24-25 Trade Thread

[KF10]

Yeah, it will be interesting to see who will fill the open roster spot.

Also, the Raptors fans were right. Jalen was/is terrible.

[blind prophet]

I get dumping salary and opening a roster spot, but the "part one of something to come" is interesting...

Read on Twitter

We need some depth badly.

[blind prophet]

Good chance they are cooked, but it would be interesting if we got both Crowder & Covington.

[phincsfan]

You guys have a good team and if there's a time to go all in it's this season. Go out and get Lillard at the deadline. Give up a few 1st's for him. Monk and Huerter plus those 1st's. A 3 year window of DeRozan, Lillard, Sabonis and Fox (if you extend him)would be a team who can take the west IMO. OKC is still too young IMO and they're relying on SGA too much.

[codydaze]

You guys have a good team and if there's a time to go all in it's this season. Go out and get Lillard at the deadline. Give up a few 1st's for him. Monk and Huerter plus those 1st's. A 3 year window of DeRozan, Lillard, Sabonis and Fox (if you extend him)would be a team who can take the west IMO. OKC is still too young IMO and they're relying on SGA too much.

Dame isn't a fit on this roster and his contract is certainly not something I'd be looking to trade for especially at the cost of Monk and a few 1sts. If there was anyone I might be interested in from Milwaukee it would be Middleton. I could be talked into Huerter/Lyles and whatever value gap there is for Middleton but that's about it. And even then, he has injury concerns so I personally wouldn't include any 1sts but Milwaukee probably doesn't go for that.

[Jkam31]

You guys have a good team and if there's a time to go all in it's this season. Go out and get Lillard at the deadline. Give up a few 1st's for him. Monk and Huerter plus those 1st's. A 3 year window of DeRozan, Lillard, Sabonis and Fox (if you extend him)would be a team who can take the west IMO. OKC is still too young IMO and they're relying on SGA too much.

Dame isn't a fit on this roster and his contract is certainly not something I'd be looking to trade for especially at the cost of Monk and a few 1sts. If there was anyone I might be interested in from Milwaukee it would be Middleton. I could be talked into Huerter/Lyles and whatever value gap there is for Middleton but that's about it. And even then, he has injury concerns so I personally wouldn't include any 1sts but Milwaukee probably doesn't go for that.

I’ll pass the health issue is too big when we have to give up Lyles the only playable big wing we have off the bench and Middleton salary would be tough to match.

The way Huerter has improved defensively we should try and get a backup big or wing. Guys like Grant Williams and DFS would be huge for us both would be switchable PF/C with Lyle’s and are good defenders. Grant has been shooting 38% from three for a couple years now and plays very well as a small ball center. A bench of Monk, elllis or Carter, Lyles, and Grant would be very good come post season

[OxAndFox]

You guys have a good team and if there's a time to go all in it's this season. Go out and get Lillard at the deadline. Give up a few 1st's for him. Monk and Huerter plus those 1st's. A 3 year window of DeRozan, Lillard, Sabonis and Fox (if you extend him)would be a team who can take the west IMO. OKC is still too young IMO and they're relying on SGA too much.

Dame isn't a fit on this roster and his contract is certainly not something I'd be looking to trade for especially at the cost of Monk and a few 1sts. If there was anyone I might be interested in from Milwaukee it would be Middleton. I could be talked into Huerter/Lyles and whatever value gap there is for Middleton but that's about it. And even then, he has injury concerns so I personally wouldn't include any 1sts but Milwaukee probably doesn't go for that.

I’ll pass the health issue is too big when we have to give up Lyles the only playable big wing we have off the bench and Middleton salary would be tough to match.

The way Huerter has improved defensively we should try and get a backup big or wing. Guys like Grant Williams and DFS would be huge for us both would be switchable PF/C with Lyle’s and are good defenders. Grant has been shooting 38% from three for a couple years now and plays very well as a small ball center. A bench of Monk, elllis or Carter, Lyles, and Grant would be very good come post season

Please dear lord no. Just say no to Grant Williams. To me he will always have the stink of being a chemistry killer, or just someone that lowers the ceiling of your team.
I would rather have Lyles 10/10 and IMO he is a better player than Williams.

[Jkam31]

Dame isn't a fit on this roster and his contract is certainly not something I'd be looking to trade for especially at the cost of Monk and a few 1sts. If there was anyone I might be interested in from Milwaukee it would be Middleton. I could be talked into Huerter/Lyles and whatever value gap there is for Middleton but that's about it. And even then, he has injury concerns so I personally wouldn't include any 1sts but Milwaukee probably doesn't go for that.

I’ll pass the health issue is too big when we have to give up Lyles the only playable big wing we have off the bench and Middleton salary would be tough to match.

The way Huerter has improved defensively we should try and get a backup big or wing. Guys like Grant Williams and DFS would be huge for us both would be switchable PF/C with Lyle’s and are good defenders. Grant has been shooting 38% from three for a couple years now and plays very well as a small ball center. A bench of Monk, elllis or Carter, Lyles, and Grant would be very good come post season

Please dear lord no. Just say no to Grant Williams. To me he will always have the stink of being a chemistry killer, or just someone that lowers the ceiling of your team.
I would rather have Lyles 10/10 and IMO he is a better player than Williams.

Stuff like that made brooks go to Houston for cheap when he could’ve helped us. Grant is a good player we could get him while keeping Lyle’s and have a solid bench front court.

Also I do wonder if the FO is still interested in Kuzma for Huerter, balances our guard to foward ratio and inserts Leon into the line up. Think about it you wouldn’t trade Huerter while his value is low so him being good would be selling high. I would be ok with it if Kuzma comes off the bench for 1-2 years than when DD loses a step we can assert Carter/Kuzma into the starting lineup

[OxAndFox]

You guys have a good team and if there's a time to go all in it's this season. Go out and get Lillard at the deadline. Give up a few 1st's for him. Monk and Huerter plus those 1st's. A 3 year window of DeRozan, Lillard, Sabonis and Fox (if you extend him)would be a team who can take the west IMO. OKC is still too young IMO and they're relying on SGA too much.

I am a believer in this squad and am on record that anything outside of a top 3 finish in the WC is a failure. I'm not against going for an all in move this season, however Lillard isn't a good target unless someone thinks it would be at the expense of Fox. I don't. And the Kings wouldn't put picks in with Fox for Dame. For better or worse the Kings chose Monk and with his relationship to Fox it seems they are tied together. Anyone can say they would trade one of them and it's a business, but I have serious doubts, and let's see if they do it.

The Monk/Huerter trade would need another player as it doesn't get there.

These trades would be an all in, with draft capital being included of course.
Huerter/Lyles for Porzingas. Not happening at all I would assume.
Huerter/Lyles/Carter/Ellis for JJJ/Watanabe/Williams Jnr. Memphis would need to pull the pin on rebuild and better offers could be made.
Huerter/Lyles for Jerami Grant

[Jkam31]

https://pelicandebrief.com/herb-jones-failure-this-area-may-cost-pelicans-shot-at-contention

Pels need shooting if we could do Huerter for jones I’d pull the trigger

[BoogieTime]

https://pelicandebrief.com/herb-jones-failure-this-area-may-cost-pelicans-shot-at-contention

Pels need shooting if we could do Huerter for jones I’d pull the trigger

Well, he's more positionally versatile and proven than Keon with better BBIQ, but its the same type of situation at this point with Herb's early play (though I doubt the Pelicans would be interested this early). Our starting unit is cooking, its one of the best in the league so far, need more bench support

[Jkam31]

Jodi has Cam Johnson playing some amazing basketball he’d look good in our system but the cost for sure went up and we need to replace Lyles more than a SF

[Jkam31]

DFS is gonna cost a first round pick

[typedrat]

Worth it, tbh. We still should get rid of Huerter, even if he's been good so far this season, just because he's the least essential member of our absurd guard surfeit.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I think this move means we may host a play-in game. It's not a good fit as he doesn't compliment Fox, Sabonis and our offense. Our defense will be bottom half of the league. It's alarming how much this is being celebrated by our fanbase. I just gotta assume they don't know ball or they're so desperate they've turned off their brains.

We're not quite bottom half (16-30) we're 15th. And our 3pt defense is 26th. We're currently 12th in the West and out of the play-in. We better not trade a 1st to try and be a one and done. We need that pick for the rebuild.

At what point in this season do you start entertaining Fox trades NOW? I'm just daydreaming about getting a better return for him while he still has a 1.5 years left to help the team that trades for him. And if we go down that road Sabonis can't be far behind followed by DeRozan and Monk asap. I think I'd be so much more intrigued going into next year with Carter starting at PG and seeing who we draft with our top 10 pick and whatever we can get for the vets. A proper rebuild is better than whatever this garbage is.

[codydaze]

I think this move means we may host a play-in game. It's not a good fit as he doesn't compliment Fox, Sabonis and our offense. Our defense will be bottom half of the league. It's alarming how much this is being celebrated by our fanbase. I just gotta assume they don't know ball or they're so desperate they've turned off their brains.

We're not quite bottom half (16-30) we're 15th. And our 3pt defense is 26th. We're currently 12th in the West and out of the play-in. We better not trade a 1st to try and be a one and done. We need that pick for the rebuild.

At what point in this season do you start entertaining Fox trades NOW? I'm just daydreaming about getting a better return for him while he still has a 1.5 years left to help the team that trades for him. And if we go down that road Sabonis can't be far behind followed by DeRozan and Monk asap. I think I'd be so much more intrigued going into next year with Carter starting at PG and seeing who we draft with our top 10 pick and whatever we can get for the vets. A proper rebuild is better than whatever this garbage is.

I don't think the problem is really the Derozan pick up, I think we have a bigger coaching problem and an awful bench that's been the reason for our underperformance. In terms of lineups that have played at least 50 minutes on the floor, we have 2 lineups ranked top 15 in DRTG among 10 total teams with lineups that qualify for the same (both include Derozan). The starting 4 (Fox, Keegan, Derozan, Sabonis) + Huerter have a 114.9 ORTG/107.0 DRTG (7.9 NET) while the starting 4 + Ellis have a 140.9 ORTG/95.7 DRTG (45.2 NET) yet we're continuing to play Huerter heavier minutes and even close with him over Ellis. It just doesn't make sense and the numbers are screaming that this is an issue.

Keon is leading the team in +/- Per 100 when on court at +8.5 (Huerter is -7.6) and his On-Off +/- Per 100 is at +10.9 (Huerter is at -20.3). All of our other bench contributors are just not playing well, Lyles has been bad, McLaughlin for some reason doesn't get the minutes I think he should be getting (why is Colby playing?) and Monk being hurt is killing us.

We really need to make some moves to fix our bench, Keegan is being run ragged as the only wing defender with size and our front court depth has been terrible. Media also pressured the front office into extending Mike Brown but it's looking that might come back to bite us too, the 3P defense in particular is largely just terrible scheme.

[Jkam31]

I think this move means we may host a play-in game. It's not a good fit as he doesn't compliment Fox, Sabonis and our offense. Our defense will be bottom half of the league. It's alarming how much this is being celebrated by our fanbase. I just gotta assume they don't know ball or they're so desperate they've turned off their brains.

We're not quite bottom half (16-30) we're 15th. And our 3pt defense is 26th. We're currently 12th in the West and out of the play-in. We better not trade a 1st to try and be a one and done. We need that pick for the rebuild.

At what point in this season do you start entertaining Fox trades NOW? I'm just daydreaming about getting a better return for him while he still has a 1.5 years left to help the team that trades for him. And if we go down that road Sabonis can't be far behind followed by DeRozan and Monk asap. I think I'd be so much more intrigued going into next year with Carter starting at PG and seeing who we draft with our top 10 pick and whatever we can get for the vets. A proper rebuild is better than whatever this garbage is.

Can’t even trade the pick this year unless we’re in protecting it to Atlanta preferably for Hunter

[OxAndFox]

I think this move means we may host a play-in game. It's not a good fit as he doesn't compliment Fox, Sabonis and our offense. Our defense will be bottom half of the league. It's alarming how much this is being celebrated by our fanbase. I just gotta assume they don't know ball or they're so desperate they've turned off their brains.

We're not quite bottom half (16-30) we're 15th. And our 3pt defense is 26th. We're currently 12th in the West and out of the play-in. We better not trade a 1st to try and be a one and done. We need that pick for the rebuild.

At what point in this season do you start entertaining Fox trades NOW? I'm just daydreaming about getting a better return for him while he still has a 1.5 years left to help the team that trades for him. And if we go down that road Sabonis can't be far behind followed by DeRozan and Monk asap. I think I'd be so much more intrigued going into next year with Carter starting at PG and seeing who we draft with our top 10 pick and whatever we can get for the vets. A proper rebuild is better than whatever this garbage is.

I don't think the problem is really the Derozan pick up, I think we have a bigger coaching problem and an awful bench that's been the reason for our underperformance. In terms of lineups that have played at least 50 minutes on the floor, we have 2 lineups ranked top 15 in DRTG among 10 total teams with lineups that qualify for the same (both include Derozan). The starting 4 (Fox, Keegan, Derozan, Sabonis) + Huerter have a 114.9 ORTG/107.0 DRTG (7.9 NET) while the starting 4 + Ellis have a 140.9 ORTG/95.7 DRTG (45.2 NET) yet we're continuing to play Huerter heavier minutes and even close with him over Ellis. It just doesn't make sense and the numbers are screaming that this is an issue.

Keon is leading the team in +/- Per 100 when on court at +8.5 (Huerter is -7.6) and his On-Off +/- Per 100 is at +10.9 (Huerter is at -20.3). All of our other bench contributors are just not playing well, Lyles has been bad, McLaughlin for some reason doesn't get the minutes I think he should be getting (why is Colby playing?) and Monk being hurt is killing us.

We really need to make some moves to fix our bench, Keegan is being run ragged as the only wing defender with size and our front court depth has been terrible. Media also pressured the front office into extending Mike Brown but it's looking that might come back to bite us too, the 3P defense in particular is largely just terrible scheme.

I haven't been watching anywhere near as much as usual, but the bolded is plain as day there for all to see. The coaching in this franchise is abysmal.

I fully expect Mike Brown to be fired by late February if the Kings aren't in the top 6. Triano can take over as interim and do a much better job IMO. Then put together a full scale external review of the entire basketball staff with a head coach search following. It won't happen though because in the NBA everyone is just trying like hell to cover their own butt and throw the next person under the bus.

[BoogieTime]

We're not quite bottom half (16-30) we're 15th. And our 3pt defense is 26th. We're currently 12th in the West and out of the play-in. We better not trade a 1st to try and be a one and done. We need that pick for the rebuild.

At what point in this season do you start entertaining Fox trades NOW? I'm just daydreaming about getting a better return for him while he still has a 1.5 years left to help the team that trades for him. And if we go down that road Sabonis can't be far behind followed by DeRozan and Monk asap. I think I'd be so much more intrigued going into next year with Carter starting at PG and seeing who we draft with our top 10 pick and whatever we can get for the vets. A proper rebuild is better than whatever this garbage is.

I don't think the problem is really the Derozan pick up, I think we have a bigger coaching problem and an awful bench that's been the reason for our underperformance. In terms of lineups that have played at least 50 minutes on the floor, we have 2 lineups ranked top 15 in DRTG among 10 total teams with lineups that qualify for the same (both include Derozan). The starting 4 (Fox, Keegan, Derozan, Sabonis) + Huerter have a 114.9 ORTG/107.0 DRTG (7.9 NET) while the starting 4 + Ellis have a 140.9 ORTG/95.7 DRTG (45.2 NET) yet we're continuing to play Huerter heavier minutes and even close with him over Ellis. It just doesn't make sense and the numbers are screaming that this is an issue.

Keon is leading the team in +/- Per 100 when on court at +8.5 (Huerter is -7.6) and his On-Off +/- Per 100 is at +10.9 (Huerter is at -20.3). All of our other bench contributors are just not playing well, Lyles has been bad, McLaughlin for some reason doesn't get the minutes I think he should be getting (why is Colby playing?) and Monk being hurt is killing us.

We really need to make some moves to fix our bench, Keegan is being run ragged as the only wing defender with size and our front court depth has been terrible. Media also pressured the front office into extending Mike Brown but it's looking that might come back to bite us too, the 3P defense in particular is largely just terrible scheme.

I haven't been watching anywhere near as much as usual, but the bolded is plain as day there for all to see. The coaching in this franchise is abysmal.

I fully expect Mike Brown to be fired by late February if the Kings aren't in the top 6. Triano can take over as interim and do a much better job IMO. Then put together a full scale external review of the entire basketball staff with a head coach search following. It won't happen though because in the NBA everyone is just trying like hell to cover their own butt and throw the next person under the bus.

As your doing Brown to some degree, this seems part of your "positivity" thing to not have anything to say about the players. Whats your opinion of Keegan/Lyles/Huerter's season to start off? Two can't make wide open shots, though they are paid for that, and one is a dead man walking

[Jkam31]

I don't think the problem is really the Derozan pick up, I think we have a bigger coaching problem and an awful bench that's been the reason for our underperformance. In terms of lineups that have played at least 50 minutes on the floor, we have 2 lineups ranked top 15 in DRTG among 10 total teams with lineups that qualify for the same (both include Derozan). The starting 4 (Fox, Keegan, Derozan, Sabonis) + Huerter have a 114.9 ORTG/107.0 DRTG (7.9 NET) while the starting 4 + Ellis have a 140.9 ORTG/95.7 DRTG (45.2 NET) yet we're continuing to play Huerter heavier minutes and even close with him over Ellis. It just doesn't make sense and the numbers are screaming that this is an issue.

Keon is leading the team in +/- Per 100 when on court at +8.5 (Huerter is -7.6) and his On-Off +/- Per 100 is at +10.9 (Huerter is at -20.3). All of our other bench contributors are just not playing well, Lyles has been bad, McLaughlin for some reason doesn't get the minutes I think he should be getting (why is Colby playing?) and Monk being hurt is killing us.

We really need to make some moves to fix our bench, Keegan is being run ragged as the only wing defender with size and our front court depth has been terrible. Media also pressured the front office into extending Mike Brown but it's looking that might come back to bite us too, the 3P defense in particular is largely just terrible scheme.

I haven't been watching anywhere near as much as usual, but the bolded is plain as day there for all to see. The coaching in this franchise is abysmal.

I fully expect Mike Brown to be fired by late February if the Kings aren't in the top 6. Triano can take over as interim and do a much better job IMO. Then put together a full scale external review of the entire basketball staff with a head coach search following. It won't happen though because in the NBA everyone is just trying like hell to cover their own butt and throw the next person under the bus.

As your doing Brown to some degree, this seems part of your "positivity" thing to not have anything to say about the players. Whats your opinion of Keegan/Lyles/Huerter's season to start off? Two can't make wide open shots, though they are paid for that, and one is a dead man walking

Teams are leaving Keegan alone at the three point line now