Pre Draft Workout Thread

[floppymoose]

princeofpalace: Detroit is out of the Cousins mix unless there is a trade. Warriors have announced that Cousins will not slip past 6. The last player they made that kind of announcement about was "Anthony Randolph will not slip past 14".

[SacKingZZZ]

Yeah, and the Kings passed on Randolph and took Jason Thompson. Man, Greg Monroe sounds a lot like Jason Thompson huh?

[longfellow44]

^^Actually Monroe does remind me of Thompson a lot. The problem with monroe is that he is too grounded and is very slow like Hibbert slow. I honestly don't see him as a viable target. Petrie has changed, his choices recently have been very different than when he always went with the skilled softie. Now he's about toughness and physicality. Cousins embodies that I think he'll be our pick if he's there.

[SacKingZZZ]

His slowness is overrated. He's actually pretty fluid in his side to side movement.

Sounds more and more like it's Cousins or Favors. If Petrie passes on either for Monroe, well, that's the kind of move that can get you fired sooner than later.

I have a feeling Favors drops, but I'm more sure Minny will take him though.

[KennerLeaguer]

^^Actually Monroe does remind me of Thompson a lot. The problem with monroe is that he is too grounded and is very slow like Hibbert slow. I honestly don't see him as a viable target. Petrie has changed, his choices recently have been very different than when he always went with the skilled softie. Now he's about toughness and physicality. Cousins embodies that I think he'll be our pick if he's there.

Good grief. I'm a Hibbert fan (amazing how some of you still disrespect that kid) but even I think its crazy for anyone to compare his speed to Monroe's. Monroe was never slow, not getting down the court or moving from side to side. His feet are very nimble. To say he is as "slow" as Hibbert means you haven't really seen him play but instead you're just talking out your ass.

[SacKingZZZ]

The only real concern I have with Monroe is his leaping ability and jumping speed. That and he's much more of a PF than a C.

[longfellow44]

^^Actually Monroe does remind me of Thompson a lot. The problem with monroe is that he is too grounded and is very slow like Hibbert slow. I honestly don't see him as a viable target. Petrie has changed, his choices recently have been very different than when he always went with the skilled softie. Now he's about toughness and physicality. Cousins embodies that I think he'll be our pick if he's there.

Good grief. I'm a Hibbert fan (amazing how some of you still disrespect that kid) but even I think its crazy for anyone to compare his speed to Monroe's. Monroe was never slow, not getting down the court or moving from side to side. His feet are very nimble. To say he is as "slow" as Hibbert means you haven't really seen him play but instead you're just talking out your ass.

I've watched him play, I live in DC right now and have watched a decent amount of George town. He plays like he is glued to the ground. He has great foot work he does, he's just slow to move, he doesn't move laterally with any speed, and he back pedals slower than shaq allowing any face up big to take him off the dribble. Skill wise there is no one in this draft as skilled as monroe but physically I don't spend a top 10 pick on the guy, He moves like Brad Miller moves now.

[KF10]

Someone explain to me why do we consider a guy like Monroe if we traded away a similar player away (Hawes) in a trade?

I don't think we traded Hawes to bring in another player that almost replicate what Hawes can do. I think we are trying to get away from the "Princeton-offense type" players due to the makeup of the team.

[pillwenney]

My concern with Monroe isn't leaping or athleticism or speed. It's desire and toughness. How many players that have the soft label eventually shake it? Almost none. It's just not what we need.

[longfellow44]

^^^with the soft label plus the lack of speed and in general poor mobility he just isn't our guy. Our new direction doesn't allow for soft players.

[RIPskaterdude]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I can't wait til Thursday if this is true...

The Kings have not made up their mind at No. 5, but a well positioned league source is telling me that they continue to lean toward DeMarcus Cousins with the pick. While there isn’t totally unanimity in the Kings’ war room, that’s where the consensus lies. Greg Monroe is still in the conversation and a trade isn’t out of the realm of possibility but if the draft were to happen tonight, Cousins would be the man.

http://espn.go.com/blog/TrueHoop/post/_ ... draft-buzz

[SacKingZZZ]

Someone explain to me why do we consider a guy like Monroe if we traded away a similar player away (Hawes) in a trade?

I don't think we traded Hawes to bring in another player that almost replicate what Hawes can do. I think we are trying to get away from the "Princeton-offense type" players due to the makeup of the team.

Monroe is easily the most skilled big in the draft. Maybe like Hawes but far more legit with more potential?

I think Monroe is unfairly getting dumped on to an extent. He really is a great prospect, the only problem I have is that if you pass on Cousins, Johnson, or Favors you are passing up the CLEAR top 5 player in what is widely considered a 5 player draft. I wouldn't be outraged to end up with Monroe but passing up that kind of value for someone that appears to have less upside or potential is a mistake more often than not.

[SacKingZZZ]

My concern with Monroe isn't leaping or athleticism or speed. It's desire and toughness. How many players that have the soft label eventually shake it? Almost none. It's just not what we need.

Gasol most notably. In fact, Monroe is a lot like Gasol in terms of his skill set.

[longfellow44]

^^yes but then again gasol is pretty light on his feet and can close out on a guy facing him up no problem.

[darkadun]

Wow, thats pretty interesting. I hadn't thought of comparing him to Gasol, but they are pretty similiar. Gasol is a good passer out of the high post, you have to worry about his outside shot or going right by you and scoring with his length. If Monroe can be a player of the caliber, by all means bring it on.

New Jersey is making things interesting. Now they say Monroe is in the mix at the 3, as well as rumors surfacing they want a Wes Johnson/Boozer combination. If they get those 2 guys to pair up with Harris/Lopez...thats a pretty good team IMO. 2 all-stars and 2 potential all-stars.

[pillwenney]

My concern with Monroe isn't leaping or athleticism or speed. It's desire and toughness. How many players that have the soft label eventually shake it? Almost none. It's just not what we need.

Gasol most notably. In fact, Monroe is a lot like Gasol in terms of his skill set.

Gasol was never really soft. He just seemed soft because of the offensive flopping.

In any case, that's one against literally dozens of examples to the contrary. If it's not completely impossible, it's certainly very, very rare.

In any case, Monroe certainly doesn't have the length to anywhere near the success Gasol has.

[RookieWall]

Cousins is the pick if they keep it, 95%.

If they're trading it'll be with whoever takes Monroe or Whiteside.

[perezident]

Rookie Wall...what are you hearing? Your top5

[Castor_Troy]

Sacramento has decided to draft Kentucky's DeMarcus Cousins with the 5th pick, multiple sources with direct knowledge of Kings plans tell Y!

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA


Yeah Buddae!

[Nicky Nix Nook]

Sacramento has decided to draft Kentucky's DeMarcus Cousins with the 5th pick, multiple sources with direct knowledge of Kings plans tell Y!

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA


Yeah Buddae!

This only makes me think we're NOT taking Cousins.