Draft Thread - Kings move up to #4

[Adg1987]

Ivey will start at 2 next to Fox. Mitchell will come off the bench. Donte DiVincenzo can be the 4th guy off the bench. If Ivey is good as people think, this is the only option. I like Keegan Murray as well if they trade down

[City of Trees]

Chris Haynes reporting the Kings arranged for Keegan Murray to have dinner with De’Aaron Fox and Domantas Sabonis.

Things are beginning to heat up.

[Adg1987]

Chris Haynes reporting the Kings arranged for Keegan Murray to have dinner with De’Aaron Fox and Domantas Sabonis.

Things are beginning to heat up.

I think Murray seems like a decent wing. We do need someone that can produce. He might be a good fit. I just don't know if he is 3 or a 4. Can we guard the perimeter?

[OGSactownballer]

If Murray is the pick they are absolutely trading down. No matter what anyone sees for potential future in a draft, ultimately almost every team will go the safe route and take the guy that is slotted there in that top five to seven spots. Presti is really the only one with the chits and the sack to go out of the box and that’s why if anything changes in that top three it’s because of OKC.

Murray is projected lower and therefore a value trade down that gets a starter that fits as well as him seems to me to be the direction now. Especially if even half of the rumors about teams that want to move up for Ivey or one of the bigs are true.

[BoogieTime]

Chris Haynes reporting the Kings arranged for Keegan Murray to have dinner with De’Aaron Fox and Domantas Sabonis.

Things are beginning to heat up.

Well if they are drafting at least its a player most of us support.

I dont think they could drop past 5 and feel comfortable taking him

And he wants to be here and Ivey doesn't as well

[sackings916]

If Murray is the pick they are absolutely trading down. No matter what anyone sees for potential future in a draft, ultimately almost every team will go the safe route and take the guy that is slotted there in that top five to seven spots. Presti is really the only one with the chits and the sack to go out of the box and that’s why if anything changes in that top three it’s because of OKC.

Murray is projected lower and therefore a value trade down that gets a starter that fits as well as him seems to me to be the direction now. Especially if even half of the rumors about teams that want to move up for Ivey or one of the bigs are true.

We see it every year we think we have guys pegged in the range they are supposed to go but the draft never actually goes down like that. Especially in todays league where big/combo forwards are so valuable it wouldn’t be shocking to see Murray go higher than what he is mocked.

[City of Trees]

We see it every year we think we have guys pegged in the range they are supposed to go but the draft never actually goes down like that.

Did you see Zach Harper's mock draft he put out today? He has Ivey dropping to 9. Draft week is special.

[sackings916]

We see it every year we think we have guys pegged in the range they are supposed to go but the draft never actually goes down like that.

Did you see Zach Harper's mock draft he put out today? He has Ivey dropping to 9. Draft week is special.

Haven’t seen it have a link by any chance?

[City of Trees]

Haven’t seen it have a link by any chance?

https://theathletic.com/3360765/2022/06/20/2022-nba-mock-draft-zach-harper?source=user-shared-article

4. Sacramento Kings – Keegan Murray | 6-8 Forward | Iowa | 21 years old
Biggest need: Wing, forwards and a defensive big man.

This is where the draft gets very tricky. I think Jaden Ivey is one of the best options in this draft, so him going here at No. 4 seems logical. Even with De’Aaron Fox on the roster, it could work. This front office has taken Tyrese Haliburton and Davion Mitchell in the past two lottery appearances. Considering they moved on from Haliburton to acquire Domantas Sabonis, grabbing Ivey here doesn’t seem out of the question. But it feels like Keegan Murray will be the guy. The Kings are looking to move this pick if possible, as they feel keen on ending the shame of the longest playoff drought in league history. Team owner Vivek Ranadivé is reportedly a fan of Murray with this pick. Owner usually wins out on these things, which is how they ended up with Nik Stauskas back in 2014.

They do need a player like Murray if they keep the pick. Sure, he’s about to turn 22 years old, but the Kings need as many adults in the room and on the court as possible. He exploded as an outside shooter this season, and his free-throw shooting is good enough to believe he can be league average or better from downtown. Murray can punish guys on the block, he can pop on pick action, and he can finish in the lane even though he’s not an amazing athlete. Most importantly for the Kings? He can do all that while also being a valuable defender. If a team doesn’t trade up to here to get Ivey, Murray feels like the guy to believe in here.

Do you expect a trade here? It sounds like the Kings are heavily shopping and receiving calls about this pick, but our Shams Charania reports they are becoming increasingly comfortable with drafting at No. 4. We could see San Antonio move up to grab Murray. We could see the Knicks try to get all the way up here to grab Ivey. But there will be a steep price to do so.

And here is Ivey falling...

9. San Antonio Spurs – Jaden Ivey | 6-4 PG/SG | Purdue | 20 years old

Biggest need: A star at any position.

There’s always someone who falls further than we think they should, and in this scenario, it’s Ivey all the way down to ninth and the San Antonio Spurs. Yes, they already have Dejounte Murray, but their All-Star guard is versatile enough to play next to any type of backcourt mate. So Ivey and Murray could potentially grab a lot of attention together in San Antonio. It’s probably more likely a team trades up to grab Ivey rather than him falling all this way, but I love the idea of him harnessing his powers and abilities on the Spurs like he’s a rogue X-Men character looking to save the world … or in this case, the backend of Gregg Popovich’s coaching career.

His outside shooting is still suspect. Big improvement from his freshman season at Purdue, but it’s not enough attempts to feel great about it. The form isn’t great, but it’s workable. He’s going to have to learn to shoot if he’s going to take advantage of his athleticism and attacking abilities off the dribble. His footwork is pretty excellent, and he’s a nightmare to stay in front of when he has a full head of steam — especially in transition. I don’t think you want him as the full-time lead guard, but that’s why he’d work perfect next to Murray. Defensively, the potential is there. He just needs to commit to it.

Do you expect a trade here? The Spurs are believed to covet Murray from Iowa, but he’s not falling this far. They could use the ninth pick and any of their other first-rounders to try to move up to where Sacramento is to make sure Murray is added to their roster.

[BoogieTime]

Its a damn shame about Brogdon's injury history, as he is skilled for a drop back if the team liked someone at 6. Some of those injuries like the achilles and back could reoccur, but he has a ton of knick knack injuries over ~5 years where you get the feel he's either weak or doesn't like basketball. No way to trust that as he gets past 30.

Duarte at 25 putting up bad metrics.

Turner is the skilled player there, if the fit isn't there for the FO maybe 3 teamer. He is more skilled than Jerami Grant though

I dont know how Grant fits with Fox and Sabonis with his decrepit efficiency. He's weak rebounding, and I'm not sure his defensive chops are enough to cover Sabonis backside at the 4

This could involve multiple teams these drop back scenarios, if the team still wanted to draft in the tier

[City of Trees]

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Brogdon, Duarte, 6 for 4/ fillers

That's a really good deal you get two contributors while keeping a high pick. I don't know if Indy goes for that.

[kalenclayton]

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Brogdon, Duarte, 6 for 4/ fillers

That's a really good deal you get two contributors while keeping a high pick. I don't know if Indy goes for that.

That seems like one hell of a haul for 4, but is that necessary for the Pacers to pay that steep of a price?
I still prefer keeping 4 and drafting Ivey, although this deal would make me go back and forth due to the sheer value.

[codydaze]

I don't know that I'd do the deal with Indy only because I really want Keegan Murray and I think Detroit takes him at 5 so we would be left taking maybe Dyson Daniels, which wouldn't be the worst thing, or reaching for someone like Eason at 6.

[Adg1987]

We are in a position to get whoever we want in this draft after the top 3 bigs. I think we will be good with Ivey or Murray. Hoping we at least trade down if we do not want Ivey though. I believe he has the most star potential

[BoogieTime]

Besides Turner, Indiana's players dont work in a non three way deal (and Turner might not work on fit)

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That seems more like it. Though suggests the team isnt high on Daniels

[LightTheBeam]

Idk

Ivey + Holmes + Holiday + Harkless

or

Daniels + Duarte + Brogdan

I think I'm going with that bottom trio. Are we sure that Detroit is 1000% taking Murray? I've seen a lot of mocks having them take Mathurin/Sharpe. I'm not sure they are going to get the value they want for Grant for the same reason I don't think we will get the value for Barnes, we waited too long. Cade - Mathurin - Bey - Grant - Stewart is pretty solid.

[City of Trees]

Besides Turner, Indiana's players dont work in a non three way deal (and Turner might not work on fit)

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That seems more like it. Though suggests the team isnt high on Daniels

Monte channeling his mentor Daryl Morey

[BoogieTime]

personally I could be here for it if we came out with John collins and Daniels, in a three team

[codydaze]

Idk

Ivey + Holmes + Holiday + Harkless

or

Daniels + Duarte + Brogdan

I think I'm going with that bottom trio. Are we sure that Detroit is 1000% taking Murray? I've seen a lot of mocks having them take Mathurin/Sharpe. I'm not sure they are going to get the value they want for Grant for the same reason I don't think we will get the value for Barnes, we waited too long. Cade - Mathurin - Bey - Grant - Stewart is pretty solid.

Yeah I think Detroit takes either Ivey or Keegan depending on what we do. I'm really not high on Ivey or Mathurin and while I do think Daniels could work out for us, I'd really prefer Keegan.

[Roddy B for 3]

Idk

Ivey + Holmes + Holiday + Harkless

or

Daniels + Duarte + Brogdan

I think I'm going with that bottom trio. Are we sure that Detroit is 1000% taking Murray? I've seen a lot of mocks having them take Mathurin/Sharpe. I'm not sure they are going to get the value they want for Grant for the same reason I don't think we will get the value for Barnes, we waited too long. Cade - Mathurin - Bey - Grant - Stewart is pretty solid.

If you took the Indy trade you could probably then trade down to #12 for a haul of draft picks and Dort.

Maybe ending up with:
Sabonis/FA
Barnes/Holiday
Dort/Duarte
Brogdon/Mitchell
Fox/Mitchell

+ #12, Houston '24 (top 5 protected), Detroit '23 (lottery protected, then two 2nds)

I feel like that team is much better than the current Kings and obviously has more future assets. So, more likely to reach the playoffs and still stuff to get better after that.