Cousins demanded a trade(Other fans: Stop proposing trades)

[pillwenney]

Well from my understanding, the management backed his statement--like, as in, gave him the go ahead to post it. There's backing a guy for PR reasons, and then there's giving him the go-ahead to post a statement like that.

Word gets around. You don't let Westphal do what he wants to do, to discipline the players that he has to deal with on a daily basis and you're in nearly as bad a situation as if you publicly don't back him.

Plus, as I've heard, Petrie said at some point tonight that this was done to send a message to Cousins.

It's not just disciplining though. It's the whole public statement and clarifying that it was indeed a trade request. He very easily could have suspended him for "conduct detrimental to the team." I would have understood the franchise backing that.

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-120101/daily-dime




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Meh. Weak evidence. Beasley was in a weird situation, Odom's stuff is kinda overblown and he doesn't give a real reason why it's like that. He just listed a couple stray examples.

Edit: The father figure thing is probably accurate though. It makes sense. My main question with that is why it doesn't happen with more guys. It's not like a lot of NBA players come from strong families.

[sacking123]

I really hope this thing doesn't keep escalating like it has already. Let's just hope the GP can have a long discussion with DMC and talk him around. Although why wouldn't it be GP talking to PW to talk him around, because wasn't it PW that stopped DMC from being with the team, I mean for all we know DMC wanted to play against the Hornets.
And lol at JA Adande, we wont be getting Dwight as a rental.

[heat in italy]

Hey guys, Heat fan here.

I dont think that we have something that it is a fair value for Cousins, although he would really fix our center hole.

My question is what kind of package are you guys hoping for ? Experience, salary relieve, drafts, young talent etc... and , which position do you guys need to fill ?

Thanks , good luck.

[pillwenney]

None because we're not looking to trade him.

Seriously other teams' fans. Please stop. This isn't the place for offers.

[Amish Mafioso]

Al Jefferson + Bell/Cj Miles for Cousins and filler

[sacking123]

And it's not as if we actually have any say in a trade.

[Strange Clouds]

^ but you generally have an ideal of what your teams direction is.

[sacking123]

Then why not ask that? Instead people are posting trades with a variety of players, and I won't say too much about the quality, so that means they either 1) "know" what direction the kings are going in or 2) simply don't care and want to make one sided trade offers.

[Ledeni]

Guys would you be interested in some deal with Wolfs, there are alot of great players there and you would get fair value for DMC ?

[pillwenney]

Seriously you guys, are you kidding me? It's right on this page.

None because we're not looking to trade him.

Seriously other teams' fans. Please stop. This isn't the place for offers.

[SacKingZZZ]

Here's the main question in all of this. If Demarcus requested a trade, does he want away from the franchise or his coach? Those are two unrelated things IMO and in a matter of months may have absolutely no connection to eachother whatsoever. That is a consideration Petrie will have to make if he gets some interesting trade offers.

[pillwenney]

One of the points that Adande made that was probably right is that it doesn't really matter. This is going to happen again and again pretty much regardless of the coach.

[boogie-reke]

I don't know if I agree.

I think if a proper coach with a proper system that actually knows what he's doing and can gain the respect of Demarcus as a player comes by - I honestly think the problems will become more and more minor.

I again think, that this is just everything to do with Paul and the way he handles himself and the team, both on and off the court.

Basically if you read/hear what our players say regarding this, it can be translated imo as : "he just needs to learn that even if the coach sucks and has no clue what he's doing, and even if the system is a mess with an absolute clown at helm controling it and we're all being led like blind sheep to slaughter practically making no progress at all as a team or as individuals - he needs to be quiet about it and not tell the truth as it is"

Which is right on one hand as he is extremely immature in how he express himself and needs to be more of a pro - but wrong on the other, as it seems people NEED him to do this stuff so they can wake the hell up and send this poor excuse of a coach back to the retirement center, cause it seems like they're content with being led towards a oblivion which is ridiculous.

It's like everyone is trying thier best to avoid the huge Elephant in the room and only Demarcus refuses not to.

Again it's not that I fully support him in all the stuff he does cause i'm surely not and he is extremely immature and cannot hold himself back and it has to change to atleast a decent enough level - but on the macro of things and where he's coming from with his complaints, I fully agree and support what he is saying, and thinks he should speak his mind cause it seems thats the only way to force people to discuss and talk about it.

[94_MagicFan]

How about Daniel Orton

[7-Day Dray]

Paul Westphal's interview on the trade demand:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPq-175gYeY&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube]

[Nanogeek]

Demarcus Cousins is a problem child. He needs to be on a team with strong veterans to keep his ass in line. No coach aside from a legendary coach like Phil Jackson or Pat Riley or Lenny Wilkens will be able to get him to tow the line. He needs to go somewhere where the veterans will check his ass.

[Nanogeek]

If you deal DMC then you will piss off a huge ammount of fans the KINGS need to sell tickets to keep the KINGS in SAC . Message to PW . DMC sells tickets you do not !
PW you are the weakest link ! "GOODBYE"

Why is that? DMC hasn't done anything useful yet. He shot 43% last year as a 6'11" 270lb frontcourt player. He should be shooting 55%+. Why is that? Because he was settling for too many jump shots. 61% of his shots were jump shots which is crazy. He shot 54% from close range where most of his shots should be. But he needs to learn the game and learn how to get position and be patient. But hes too much of a petulant child for that.

He's shooting 32% this year albeit with a small sample size. He hasn't learned how to play without fouling. He's racked up 16 fouls in 83 minutes of play. Also, when Cousins was on the court the Kings were worse off according to 82games.com.

Cousins isn't a leader and isn't even a good player. He's got the skills no doubt but he doesnt have the mindset of a professional or even an adult. Until he gets that hes not someone the Kings or any other team can build around. As I said, the best thing for Cousins is to go to a team with strong veterans who can check him. The Celtics, the Heat, the Spurs, the Mavericks, they can help him.

[dozencousins]

If you deal DMC then you will piss off a huge ammount of fans the KINGS need to sell tickets to keep the KINGS in SAC . Message to PW . DMC sells tickets you do not !
PW you are the weakest link ! "GOODBYE"

Why is that? DMC hasn't done anything useful yet. He shot 43% last year as a 6'11" 270lb frontcourt player. He should be shooting 55%+. Why is that? Because he was settling for too many jump shots. 61% of his shots were jump shots which is crazy. He shot 54% from close range where most of his shots should be. But he needs to learn the game and learn how to get position and be patient. But hes too much of a petulant child for that.

He's shooting 32% this year albeit with a small sample size. He hasn't learned how to play without fouling. He's racked up 16 fouls in 83 minutes of play. Also, when Cousins was on the court the Kings were worse off according to 82games.com.

Cousins isn't a leader and isn't even a good player. He's got the skills no doubt but he doesnt have the mindset of a professional or even an adult. Until he gets that hes not someone the Kings or any other team can build around. As I said, the best thing for Cousins is to go to a team with strong veterans who can check him. The Celtics, the Heat, the Spurs, the Mavericks, they can help him.

ARE YOU SERIOUS ?

DMC is one of the most popular players on the Kings in terms of fan base etc. along with Tyreke , Jimmer & M.Thorton I would have to say . Yes DMC sells tickets for many he is their favorite player . DMC has 1 very key element the Kings has sorely lacked for alot of years and that is toughness and a solid interier presence we hadnt really had that since C-WEBB & VLADE .

DMC has star power . Their are very few players his size with his type of NBA skillset that come into the leauge . It is far more rarer to have a young bigman come into the leauge with his talent and show how good he actually is than the smaller positional players .

Alot of people who critisize DMC are the same ones that would love to have him on their team and flip the script from bashing him to all of a sudden defending him .Their are 29 other teams in the NBA that would love to have him .

[PaKwAn]

Ship him out and fire PW!

[Beas4pres]

If you deal DMC then you will piss off a huge ammount of fans the KINGS need to sell tickets to keep the KINGS in SAC . Message to PW . DMC sells tickets you do not !
PW you are the weakest link ! "GOODBYE"

Why is that? DMC hasn't done anything useful yet. He shot 43% last year as a 6'11" 270lb frontcourt player. He should be shooting 55%+. Why is that? Because he was settling for too many jump shots. 61% of his shots were jump shots which is crazy. He shot 54% from close range where most of his shots should be. But he needs to learn the game and learn how to get position and be patient. But hes too much of a petulant child for that.

He's shooting 32% this year albeit with a small sample size. He hasn't learned how to play without fouling. He's racked up 16 fouls in 83 minutes of play. Also, when Cousins was on the court the Kings were worse off according to 82games.com.

Cousins isn't a leader and isn't even a good player. He's got the skills no doubt but he doesnt have the mindset of a professional or even an adult. Until he gets that hes not someone the Kings or any other team can build around. As I said, the best thing for Cousins is to go to a team with strong veterans who can check him. The Celtics, the Heat, the Spurs, the Mavericks, they can help him.

ARE YOU SERIOUS ?

DMC is one of the most popular players on the Kings in terms of fan base etc. along with Tyreke , Jimmer & M.Thorton I would have to say . Yes DMC sells tickets for many he is their favorite player . DMC has 1 very key element the Kings has sorely lacked for alot of years and that is toughness and a solid interier presence we hadnt really had that since C-WEBB & VLADE .

DMC has star power . Their are very few players his size with his type of NBA skillset that come into the leauge . It is far more rarer to have a young bigman come into the leauge with his talent and show how good he actually is than the smaller positional players .

Alot of people who critisize DMC are the same ones that would love to have him on their team and flip the script from bashing him to all of a sudden defending him .Their are 29 other teams in the NBA that would love to have him .

u just named the whole team as a fan favorite.

Jimmer already has more fans than cousins and so does evans

he is 3rd on the totem pole

you are the weakest link *goodbye*