2024-25 General Thread

[OGSactownballer]

Well most of the cheaper fits are off the board.

Naji Marshall
DJJ
Jalen smith
Oubre

The optimistic side of me says Monte is pushing in for Ingram/Lauri and Kuzma is his backup option. He can still sign Hayward Highsmith/Kyle Anderson off the bench.

The other hand saying we don't have the assets to get these guys and nobody wants to come here so they are taking less for better teams/playing opportunity.

And this is where I don’t like Monte.

He’s just a little too conservative when it comes to the big move. And that ironic considering that his best deal that entirely changed the outlook for this franchise was a super risky deal.

But this is the reason why NYK went out early and overpaid to get THE GUY they felt put them into the position to be contenders. A lot of guys want the security and the promise of PT and will take what seems a little less. And teams that got their trade business done early so they aren’t sitting on their hands waiting are getting to grab those guys up.

My parents always taught me when it comes time to make a decision, S&$t or get off the pot. Make the decision and move forward with confidence in yourself.

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[OxAndFox]

I will add to the don't add Keegan in a Lauri trade in that it should be a quick negotiation if the Kings were to get him.
Because it's basically whatever you want outside of that.
I think you go with Huerter/Keon/'27 1st/'29 1st/'31 1st/'28 Swap. Danny gets his young upside guy that he can cash in at the end of this season in Keon.
If that doesn't get it done for a guy that isn't extended then walk away.

[OxAndFox]

Well most of the cheaper fits are off the board.

Naji Marshall
DJJ
Jalen smith
Oubre

The optimistic side of me says Monte is pushing in for Ingram/Lauri and Kuzma is his backup option. He can still sign Hayward Highsmith/Kyle Anderson off the bench.

The other hand saying we don't have the assets to get these guys and nobody wants to come here so they are taking less for better teams/playing opportunity.

And this is where I don’t like Monte.

He’s just a little too conservative when it comes to the big move. And that ironic considering that his best deal that entirely changed the outlook for this franchise was a super risky deal.

But this is the reason why NYK went out early and overpaid to get THE GUY they felt put them into the position to be contenders. A lot of guys want the security and the promise of PT and will take what seems a little less. And teams that got their trade business done early so they aren’t sitting on their hands waiting are getting to grab those guys up.

My parents always taught me when it comes time to make a decision, S&$t or get off the pot. Make the decision and move forward with confidence in yourself.

Absolutely spot on.
While everyone is making moves to improve their roster Monte and the FO are waiting for the perfect trade. They just keep on waiting though.
Now he might get something done eventually this off season, I mean he HAS to, but it's not stopping him from signing someone to the MLE.
There aren't many options out there now though.

[Lost in LA]

We have to be realistic as we are offering the fringe players of a Kings team that did not even make the playoffs, with Barnes visibly declining already. I am not sure that the offering excites potential trade partners. The key elements of the regular season success are not on offer, neither is Murray, who I think the Kings' fans over rate. We should know in the next 48 hours where we end up.

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[Lost in LA]

Buddy Hield to the Warriors, one less team to worry about probably!

[Lost in LA]

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Don't understand how the Kings fit into this unless it is Lavine and DeMar in a bigger packge deal. DeMar is 35 and plays a mid range game which the Kings rarely use.

[typedrat]

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Definitely not ideal.

[codydaze]

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So with Carter out to start the season maybe we hold on to Huerter until at least the deadline to see what we can do?

Fox/Monk
Keon/Huerter
Derozan/(FA?)
Keegan/Lyles
Sabonis/Len

I like Haywood Highsmith as a free agent target for that backup forward spot.

[OxAndFox]

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So with Carter out to start the season maybe we hold on to Huerter until at least the deadline to see what we can do?

Fox/Monk
Keon/Huerter
Derozan/(FA?)
Keegan/Lyles
Sabonis/Len

I like Haywood Highsmith as a free agent target for that backup forward spot.

I get this feeling they aren't thinking of Keon as a starter. And if that is the case Huerter needs to start and come out firing.
The talk has been there is still interest in him from other teams. If he comes out and shoots the ball well he will have value.

Preferably I would want to go and get Portis for Huerter. Whether that is direct with Milwaukee or part of a 3 teamer.

[codydaze]

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So with Carter out to start the season maybe we hold on to Huerter until at least the deadline to see what we can do?

Fox/Monk
Keon/Huerter
Derozan/(FA?)
Keegan/Lyles
Sabonis/Len

I like Haywood Highsmith as a free agent target for that backup forward spot.

I get this feeling they aren't thinking of Keon as a starter. And if that is the case Huerter needs to start and come out firing.
The talk has been there is still interest in him from other teams. If he comes out and shoots the ball well he will have value.

Preferably I would want to go and get Portis for Huerter. Whether that is direct with Milwaukee or part of a 3 teamer.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Huerter in the starting lineup opening night. I do think Keon's defense is going to end up being the better fit there but Huerter is going to get lots of open looks so should be a good opportunity for him to bounce back.

[OxAndFox]

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So with Carter out to start the season maybe we hold on to Huerter until at least the deadline to see what we can do?

Fox/Monk
Keon/Huerter
Derozan/(FA?)
Keegan/Lyles
Sabonis/Len

I like Haywood Highsmith as a free agent target for that backup forward spot.

I get this feeling they aren't thinking of Keon as a starter. And if that is the case Huerter needs to start and come out firing.
The talk has been there is still interest in him from other teams. If he comes out and shoots the ball well he will have value.

Preferably I would want to go and get Portis for Huerter. Whether that is direct with Milwaukee or part of a 3 teamer.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Huerter in the starting lineup opening night. I do think Keon's defense is going to end up being the better fit there but Huerter is going to get lots of open looks so should be a good opportunity for him to bounce back.

And it will be interesting to see what changes they make to the offense, because if Huerter does go out, Keegan is the only movement type shooter on the team and he really isn't that good at it either. Would negate the Sabonis hand off game a little bit.

I would like to see a Huerter trade early in the season to secure more length and hopefully move DDR down to the SG spot which will also allow Keon to come in and play more minutes.
Either way, someone is getting squeezed for minutes early in the season. I believe Keon should be a 22-24mpg guy this season. He might only get 10-12mpg early in the season though.

[OxAndFox]

What if the Kings made Trey Lyles the starter? Perhaps just for the start of the season.

Fox/DDR/Keegan/Lyles/Sabonis
This way you have the shooters to space the floor in Lyles and Keegan, but Lyles gives the Kings better size, better rebounding and better D than Barnes did. The concern would be slow-footed players TBH, but Barnes wasn't nimble himself on D.

Keegan plays backup 4 minutes.
Monk, Keon, and Huerter are off the bench with Len

McLaughlin, Colby, other signings as depth

I don't know why the Kings didn't sign Kessler. If anything he is decent depth that has length, knows the team and what the coaches are after.

[blind prophet]

If we fail to make another trade what do you guys think of adding Metu for PF/C depth at the minimum?

[FarBeyondDriven]

love how our fanbase is giving McNair a pass for drafting damaged goods. First of all, he used the pick on an older player seemingly because he wants someone ready to contribute, but he's injured and likely won't play this season thus defeating the purpose. Not to mention he played a position we're deep in. McNair seems to escape a lot of blame for his disastrous 2023 season and 2024 draft. I don't get it.

[LightTheBeam]

love how our fanbase is giving McNair a pass for drafting damaged goods. First of all, he used the pick on an older player seemingly because he wants someone ready to contribute, but he's injured and likely won't play this season thus defeating the purpose. Not to mention he played a position we're deep in. McNair seems to escape a lot of blame for his disastrous 2023 season and 2024 draft. I don't get it.

I am one of Monte's biggest critics. Here's what I'll say about this.

My gripe about the pick initially was partially his position, partially that we didnt use the pick to upgrade. Well, we went and got DeRozan without having to sacrifice the pick. And it's pretty clear with Mitchell/Duarte gone, and Huerter next, Carter has a significant role on this team moving forward.

Looking at the picks that went after, there's an argument that Dalton Knecht could have been an immediate contributor, but reality is that he's a massive defensive liability and projects as a cheaper Huerter if things go well.

Carter can change the point of attack defense with Keon and Keegan.

Carter could be back by Xmas, or maybe mid January. Giving him 2.5 months to gear up for the playoffs. We will see. In the meantime we can build up Huerters value by the deadline, or if he's traded now we can use JMac and Colby in those minutes.

I've truly fallen in love with the idea of Devin Carter as a player. I didn't see a single analyst who watches college that didn't love him and his ability. Between Carter/Keon I feel really good we will find a long term starting two and a backup. I think of those 2 for us as what Denver had with KCP/Bruce Brown.

[FarBeyondDriven]

love how our fanbase is giving McNair a pass for drafting damaged goods. First of all, he used the pick on an older player seemingly because he wants someone ready to contribute, but he's injured and likely won't play this season thus defeating the purpose. Not to mention he played a position we're deep in. McNair seems to escape a lot of blame for his disastrous 2023 season and 2024 draft. I don't get it.

I am one of Monte's biggest critics. Here's what I'll say about this.

My gripe about the pick initially was partially his position, partially that we didnt use the pick to upgrade. Well, we went and got DeRozan without having to sacrifice the pick. And it's pretty clear with Mitchell/Duarte gone, and Huerter next, Carter has a significant role on this team moving forward.

Looking at the picks that went after, there's an argument that Dalton Knecht could have been an immediate contributor, but reality is that he's a massive defensive liability and projects as a cheaper Huerter if things go well.

Carter can change the point of attack defense with Keon and Keegan.

Carter could be back by Xmas, or maybe mid January. Giving him 2.5 months to gear up for the playoffs. We will see. In the meantime we can build up Huerters value by the deadline, or if he's traded now we can use JMac and Colby in those minutes.

I've truly fallen in love with the idea of Devin Carter as a player. I didn't see a single analyst who watches college that didn't love him and his ability. Between Carter/Keon I feel really good we will find a long term starting two and a backup. I think of those 2 for us as what Denver had with KCP/Bruce Brown.

We already had a long-term starting two (Fox/Monk) and backups (Mitchell/Ellis). It wasn't a need. I would have approached this in a way that would have addressed our needs while also adding a few good young prospects to our stable so our SL team wasn't an embarrassment. After you all see how good this draft really is and all the players we could have had you'll understand why I'm pessimistic. I won't enjoy saying I told you so after the season.

[LightTheBeam]

love how our fanbase is giving McNair a pass for drafting damaged goods. First of all, he used the pick on an older player seemingly because he wants someone ready to contribute, but he's injured and likely won't play this season thus defeating the purpose. Not to mention he played a position we're deep in. McNair seems to escape a lot of blame for his disastrous 2023 season and 2024 draft. I don't get it.

I am one of Monte's biggest critics. Here's what I'll say about this.

My gripe about the pick initially was partially his position, partially that we didnt use the pick to upgrade. Well, we went and got DeRozan without having to sacrifice the pick. And it's pretty clear with Mitchell/Duarte gone, and Huerter next, Carter has a significant role on this team moving forward.

Looking at the picks that went after, there's an argument that Dalton Knecht could have been an immediate contributor, but reality is that he's a massive defensive liability and projects as a cheaper Huerter if things go well.

Carter can change the point of attack defense with Keon and Keegan.

Carter could be back by Xmas, or maybe mid January. Giving him 2.5 months to gear up for the playoffs. We will see. In the meantime we can build up Huerters value by the deadline, or if he's traded now we can use JMac and Colby in those minutes.

I've truly fallen in love with the idea of Devin Carter as a player. I didn't see a single analyst who watches college that didn't love him and his ability. Between Carter/Keon I feel really good we will find a long term starting two and a backup. I think of those 2 for us as what Denver had with KCP/Bruce Brown.

We already had a long-term starting two (Fox/Monk) and backups (Mitchell/Ellis). It wasn't a need. I would have approached this in a way that would have addressed our needs while also adding a few good young prospects to our stable so our SL team wasn't an embarrassment. After you all see how good this draft really is and all the players we could have had you'll understand why I'm pessimistic. I won't enjoy saying I told you so after the season.

Mitchell was trash. I saw 3 years of that guy, he had 3 decent months. Pass on him good riddance.

So our SL team wasn't an embarrassment? Really? Who cares what our summer league team looks like lmao.

Can you share a few names of who were the prospects you wanted?

[BoogieTime]

love how our fanbase is giving McNair a pass for drafting damaged goods. First of all, he used the pick on an older player seemingly because he wants someone ready to contribute, but he's injured and likely won't play this season thus defeating the purpose. Not to mention he played a position we're deep in. McNair seems to escape a lot of blame for his disastrous 2023 season and 2024 draft. I don't get it.

I am one of Monte's biggest critics. Here's what I'll say about this.

My gripe about the pick initially was partially his position, partially that we didnt use the pick to upgrade. Well, we went and got DeRozan without having to sacrifice the pick. And it's pretty clear with Mitchell/Duarte gone, and Huerter next, Carter has a significant role on this team moving forward.

Looking at the picks that went after, there's an argument that Dalton Knecht could have been an immediate contributor, but reality is that he's a massive defensive liability and projects as a cheaper Huerter if things go well.

Carter can change the point of attack defense with Keon and Keegan.

Carter could be back by Xmas, or maybe mid January. Giving him 2.5 months to gear up for the playoffs. We will see. In the meantime we can build up Huerters value by the deadline, or if he's traded now we can use JMac and Colby in those minutes.

I've truly fallen in love with the idea of Devin Carter as a player. I didn't see a single analyst who watches college that didn't love him and his ability. Between Carter/Keon I feel really good we will find a long term starting two and a backup. I think of those 2 for us as what Denver had with KCP/Bruce Brown.

We already had a long-term starting two (Fox/Monk) and backups (Mitchell/Ellis). It wasn't a need. I would have approached this in a way that would have addressed our needs while also adding a few good young prospects to our stable so our SL team wasn't an embarrassment. After you all see how good this draft really is and all the players we could have had you'll understand why I'm pessimistic. I won't enjoy saying I told you so after the season.

It doesn’t need to be a need, just bpa