/696434210228146176[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/aaronbruski/status/696435267415113728[/tweet]

Bobby Jackson has been on point for the past month or so.

[KF10]

It's eerily quiet so far. What's the deal?

[SacKingZZZ]

Probably concerned about the media blasting them for firing another coach. Just get it done guys. The playoffs this year grow more and more unlikely with every second they waste.

[Wolfay]

It's not so much the media. It's Vivek's partners worried about the money.

And one can only hope Cousins is on the table. Everyone should be.

[City of Trees]

It's not so much the media. It's Vivek's partners worried about the money.

And one can only hope Cousins is on the table. Everyone should be.

I can see the pros to complete reset although I don't want to go through it.

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[SacKingZZZ]

Karl has one season left after his, swallowing 5 million wouldn't be the end of the world. Not by a long shot. If they are worried about it, cutting salary at the deadline might be in order anyway.