Trade Idea Thread 15-16

[Jkam31]

New Update :

In regards to R.Gay possibly being traded . I am told though the Kings organization loves R.Gay as a player , as a person etc. they are seeing him as more expendable . He holds the greatest value of any player of whom we are considering trading so though we are still talking deals with other teams such as N.O. for Anderson we are now leaning towards a different direction .

We are now leaning towards acquiring a 1st round pick + a cheaper contract expiring or a 1 more year on their deal still player must still be solid & not a scrub .

The Bulls are an option such as Gibson & our # 1 pick we owe them for Gay in a deal ( not saying that would be an exact deal .
I know this type of trade is & has been talked about with the Bulls .

Also Gay to Boston for a # 1 pick + amir johnson whom has a team option for next season or D.Lee expiring + E.Turner + a #1 pick in a deal for Gay & Marco

1 more : Gay to the Clippers in a deal for Stephenson + a #1 pick ( Stephenson has a team option next season )

Other teams interested in Gay : PELICANS , HEAT , ROCKETS, GRIZZ , WIZARDS , BUCKS , SUNS , LAKERS , MAGIC , DENVER & 76ERS
All these teams are aside from ones mentioned above BULLS , CELTICS & CLIPPERS

GAY is one of the few hottest players on the trading block out their . Kings will wait until he is fully healed to trade him if they do so . Had he not had the heel issue he would likely have been dealt already .

If we trade Gay for lance **** stephenson than we should trade Cousins cause we don't deserve him. I also don't get the Boston trades and Gibson trade. DMC/WCS/KJ is set don't change it good deals can be had with those other teams though:


Rockets: Ariza/1st. Gives us an elite 3D guy
Grizz: Lee/Barnes for Gay gives us defenders and shooters.


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[City of Trees]

Hmmm what if instead if trading Rudy Gay, Karl just brings him off the bench? Late night thought.

Also an idea I've seen gaining traction around the water cooler, do the Kings really stand any chance of trading Rudy for Kevin Love? Seems a bit homerish to me but hey, people sure are talking about it.

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[bleeds_purple]

Hmmm what if instead if trading Rudy Gay, Karl just brings him off the bench? Late night thought.

Also an idea I've seen gaining traction around the water cooler, do the Kings really stand any chance of trading Rudy for Kevin Love? Seems a bit homerish to me but hey, people sure are talking about it.

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Yea. I don't like the recent crop of prospective trades posted by dozens. I hope we don't dump Gay for bench players and a non-lottery pick. That being said if we can get a MIrotic or a Batum for him I think we have to jump all over it. My dream trade scenario right now would be Gay and Koufos for Mirotic, Gibson, and Snell.

I agree with the thought behind your idea of bringing him off the bench. However, I think the most effective way to accomplish that is pulling him at the 6 minute mark of the 1st/3rd so that he can start the 2nd/4th with the bench unit. That way he still gets the respect of being a starter while filling the role we need of 1st option with the bench unit.

One thing I hope we don't see is WCS losing minutes to Gay at the 4 and us returning to playing small ball. We should be staying big the whole time. I'd rather see us go the other way and have Rudy eat into Marco's minutes at the SG spot. Malone played Rudy at the 2 sometimes and it worked back then.

[blind prophet]

Anyone hear more about Butler?

I'm assuming at this point its not looking movable unless he is involved in a more complex trade.

Caron Butler?

Haha, I totally forgot that we have him on the roster! I don't think he's worth anything other than filler or a team that's looking for a vet presence..

Oh yeah I don't think we can get much, may even have to pay to get rid of the contract, but we were on record as trying to move him, not much of a peep for about a month now though.

[Pelifan23]

Pelicans have a deal on the table that they like but don't love for Anderson, they are waiting to see if something they love comes along but if it does not, then they will take the deal that will bring back two guys for Anderson. I've heard they have talked to Sacramento but moving Anderson for Gay is not their preferred deal.

What's the deal on the table? Details?


Edit: N.O. board isn't very active? Just ventured over, no trade thread?
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I really don't want to share too much out of respect for the man who shared his sources, but I will say this, it's another Western Conference team who would be sending a young versatile forward and a veteran who has lots of experience but isn't THAT old. People in the Pelicans organization are familiar with both.

Has to be with the Warriors ? Is the team a tittle contender?

[nolafan33]

I would say no

[Pelifan23]

I would say no

I would say houston then but I don't know the players the pels organization would be familiar with? My best guess is jones and brewer for anderson

[Kings2013]

Anyone hear more about Butler?

I'm assuming at this point its not looking movable unless he is involved in a more complex trade.

Caron Butler?

Haha, I totally forgot that we have him on the roster! I don't think he's worth anything other than filler or a team that's looking for a vet presence..

Oh yeah I don't think we can get much, may even have to pay to get rid of the contract, but we were on record as trying to move him, not much of a peep for about a month now though.

I think it's just a case of Caron thinking he was better than he is, and thinking he should still be serving an on court role. With the lack of interest im guessing he sees reality that he is indeed a corpse "locker room father", and that might be it

[WarriorsLakers]

watched an awesome kings/hornets game. sorry you guys lost but I think you guys need another shot creator from 2/3 position.

[PaKwAn]

eric gordon(when healthy) would have been nice to fill that role,but not at the expense of gay though... we need to get rid of marco though,karl loves using him and yet brings nothing to the table.. i don't think the kings have any meaningful assets they are willing to trade, kosta marco and dc won't get us much..

[blind prophet]

watched an awesome kings/hornets game. sorry you guys lost but I think you guys need another shot creator from 2/3 position.

Marco seems to have to be set to score reliably, and Collison playing at the SG hasn't been cutting it. If we could grab the right player maybe.

I'd be open to adding the salary of McLemore and either Koufos or Marco and try to get a larger contract if possible at SG.

[WarriorsLakers]

just checked ur salary and now i see why u guys want to trade r gay. but koufus +Ben Mc should be traded to get something 1st

[PaKwAn]

Avery Bradley would do wonders for this team...I would love to have him in sac!

[Celts17Pride]

Avery Bradley would do wonders for this team...I would love to have him in sac!

Done! Just give us Cousins.

[dozencousins]

Not much brewing right now alot of teams calling about Cousins but Kings won't talk trade him so he is a keeper 99.9% sure on that . The poster whom said we don't deserve him is crazy about that comment IMO .

As for some posters not liking some of the possible trades deals etc. I get that however I am only posting facts as I know it so if people don't like it I have no control over it .


Keep in mind that sometimes trades are done though value is not equal because a team may see though a great player they are looking for another player whom fits into that teams system better .
As well as sometimes a trade though not fair value is done because of freeing up cap space for the next season to land a player whom that team may want .
I already explained clear reasons for trading Gay so no more for me to say there .

I do know 1 specific star in the league the Kings brass feel they have a really good chance to sign as well as they have some really good 2nd & 3rd choices they feel they have a chance at .
I will not mention that player as of yet as the trade deadline has some bearing on any of those possibilities .

Again trades are not always fair they are done for reasons . Sometimes an immediate loss can lead to a future gain .
Saving $$$$$ , future money for free agency , future draft picks , younger talent .

Example when Boston started trading PIERCE , GARNETT , RONDO , ALLEN does anyone here think the players they got back were of solid value ? No Boston created ways to get future picks & cap space . Will smart management now they have acquired alot of young assetts + alot of future picks and a solid team overall as of now . When they traded player wise they did not get value but they were smart .
I am not claiming the Kings are doing the exact same thing . I am saying that one move leads to another future move etc. The deal isn't always fair but if you manage what you are getting in return that helps your future then that is great .

Vlade's trade of Sauce , J.T. & landry has lead us to getting Rondo , Koufas , Acy & more . I would take those new Kings trade for trade any day of the week . I know technically that wasn't a trade but that Cap space created a much better kings team & a great possible Kings future . If you can agree with that logic then you would need to try and see why one deal may lead to the next that can help you now & or your future .

[Celts17Pride]

Not much brewing right now alot of teams calling about Cousins but Kings won't talk trade him so he is a keeper 99.9% sure on that . The poster whom said we don't deserve him is crazy about that comment IMO .

As for some posters not liking some of the possible trades deals etc. I get that however I am only posting facts as I know it so if people don't like it I have no control over it .


Keep in mind that sometimes trades are done though value is not equal because a team may see though a great player they are looking for another player whom fits into that teams system better .
As well as sometimes a trade though not fair value is done because of freeing up cap space for the next season to land a player whom that team may want .
I already explained clear reasons for trading Gay so no more for me to say there .

I do know 1 specific star in the league the Kings brass feel they have a really good chance to sign as well as they have some really good 2nd & 3rd choices they feel they have a chance at .
I will not mention that player as of yet as the trade deadline has some bearing on any of those possibilities .

Again trades are not always fair they are done for reasons . Sometimes an immediate loss can lead to a future gain .
Saving $$$$$ , future money for free agency , future draft picks , younger talent .

Example when Boston started trading PIERCE , GARNETT , RONDO , ALLEN does anyone here think the players they got back were of solid value ? No Boston created ways to get future picks & cap space . Will smart management now they have acquired alot of young assetts + alot of future picks and a solid team overall as of now . When they traded player wise they did not get value but they were smart .
I am not claiming the Kings are doing the exact same thing . I am saying that one move leads to another future move etc. The deal isn't always fair but if you manage what you are getting in return that helps your future then that is great .

Vlade's trade of Sauce , J.T. & landry has lead us to getting Rondo , Koufas , Acy & more . I would take those new Kings trade for trade any day of the week . I know technically that wasn't a trade but that Cap space created a much better kings team & a great possible Kings future . If you can agree with that logic then you would need to try and see why one deal may lead to the next that can help you now & or your future .

I really like the direction the Kings are heading finally. Best wishes at the trade deadline and the rest of the year.

For the record, I wouldn't trade Cousins if I were the Kings. Especially now that it appears the Kings are heading in the right direction even though there is more work to do.

[dozencousins]

Not much brewing right now alot of teams calling about Cousins but Kings won't talk trade him so he is a keeper 99.9% sure on that . The poster whom said we don't deserve him is crazy about that comment IMO .

As for some posters not liking some of the possible trades deals etc. I get that however I am only posting facts as I know it so if people don't like it I have no control over it .


Keep in mind that sometimes trades are done though value is not equal because a team may see though a great player they are looking for another player whom fits into that teams system better .
As well as sometimes a trade though not fair value is done because of freeing up cap space for the next season to land a player whom that team may want .
I already explained clear reasons for trading Gay so no more for me to say there .

I do know 1 specific star in the league the Kings brass feel they have a really good chance to sign as well as they have some really good 2nd & 3rd choices they feel they have a chance at .
I will not mention that player as of yet as the trade deadline has some bearing on any of those possibilities .

Again trades are not always fair they are done for reasons . Sometimes an immediate loss can lead to a future gain .
Saving $$$$$ , future money for free agency , future draft picks , younger talent .

Example when Boston started trading PIERCE , GARNETT , RONDO , ALLEN does anyone here think the players they got back were of solid value ? No Boston created ways to get future picks & cap space . Will smart management now they have acquired alot of young assetts + alot of future picks and a solid team overall as of now . When they traded player wise they did not get value but they were smart .
I am not claiming the Kings are doing the exact same thing . I am saying that one move leads to another future move etc. The deal isn't always fair but if you manage what you are getting in return that helps your future then that is great .

Vlade's trade of Sauce , J.T. & landry has lead us to getting Rondo , Koufas , Acy & more . I would take those new Kings trade for trade any day of the week . I know technically that wasn't a trade but that Cap space created a much better kings team & a great possible Kings future . If you can agree with that logic then you would need to try and see why one deal may lead to the next that can help you now & or your future .

I really like the direction the Kings are heading finally. Best wishes at the trade deadline and the rest of the year.

For the record, I wouldn't trade Cousins if I were the Kings. Especially now that it appears the Kings are heading in the right direction even though there is more work to do.

I 100% agree with you . I Thank You & sure a lot of others here would in regards to your response here .
All the best to Boston just as long as it is not against the Kings .
Lol

[Kings2013]

Not much brewing right now alot of teams calling about Cousins but Kings won't talk trade him so he is a keeper 99.9% sure on that . The poster whom said we don't deserve him is crazy about that comment IMO .

As for some posters not liking some of the possible trades deals etc. I get that however I am only posting facts as I know it so if people don't like it I have no control over it .


Keep in mind that sometimes trades are done though value is not equal because a team may see though a great player they are looking for another player whom fits into that teams system better .
As well as sometimes a trade though not fair value is done because of freeing up cap space for the next season to land a player whom that team may want .
I already explained clear reasons for trading Gay so no more for me to say there .

I do know 1 specific star in the league the Kings brass feel they have a really good chance to sign as well as they have some really good 2nd & 3rd choices they feel they have a chance at .
I will not mention that player as of yet as the trade deadline has some bearing on any of those possibilities .

Again trades are not always fair they are done for reasons . Sometimes an immediate loss can lead to a future gain .
Saving $$$$$ , future money for free agency , future draft picks , younger talent .

Example when Boston started trading PIERCE , GARNETT , RONDO , ALLEN does anyone here think the players they got back were of solid value ? No Boston created ways to get future picks & cap space . Will smart management now they have acquired alot of young assetts + alot of future picks and a solid team overall as of now . When they traded player wise they did not get value but they were smart .
I am not claiming the Kings are doing the exact same thing . I am saying that one move leads to another future move etc. The deal isn't always fair but if you manage what you are getting in return that helps your future then that is great .

Vlade's trade of Sauce , J.T. & landry has lead us to getting Rondo , Koufas , Acy & more . I would take those new Kings trade for trade any day of the week . I know technically that wasn't a trade but that Cap space created a much better kings team & a great possible Kings future . If you can agree with that logic then you would need to try and see why one deal may lead to the next that can help you now & or your future .

I really like the direction the Kings are heading finally. Best wishes at the trade deadline and the rest of the year.

For the record, I wouldn't trade Cousins if I were the Kings. Especially now that it appears the Kings are heading in the right direction even though there is more work to do.

One thing I envy and admire about the Celtics is they are coached more to my desire. None of this nonsense about enmity between coach and its best players, weird schemes, playing unuseful vets (Lee/Belinelli), or being too old for the job. Just a young energetic coach getting more out of its team per talent.

[Celts17Pride]

Not much brewing right now alot of teams calling about Cousins but Kings won't talk trade him so he is a keeper 99.9% sure on that . The poster whom said we don't deserve him is crazy about that comment IMO .

As for some posters not liking some of the possible trades deals etc. I get that however I am only posting facts as I know it so if people don't like it I have no control over it .


Keep in mind that sometimes trades are done though value is not equal because a team may see though a great player they are looking for another player whom fits into that teams system better .
As well as sometimes a trade though not fair value is done because of freeing up cap space for the next season to land a player whom that team may want .
I already explained clear reasons for trading Gay so no more for me to say there .

I do know 1 specific star in the league the Kings brass feel they have a really good chance to sign as well as they have some really good 2nd & 3rd choices they feel they have a chance at .
I will not mention that player as of yet as the trade deadline has some bearing on any of those possibilities .

Again trades are not always fair they are done for reasons . Sometimes an immediate loss can lead to a future gain .
Saving $$$$$ , future money for free agency , future draft picks , younger talent .

Example when Boston started trading PIERCE , GARNETT , RONDO , ALLEN does anyone here think the players they got back were of solid value ? No Boston created ways to get future picks & cap space . Will smart management now they have acquired alot of young assetts + alot of future picks and a solid team overall as of now . When they traded player wise they did not get value but they were smart .
I am not claiming the Kings are doing the exact same thing . I am saying that one move leads to another future move etc. The deal isn't always fair but if you manage what you are getting in return that helps your future then that is great .

Vlade's trade of Sauce , J.T. & landry has lead us to getting Rondo , Koufas , Acy & more . I would take those new Kings trade for trade any day of the week . I know technically that wasn't a trade but that Cap space created a much better kings team & a great possible Kings future . If you can agree with that logic then you would need to try and see why one deal may lead to the next that can help you now & or your future .

I really like the direction the Kings are heading finally. Best wishes at the trade deadline and the rest of the year.

For the record, I wouldn't trade Cousins if I were the Kings. Especially now that it appears the Kings are heading in the right direction even though there is more work to do.

One thing I envy and admire about the Celtics is they are coached more to my desire. None of this nonsense about enmity between coach and its best players, weird schemes, playing unuseful vets (Lee/Belinelli), or being too old for the job. Just a young energetic coach getting more out of its team per talent.

Celtics fans including myself are very happy with Brad Stevens. Eager to see where Stevens can take the Celtics once the team gets a star to go with IT and the rest of the quality supporting cast.

[DavorFanCroatia]

Hay, guys. Greetings from Croatia from another Celtics fan. Hope you end your playoff drought. We Kings and Celtics fans have one thing in common...we know how it feel when the championschips is stolen from you by rigged refs and f...... Lakers (Kings in 2002., Celtics in 2010.)
So if you will ever wish to trade Boogie, trade him to us...just to stick it to the Hollywood posers...
Good luck guys