OxAndFox wrote:LightTheBeam wrote:BoogieTime wrote:
I agree this will be the direction, but I'm against it. We trade #13 for some close to 30 never impacted winning guys. The next Barnes for our team. Again I think this is what we end up doing, but unless we add more picks and find a way to get Lauri, Bridges, etc.. seems like a long term mistake.
In that range last year
Lively, Hawkins, george, jaime, pod, whitmore. 6 hits between 12-20
The year before
Jdub, duren, Williams, eason, branham
The year before
Murphy, sengun, Moody, jalen Johnson
I think there's a 30-50% chance we hit a Solid player, and each of these drafts had what looks like a few difference makers. I'd rather risk the high upside then trade the pick for kuzma or jerami grant.
Sabonis and Fox are mid 20s. Even if we draft them it doesn't mean that the guy we take at 13 can't be moved later. Maybe for more value if they play well. But the current trade market looks awful
Spot on.
The problem the Kings are going to face...yet again, is the fact there are teams with far better assets.
Is it true Memphis is putting #9 up for grabs?
is it true Houston is putting #3 up for grabs?
I think both could very well be so the market for a lottery pick has a lot of teams selling.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs deal one or both lottery picks and OKC may go in several directions.
The Kings have the worst hand in all of these. Maybe the saving grace is there isn't much difference between say 5-15 in the draft and a team looking to save a few dollars could feel their guy is still there at #13 which won't cost as much as say 6 or so.
Yup agreed with all this, although the last part may be a little wishful thinking. It's why I was so damn upset by last years off-season. It was really a huge chance squandered. We paid big money to retain Barnes, traded for Duarte, signed Sasha, and gave extra money to Sabonis to lock him up early. Squandered opportunity. We ran it back and we saw what happened, the entirety of the west got a hell of a lot better.
Thunder/Den/Wolves - not going away any time soon
Rockets/Spurs - up and coming filled with youth and assets
Mavericks/Pelicans - not old and better than us
Suns/Lakers/Clippers/Warriors - starting to fade as they keep getting older, but we've seen with those larger markets they are able to attract stars pretty easily.
We are really in a similar boat as Memphis. Nice core, but going to be hard to add to it. I'd say they might be a little better off than us.
I don't want to be doom and gloom. I'm happy we are competitive. I'm happy we finally developed a player like Keon. I just hate to think that we add a guy like Jerami Grant/Kuzma in another Huerter type move where we doom ourselves. Looking above, which of those teams does that move the needle against? We absolutely need to start thinking long term.
Long post but here's my goal.
1. Resign Monk
2. Move off Barnes/Huerter/Sasha/Duarte. Barnes/Huerter for John Collins? Sasha/Duarte/Davion/as many 2nds as it takes to Brooklyn for DFS/Schroder? Jordi gets some familiar guys while he gears up the tank. (some think expiring DFS will get a 1st, I don't but we will see. Portland 2nd + 2-3 sac 2nds may be enough)
3. Draft at #13. Take the best wing with length available. Take a freaking chance. Maybe we get the next Jalen Williams, Jalen Johnson, Trey Murphy, or maybe its a bust.
4. Continue to develop Murray, Keon, Colby, #13.
Fox - Keon - Murray - DFS - Sabonis
Schroder - Colby - Monk - #13 - Lyles - Collins
This team is bigger, faster, more athletic, has more 2 way players, and another young player to develop. Maybe im wishful thinking, but this is what I'd try to do.