24-25 Trade Thread

[OxAndFox]

I have a bad feeling the Kings are going to trade for one of Grant/Kuzma/BI/Cam and send out at least 2 x 1sts.
Will be a good squad. But not one that has any chance at competing more than a first round team, maybe a second round team.

[KF10]

Giving up that ‘25 POR second rounder hurts. That was a stacked draft class next year and likely a 31-35 range too.

[OxAndFox]

That Portland 2nd was just over the top.
Monte missed out on Deni. Missed on AJ Griffin for nothing.

Let's see where the team ends up during training camp, but so far it's been pretty disappointing even with a really good pick in the draft.

[FarBeyondDriven]

no hyperbole, this is legit one of the worst trades I've ever seen. McDaniels is a nobody that we could actually cut. And we traded away actual contributing NBA talent plus missed out on for sure a starting caliber talent with #45 and who knows with the future 2nd. Just really bottom of the barrel stuff from. We are an embarrassment. I don't blame Fox for not signing an extension.

[OxAndFox]

no hyperbole, this is legit one of the worst trades I've ever seen. McDaniels is a nobody that we could actually cut. And we traded away actual contributing NBA talent plus missed out on for sure a starting caliber talent with #45 and who knows with the future 2nd. Just really bottom of the barrel stuff from. We are an embarrassment. I don't blame Fox for not signing an extension.

I wouldn't go THAT far. But for sure it was a dumb trade. We get it, it was financial. But for that same pick (#45) you could have gone and grabbed AJ Griffin.

If you HAD to do the trade after that because you have something else lined up, then do the '25 2nd round picks. You just missed on a 20yo guy on his rookie contract that not only could help next season (depending on if he is all good mentally), but far into the future as well.

It's still yet another year of money savings in the 2nd round. Just this time it helps both Vivek and the FO.

[FarBeyondDriven]

no hyperbole, this is legit one of the worst trades I've ever seen. McDaniels is a nobody that we could actually cut. And we traded away actual contributing NBA talent plus missed out on for sure a starting caliber talent with #45 and who knows with the future 2nd. Just really bottom of the barrel stuff from. We are an embarrassment. I don't blame Fox for not signing an extension.

I wouldn't go THAT far. But for sure it was a dumb trade. We get it, it was financial. But for that same pick (#45) you could have gone and grabbed AJ Griffin.

If you HAD to do the trade after that because you have something else lined up, then do the '25 2nd round picks. You just missed on a 20yo guy on his rookie contract that not only could help next season (depending on if he is all good mentally), but far into the future as well.

It's still yet another year of money savings in the 2nd round. Just this time it helps both Vivek and the FO.

If before the draft someone suggested we'd make one of these trades, you'd dismiss it as nonsense or pointless if true:

#45 for McDaniels
2025 Portland 2nd (likely high 2nd round pick) for McDaniels
Sasha for McDaniels
Mitchell for McDaniels

but we COMBINED all of that for him!!!! This is laughable. McNair does realize this is Jalen not Jaden right?

[LightTheBeam]

no hyperbole, this is legit one of the worst trades I've ever seen. McDaniels is a nobody that we could actually cut. And we traded away actual contributing NBA talent plus missed out on for sure a starting caliber talent with #45 and who knows with the future 2nd. Just really bottom of the barrel stuff from. We are an embarrassment. I don't blame Fox for not signing an extension.

I wouldn't go THAT far. But for sure it was a dumb trade. We get it, it was financial. But for that same pick (#45) you could have gone and grabbed AJ Griffin.

If you HAD to do the trade after that because you have something else lined up, then do the '25 2nd round picks. You just missed on a 20yo guy on his rookie contract that not only could help next season (depending on if he is all good mentally), but far into the future as well.

It's still yet another year of money savings in the 2nd round. Just this time it helps both Vivek and the FO.

If before the draft someone suggested we'd make one of these trades, you'd dismiss it as nonsense or pointless if true:

#45 for McDaniels
2025 Portland 2nd (likely high 2nd round pick) for McDaniels
Sasha for McDaniels
Mitchell for McDaniels

but we COMBINED all of that for him!!!! This is laughable. McNair does realize this is Jalen not Jaden right?

To be fair it was definitely an overpay salary dump.

But it seems like thats just the cost right now.

Minnesota drafted Wendell Moore #26 two years ago, and just traded #37 to dump his 2.5 million dollar contract
Denver spent 3 2nds to dump Reggie Jackson 5 million.

We didn't make this trade for Jalen McDaniels who will probably never see the floor in any real minutes. We did this to save 8.3 million, drop below the 1st apron, open up the MLE and ability to trade and take back 125% salary.

Now... I'm not trusting Monte to do anything with that open space. I'm at the point where "trust in Monte" blindly is dead. He needs to prove he's going to do something with this flexibility.

Fox/Monk
Keon/Carter/Colby
Keegan/Huerter/Duarte
Barnes/Lyles
Sabonis

They need to get two more forwards using Barnes/Huerter/Duarte/MLE. If they are able to do that then I'll be happy at the way the roster rounded out. Again I'm not blindly supporting this deal, but this isn't the one to get me that mad. Davion is trash and costed us games last year, and we had no plans for Sasha. I'm not losing sleep over anything we lost if it means we add more later. If this is it, and the roster above is starting next year, ya Monte needs to be fired.

[OxAndFox]

no hyperbole, this is legit one of the worst trades I've ever seen. McDaniels is a nobody that we could actually cut. And we traded away actual contributing NBA talent plus missed out on for sure a starting caliber talent with #45 and who knows with the future 2nd. Just really bottom of the barrel stuff from. We are an embarrassment. I don't blame Fox for not signing an extension.

I wouldn't go THAT far. But for sure it was a dumb trade. We get it, it was financial. But for that same pick (#45) you could have gone and grabbed AJ Griffin.

If you HAD to do the trade after that because you have something else lined up, then do the '25 2nd round picks. You just missed on a 20yo guy on his rookie contract that not only could help next season (depending on if he is all good mentally), but far into the future as well.

It's still yet another year of money savings in the 2nd round. Just this time it helps both Vivek and the FO.

If before the draft someone suggested we'd make one of these trades, you'd dismiss it as nonsense or pointless if true:

#45 for McDaniels
2025 Portland 2nd (likely high 2nd round pick) for McDaniels
Sasha for McDaniels
Mitchell for McDaniels

but we COMBINED all of that for him!!!! This is laughable. McNair does realize this is Jalen not Jaden right?

Yes I agree to a certain extent. It's combining the money together that made it tougher.
Denver traded 3 x 2nds to get off Reggie's $5m. The Kings get off $8m.

Back in the Toronto trade thread of Brown/McDaniels I was going to joke around then and say the Kings only do this as a recruitment policy to get Jaden from the Wolves if they start cutting salary. Please make that the plan that comes true Monte.

[OxAndFox]

I wouldn't go THAT far. But for sure it was a dumb trade. We get it, it was financial. But for that same pick (#45) you could have gone and grabbed AJ Griffin.

If you HAD to do the trade after that because you have something else lined up, then do the '25 2nd round picks. You just missed on a 20yo guy on his rookie contract that not only could help next season (depending on if he is all good mentally), but far into the future as well.

It's still yet another year of money savings in the 2nd round. Just this time it helps both Vivek and the FO.

If before the draft someone suggested we'd make one of these trades, you'd dismiss it as nonsense or pointless if true:

#45 for McDaniels
2025 Portland 2nd (likely high 2nd round pick) for McDaniels
Sasha for McDaniels
Mitchell for McDaniels

but we COMBINED all of that for him!!!! This is laughable. McNair does realize this is Jalen not Jaden right?

To be fair it was definitely an overpay salary dump.

But it seems like thats just the cost right now.

Minnesota drafted Wendell Moore #26 two years ago, and just traded #37 to dump his 2.5 million dollar contract
Denver spent 3 2nds to dump Reggie Jackson 5 million.

We didn't make this trade for Jalen McDaniels who will probably never see the floor in any real minutes. We did this to save 8.3 million, drop below the 1st apron, open up the MLE and ability to trade and take back 125% salary.

Now... I'm not trusting Monte to do anything with that open space. I'm at the point where "trust in Monte" blindly is dead. He needs to prove he's going to do something with this flexibility.

Fox/Monk
Keon/Carter/Colby
Keegan/Huerter/Duarte
Barnes/Lyles
Sabonis

They need to get two more forwards using Barnes/Huerter/Duarte/MLE. If they are able to do that then I'll be happy at the way the roster rounded out. Again I'm not blindly supporting this deal, but this isn't the one to get me that mad. Davion is trash and costed us games last year, and we had no plans for Sasha. I'm not losing sleep over anything we lost if it means we add more later. If this is it, and the roster above is starting next year, ya Monte needs to be fired.

Seriously the Kings need to get someone in that FO that can get the job done with trades. Monte isn't good right now. His drafting is spot on, trading though, rough as guts.
If he ends up with a real difference maker without spending the future then I will be happy, but I have doubts and he may just be seeing the guy that almost makes big trades only to make small ones. Maybe his only big one in Hali for Sabonis has made him gun shy.

[LightTheBeam]

If before the draft someone suggested we'd make one of these trades, you'd dismiss it as nonsense or pointless if true:

#45 for McDaniels
2025 Portland 2nd (likely high 2nd round pick) for McDaniels
Sasha for McDaniels
Mitchell for McDaniels

but we COMBINED all of that for him!!!! This is laughable. McNair does realize this is Jalen not Jaden right?

To be fair it was definitely an overpay salary dump.

But it seems like thats just the cost right now.

Minnesota drafted Wendell Moore #26 two years ago, and just traded #37 to dump his 2.5 million dollar contract
Denver spent 3 2nds to dump Reggie Jackson 5 million.

We didn't make this trade for Jalen McDaniels who will probably never see the floor in any real minutes. We did this to save 8.3 million, drop below the 1st apron, open up the MLE and ability to trade and take back 125% salary.

Now... I'm not trusting Monte to do anything with that open space. I'm at the point where "trust in Monte" blindly is dead. He needs to prove he's going to do something with this flexibility.

Fox/Monk
Keon/Carter/Colby
Keegan/Huerter/Duarte
Barnes/Lyles
Sabonis

They need to get two more forwards using Barnes/Huerter/Duarte/MLE. If they are able to do that then I'll be happy at the way the roster rounded out. Again I'm not blindly supporting this deal, but this isn't the one to get me that mad. Davion is trash and costed us games last year, and we had no plans for Sasha. I'm not losing sleep over anything we lost if it means we add more later. If this is it, and the roster above is starting next year, ya Monte needs to be fired.

Seriously the Kings need to get someone in that FO that can get the job done with trades. Monte isn't good right now. His drafting is spot on, trading though, rough as guts.
If he ends up with a real difference maker without spending the future then I will be happy, but I have doubts and he may just be seeing the guy that almost makes big trades only to make small ones. Maybe his only big one in Hali for Sabonis has made him gun shy.

Yea I agree the inactivity going on 2 years is pretty sad. And I really hope its not some trash non needle moving trade like Huerter and a future 1st for cam johnson or DFS.

I really hope he gets aggressive and maxs out our future 1sts for Lauri. With how good our perimeter defense is I love his fit. Forget it

Huerter + Barnes + 3 future 1sts + 2 swaps for Lauri. I think the Kings are contenders with him.

[donkeylips]

monte doesnt seem to value 2nd rounds picks that much. maybe has nightmares of the woodard and ramsay draft.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I wouldn't go THAT far. But for sure it was a dumb trade. We get it, it was financial. But for that same pick (#45) you could have gone and grabbed AJ Griffin.

If you HAD to do the trade after that because you have something else lined up, then do the '25 2nd round picks. You just missed on a 20yo guy on his rookie contract that not only could help next season (depending on if he is all good mentally), but far into the future as well.

It's still yet another year of money savings in the 2nd round. Just this time it helps both Vivek and the FO.

If before the draft someone suggested we'd make one of these trades, you'd dismiss it as nonsense or pointless if true:

#45 for McDaniels
2025 Portland 2nd (likely high 2nd round pick) for McDaniels
Sasha for McDaniels
Mitchell for McDaniels

but we COMBINED all of that for him!!!! This is laughable. McNair does realize this is Jalen not Jaden right?

To be fair it was definitely an overpay salary dump.

But it seems like thats just the cost right now.

Minnesota drafted Wendell Moore #26 two years ago, and just traded #37 to dump his 2.5 million dollar contract
Denver spent 3 2nds to dump Reggie Jackson 5 million.

We didn't make this trade for Jalen McDaniels who will probably never see the floor in any real minutes. We did this to save 8.3 million, drop below the 1st apron, open up the MLE and ability to trade and take back 125% salary.

Now... I'm not trusting Monte to do anything with that open space. I'm at the point where "trust in Monte" blindly is dead. He needs to prove he's going to do something with this flexibility.

Fox/Monk
Keon/Carter/Colby
Keegan/Huerter/Duarte
Barnes/Lyles
Sabonis

They need to get two more forwards using Barnes/Huerter/Duarte/MLE. If they are able to do that then I'll be happy at the way the roster rounded out. Again I'm not blindly supporting this deal, but this isn't the one to get me that mad. Davion is trash and costed us games last year, and we had no plans for Sasha. I'm not losing sleep over anything we lost if it means we add more later. If this is it, and the roster above is starting next year, ya Monte needs to be fired.

the difference is those teams are vying for championships while we're vying for the play-in and they're dealing with repeater taxes which can get egregious plus 1st and 2nd aprons whereas we're just saving our owner money.

If you're Fox and his team and you see these moves, you can't be happy. I wouldn't be shocked if he demanded a trade this Summer now. I thought he'd at least see how it goes and revisit next off-season but he gains nothing as far as making more money by staying since that is tied to him making all-nba and that is tied to team success which we won't have. Why waste a prime year in SAC for a franchise going nowhere? I'm not being dramatic, I'm positive they're pissed right now seeing everyone around us fortifying their teams with talent injections and trades while we treadmill.

[BoogieTime]

I would tend to think it’s just the market, looks like all other cap teams have designs on free agency?

Beforehand I would’ve had Davion/Sasha slightly negative. Extra 2nd looks to be landscape

[LightTheBeam]

If before the draft someone suggested we'd make one of these trades, you'd dismiss it as nonsense or pointless if true:

#45 for McDaniels
2025 Portland 2nd (likely high 2nd round pick) for McDaniels
Sasha for McDaniels
Mitchell for McDaniels

but we COMBINED all of that for him!!!! This is laughable. McNair does realize this is Jalen not Jaden right?

To be fair it was definitely an overpay salary dump.

But it seems like thats just the cost right now.

Minnesota drafted Wendell Moore #26 two years ago, and just traded #37 to dump his 2.5 million dollar contract
Denver spent 3 2nds to dump Reggie Jackson 5 million.

We didn't make this trade for Jalen McDaniels who will probably never see the floor in any real minutes. We did this to save 8.3 million, drop below the 1st apron, open up the MLE and ability to trade and take back 125% salary.

Now... I'm not trusting Monte to do anything with that open space. I'm at the point where "trust in Monte" blindly is dead. He needs to prove he's going to do something with this flexibility.

Fox/Monk
Keon/Carter/Colby
Keegan/Huerter/Duarte
Barnes/Lyles
Sabonis

They need to get two more forwards using Barnes/Huerter/Duarte/MLE. If they are able to do that then I'll be happy at the way the roster rounded out. Again I'm not blindly supporting this deal, but this isn't the one to get me that mad. Davion is trash and costed us games last year, and we had no plans for Sasha. I'm not losing sleep over anything we lost if it means we add more later. If this is it, and the roster above is starting next year, ya Monte needs to be fired.

the difference is those teams are vying for championships while we're vying for the play-in and they're dealing with repeater taxes which can get egregious plus 1st and 2nd aprons whereas we're just saving our owner money.

If you're Fox and his team and you see these moves, you can't be happy. I wouldn't be shocked if he demanded a trade this Summer now. I thought he'd at least see how it goes and revisit next off-season but he gains nothing as far as making more money by staying since that is tied to him making all-nba and that is tied to team success which we won't have. Why waste a prime year in SAC for a franchise going nowhere? I'm not being dramatic, I'm positive they're pissed right now seeing everyone around us fortifying their teams with talent injections and trades while we treadmill.

I think you are overreacting man. I felt this way last year during the Holmes trade, because I knew what was coming and you don't ditch your first for that.

Davion and Sasha are bad players who shouldn't get minutes on any good teams. Part of the process this summer was addition by subtraction. We watched Minnesota, okc, Boston, and realized we aren't nearly as athletic. That stemmed from way too short davion, and unathletic Sasha, Barnes, Huerter. 2 of those guys were just kicked out, and we opened up ability to make more moves, while adding a multi tool Swiss army knife who was rated out as the best athlete of the draft in the Jrue Holiday mold. Can defend 3 positions easily.

I'm not content, but I'm happy with the direction. I need more. I'm confident the team is better today than it was. I'm not gonna freak out that we lost trash players or 2nd rounders we refuse to play anyways.

If Huerter/Barnes are moved for a capable pf, between the 2 additions + addition by subtraction this team will be way better.

Just look at Dallas. 11th seed. Playing a bunch of trash cans like Powell, Dinwiddie, Christian wood, Bullock. They kick these bums out and replace them with PJ washington, Lively, DJJ, Gafford, not Even stars or anything, just solid role players, and suddenly they make the finals. The west is soo bunched up, we aren't far away from getting a chance to compete there. It's the right moves and cleaning the garbage off the team imo.

[LightTheBeam]

A name we haven't heard in awhile is Wiggins.

I still love him as a buy low opportunity.

Does Huerter + Duarte make sense for GS who looks like Klay is leaving?

Wiggins had his best years with Mike. Significantly better than Barnes defensively but we would still keep Barnes in this scenario.

Fox/Monk
Keon/Carter
Wiggins/Barnes
Keegan/Lyles
Sabonis

I like it.

Curry/Pod
Huerter/Payton
Kuminga/Moody
Draymond
Trayce

[BoogieTime]

A name we haven't heard in awhile is Wiggins.

I still love him as a buy low opportunity.

Does Huerter + Duarte make sense for GS who looks like Klay is leaving?

Wiggins had his best years with Mike. Significantly better than Barnes defensively but we would still keep Barnes in this scenario.

Fox/Monk
Keon/Carter
Wiggins/Barnes
Keegan/Lyles
Sabonis

I like it.

Curry/Pod
Huerter/Payton
Kuminga/Moody
Draymond
Trayce

I hear him quite often from you

He’s in a place he should care already

[OGSactownballer]

A name we haven't heard in awhile is Wiggins.

I still love him as a buy low opportunity.

Does Huerter + Duarte make sense for GS who looks like Klay is leaving?

Wiggins had his best years with Mike. Significantly better than Barnes defensively but we would still keep Barnes in this scenario.

Fox/Monk
Keon/Carter
Wiggins/Barnes
Keegan/Lyles
Sabonis

I like it.

Curry/Pod
Huerter/Payton
Kuminga/Moody
Draymond
Trayce

I would NEVER touch Wiggins.

Here’s a guy who has literally said he doesn’t care about basketball except to make his money. Literally showed up and played a year as a key component on a championship team to get that bag. Then immediately disappeared back into the IDGAF of his normal routine.

No thanks no way!

[OxAndFox]

With the DJM trade it seems like 2 firsts wasn't as much as they wanted.
They have Yves Missi on the roster and that's it with bigs.
I wonder where they are going. CJ or Ingram trade that brings a big back.
Can the Kings get in on it with Huerter/Barnes/Pick(s) to a 3rd team that sends a big to NOP.

I'm thinking Brook Lopez could be their target.

[KF10]

I want Monte try to get Ingram. Dude has flaws but he is a serious upgrade over what we have on roster.

[LightTheBeam]

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