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Post#201 » by typedrat » Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:16 pm

It's not a conditioning issue, it's a "Keegan Murray is our only consistently playable forward so far this season" issue. Lyles' shot coming back helps, but he's not much of a defender so he's not really doing the same job as Keegan. Get him some damn help in the wing/forward rotation and he'll bounce back.
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Post#202 » by Jkam31 » Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:39 am

Cam Johnson takes us to the next level give Brooklyn two first round picks. Can defend 2-4, elite shooter, good defender and decent contract.

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Added 37 tonight dudes basically what we want Keegan to be

When Derozan is gone he’d step in as a third option as well so you’re betting on now and long term
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Post#203 » by BoogieTime » Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:11 pm

Jkam31 wrote:Cam Johnson takes us to the next level give Brooklyn two first round picks. Can defend 2-4, elite shooter, good defender and decent contract.

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Added 37 tonight dudes basically what we want Keegan to be

When Derozan is gone he’d step in as a third option as well so you’re betting on now and long term


have to make those trades when they are not playing at the top of their game. For value
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Post#204 » by Jkam31 » Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:59 pm

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Jkam31 wrote:Cam Johnson takes us to the next level give Brooklyn two first round picks. Can defend 2-4, elite shooter, good defender and decent contract.

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Added 37 tonight dudes basically what we want Keegan to be

When Derozan is gone he’d step in as a third option as well so you’re betting on now and long term


have to make those trades when they are not playing at the top of their game. For value


It’s too late for that that chance was in June but we wanted to waste time as usual and still wasting time starting Huerter like his value is gonna change.

The only value that probably went down right now is Grant and Kuzma
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#205 » by KF10 » Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:46 pm

First 16 games to start the season:

22-23: 10-6
23-24: 10-6
24-25: 8-8
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Post#206 » by KF10 » Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:14 pm

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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#207 » by KF10 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 4:37 am

Kings are 10-13 after 23 games.

59 games to go.

To match last year’s record (46-36), the Kings need 36-23 to finish the season or ~61% win rate.
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#208 » by codydaze » Fri Dec 6, 2024 5:03 am

If you exclude free throws, we have been outscored (in terms of total points for the season) by only 4 points on the year. Having a negative point differential of only 4 when opponents have made 82(!!) more three pointers than us is actually crazy. Being bottom 5 in both 3P% and Opponent 3P% is a huge, glaring issue that needs to be addressed asap. There needs to be changes in personnel as well as scheme on the floor because losing the three point battle night in and night out makes it impossible to win the modern NBA.
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Post#209 » by Jkam31 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 5:06 am

codydaze wrote:If you exclude free throws, we have been outscored (in terms of total points for the season) by only 4 points on the year. Having a negative point differential of only 4 when opponents have made 82(!!) more three pointers than us is actually crazy. Being bottom 5 in both 3P% and Opponent 3P% is a huge, glaring issue that needs to be addressed asap. There needs to be changes in personnel as well as scheme on the floor because losing the three point battle night in and night out makes it impossible to win the modern NBA.


Newsflash! Nothing is changing it would’ve changed by now 23 games in and the game plan is to leave shooters open **** only worked vs Houston cause they can’t shoot, Memphis was bricking open threes in the first half too
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Post#210 » by KF10 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 6:40 pm

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Post#211 » by FarBeyondDriven » Sat Dec 7, 2024 9:23 am

Jkam31 wrote:Cam Johnson takes us to the next level give Brooklyn two first round picks. Can defend 2-4, elite shooter, good defender and decent contract.

Read on Twitter
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Added 37 tonight dudes basically what we want Keegan to be

When Derozan is gone he’d step in as a third option as well so you’re betting on now and long term


Cam Johnson is just a more refined Keegan. Like Keegan, he's not a true 4 and doesn't help us with shot-blocking. He's an overrated defender too. Our late round picks plus trash isn't going to entice the Nets to trade him when surely other teams will offer them much more. Yes he'd improve us enough to ensure we'd be a play-in but he doesn't take us to the next level. It'd certainly make us more watchable and this season more exciting though.
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#212 » by Jkam31 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 10:56 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:
Jkam31 wrote:Cam Johnson takes us to the next level give Brooklyn two first round picks. Can defend 2-4, elite shooter, good defender and decent contract.

Read on Twitter
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Added 37 tonight dudes basically what we want Keegan to be

When Derozan is gone he’d step in as a third option as well so you’re betting on now and long term


Cam Johnson is just a more refined Keegan. Like Keegan, he's not a true 4 and doesn't help us with shot-blocking. He's an overrated defender too. Our late round picks plus trash isn't going to entice the Nets to trade him when surely other teams will offer them much more. Yes he'd improve us enough to ensure we'd be a play-in but he doesn't take us to the next level. It'd certainly make us more watchable and this season more exciting though.


We don’t need “a true 4” there’s like two three guys that are posting up at that position we need wing defense and shooting. That mythical “4” that blocks shots and doesn’t club our offfense doesn’t exist Chet ain’t walking through that door.

You’re right though we’re not getting Cam without giving up two firsts and you severely underrate him. Having a more refined Keegan would be gold
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Post#213 » by Jkam31 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:26 pm

Also on Cam Johnson he’d be a piece that fits the core for the future not just this year. How often are we gonna be able to get a 6’7 SF that can get you 17-19 ppg with elite shooting and good defense. In two years DD will more than likely be a bench player or moved on and Monk is gonna be the starter at SG. Getting Cam would allo us to have a main core of Fox, Monk, Cam, Keegan, and Sabonis with Carter and jones developing.

I’d easily offer Brooklyn two firsts lyles and Huerter for Cam and not think twice about it
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Post#214 » by OGSactownballer » Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:18 pm

It won’t make a bit of difference as long as Brown is the coach.

Cam will come off the bench and be getting doghoused by Brown every third game. And nothing changes but continuing to run out an offense oriented lineup that doesn’t play any sort of decent D.
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Post#215 » by Jkam31 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:52 pm

OGSactownballer wrote:It won’t make a bit of difference as long as Brown is the coach.

Cam will come off the bench and be getting doghoused by Brown every third game. And nothing changes but continuing to run out an offense oriented lineup that doesn’t play any sort of decent D.


Bro our defense is ranked 13 I believe and we’re good at rim and transition defense if we can get average at three point defense Wes be a top 10 defense.

Cam would come off the bench Monk starting has unlocked the offense no need to disrupt it and brown isn’t putting a 40% shooter with defenij the doghouse
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#216 » by LightTheBeam » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:13 pm

Both the Jones impressed the hell out of me lately. Our defense is different when Keon gets big minutes. If Huerter misses extended time I hope Colby continues to get the minutes. And I hope that Mike gets his damn rotation in order. No more guessing who is playing that night.

Fox - Monk - Demar - Keegan - Sabonis
Keon - Colby - Isaac Jones

Insert Huerter/Lyles when they get back and take Colby's minutes I guess. But this 8 should be playing the majority of all minutes for the time being.
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Post#217 » by BoogieTime » Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:05 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278435/DeAaron-Fox-Loves-Sacramento-Also-Wants-To-Win

This is a conundrum.. one of the reasons we aren't high on winning is because IMO he doesn't impact winning at a high level, or even a semi high level like he did two years ago (working his way back to inefficiency/bad shooting with worse defensive numbers this year and inconsistent)... The roster around him is fairly good on paper though. And he doesn't seem to get it. But, im fine with the lack of extension at this point, and I'm not dictating future picks with him in mind.. If the core isn't good enough now, and partly because he isn't good enough, I'm waiting and seeing. And because I don't think he impacts winning at a high level, if there is solid value on the table..
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#218 » by KF10 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:53 pm

23-24: 17-10
24-25: 13-14

The Kings were 17-10 last season at the 27th game mark. 7 games above .500

The Kings are one game under .500

At what point the Kings decide that they dug themselves a hole that they can’t climb out of?
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Reminds me of the Marvin Bagley situation with his father, blaming the Kings for the reason he wasn't getting it done

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