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Post#301 » by OxAndFox » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:28 am

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I thought all our problems would be fixed with low iq, low innate motor fox gone. Weird


Onto the next one!


You are right hes already starting in on keegan "innate motor". Didn't take long


His non smiling after dunks really limits the ceiling of this team.
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#302 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:31 am

OxAndFox wrote:
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Onto the next one!


You are right hes already starting in on keegan "innate motor". Didn't take long


His non smiling after dunks really limits the ceiling of this team.


LMAOOOO
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Post#303 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:32 am

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BoogieTime wrote:The elexir more and more looks like Keon starting


I thought all our problems would be fixed with low iq, low innate motor fox gone. Weird


He’s not good and wouldn’t have touched this game (team was 4-0 with an average +13 without him prior to putting in new players). Fox doesn’t matter. Only Keon and our new faces discombobulated


At least you've come around on Keon. Only took 3-4 months
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#304 » by BoogieTime » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:37 am

LightTheBeam wrote:
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I thought all our problems would be fixed with low iq, low innate motor fox gone. Weird


He’s not good and wouldn’t have touched this game (team was 4-0 with an average +13 without him prior to putting in new players). Fox doesn’t matter. Only Keon and our new faces discombobulated


At least you've come around on Keon. Only took 3-4 months


That would assume I wasn’t for him for month(s?) now (when the statistical evidence began accumulating)
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#305 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:38 am

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He’s not good and wouldn’t have touched this game (team was 4-0 with an average +13 without him prior to putting in new players). Fox doesn’t matter. Only Keon and our new faces discombobulated


At least you've come around on Keon. Only took 3-4 months


That would assume I wasn’t for him for month(s?) now (when the statistical evidence began accumulating)


Didnt need statistically evidence. He proved it end of last year. You just choose to ignore it for 3 months arguing that huerters gravity was more important.
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Post#306 » by BoogieTime » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:44 am

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At least you've come around on Keon. Only took 3-4 months


That would assume I wasn’t for him for month(s?) now (when the statistical evidence began accumulating)


Didnt need statistically evidence. He proved it end of last year. You just choose to ignore it for 3 months arguing that huerters gravity was more important.


And Mike Brown who probably knows more about basketball than all of us (why he’s an nba coach, and one who won COY multiple times I believe) agreed.
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Post#307 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:49 am

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That would assume I wasn’t for him for month(s?) now (when the statistical evidence began accumulating)


Didnt need statistically evidence. He proved it end of last year. You just choose to ignore it for 3 months arguing that huerters gravity was more important.


And Mike Brown who probably knows more about basketball than all of us (why he’s an nba coach, and one who won COY multiple times I believe) agreed.


And that decision most likely led to him getting fired lmao
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Post#308 » by BoogieTime » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:57 am

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Didnt need statistically evidence. He proved it end of last year. You just choose to ignore it for 3 months arguing that huerters gravity was more important.


And Mike Brown who probably knows more about basketball than all of us (why he’s an nba coach, and one who won COY multiple times I believe) agreed.


And that decision most likely led to him getting fired lmao


Losing the team did.

I thought Brown actually graced Keon as the starter coming into this season possibly, but with how awful the team and he looked in SL/preseason he had to go with Huerter despite coming off lengthy injury and he has better stats last year with the starters

Than when Huerter began losing his career he thought he would go with the best playmaker and arguably second most important player on the team Monk (Fox could’ve been moved and the team starting the dynamic Monk/Keon).
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#309 » by codydaze » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:00 am

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Onto the next one!


You are right hes already starting in on keegan "innate motor". Didn't take long


It’s apparent to anyone watching that he disappears sporadically


It's hard for him to get involved when you have three volume scorers plus a facilitating big man sharing the floor with him. He's improved so much defensively but we aren't helping his offensive development bringing in all these volume guys and lowering him in the pecking order. Can't expect him to develop into this 18-20 ppg two way guy if the shots aren't there to go around.
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#310 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:09 am

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You are right hes already starting in on keegan "innate motor". Didn't take long


It’s apparent to anyone watching that he disappears sporadically


It's hard for him to get involved when you have three volume scorers plus a facilitating big man sharing the floor with him. He's improved so much defensively but we aren't helping his offensive development bringing in all these volume guys and lowering him in the pecking order. Can't expect him to develop into this 18-20 ppg two way guy if the shots aren't there to go around.


I know demar and lavine are buddies, but the only answer here is to trade demar. This team doesn't fit.
We need to move demar for a lower usage guy with size + defense + shooting. I'm in on cam johnson. Demar + Devin + spurs 1st.

You need 2 athletic forwards who can shoot around monk/lavine/sabons
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#311 » by BoogieTime » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:14 am

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You are right hes already starting in on keegan "innate motor". Didn't take long


It’s apparent to anyone watching that he disappears sporadically


It's hard for him to get involved when you have three volume scorers plus a facilitating big man sharing the floor with him. He's improved so much defensively but we aren't helping his offensive development bringing in all these volume guys and lowering him in the pecking order. Can't expect him to develop into this 18-20 ppg two way guy if the shots aren't there to go around.


It doesn’t stop that if you go on twitter/other Kings forums you will notice fans taking note that Keegan appears to have the demeanor/personality of not showing up for certain games (though he has fans here)

And demeanor/personality are typically innate

That supersedes shot availability

Hopefully he continues to improve
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#312 » by codydaze » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:18 am

BoogieTime wrote:
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It’s apparent to anyone watching that he disappears sporadically


It's hard for him to get involved when you have three volume scorers plus a facilitating big man sharing the floor with him. He's improved so much defensively but we aren't helping his offensive development bringing in all these volume guys and lowering him in the pecking order. Can't expect him to develop into this 18-20 ppg two way guy if the shots aren't there to go around.


It doesn’t stop that if you go on twitter/other Kings forums you will notice fans taking note that Keegan appears to have the demeanor/personality of not showing up for certain games (though he has fans here)

And demeanor/personality are typically innate

That supersedes shot availability

Hopefully he continues to improve


I truly could not care less what other fans on the internet think of his personality. And his personality has not a single thing to do with shots not being available. Look at the shot distribution for the starters today. Monk (11 FGA), Lavine (13 FGA), Derozan (11 FGA) and Sabonis (10 FGA), then you have Keegan with 6 FGA. That's relatively low volume for those guys too, who are you taking shots from so Keegan gets more volume?
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#313 » by OxAndFox » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:18 am

Think the Kings need to trade for a 2nd ball.
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#314 » by BoogieTime » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:29 am

codydaze wrote:
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It's hard for him to get involved when you have three volume scorers plus a facilitating big man sharing the floor with him. He's improved so much defensively but we aren't helping his offensive development bringing in all these volume guys and lowering him in the pecking order. Can't expect him to develop into this 18-20 ppg two way guy if the shots aren't there to go around.


It doesn’t stop that if you go on twitter/other Kings forums you will notice fans taking note that Keegan appears to have the demeanor/personality of not showing up for certain games (though he has fans here)

And demeanor/personality are typically innate

That supersedes shot availability

Hopefully he continues to improve


I truly could not care less what other fans on the internet think of his personality. And his personality has not a single thing to do with shots not being available. Look at the shot distribution for the starters today. Monk (11 FGA), Lavine (13 FGA), Derozan (11 FGA) and Sabonis (10 FGA), then you have Keegan with 6 FGA. That's relatively low volume for those guys too, who are you taking shots from so Keegan gets more volume?


Noticing drive/impact/gravity on the floor go beyond trying to reason shot distribution
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#315 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:34 am

OxAndFox wrote:Think the Kings need to trade for a 2nd ball.


How about lamelo ball? Hornets just dumped mark Williams.

Im calling and offering demar, Carter, lyles + every pick that isn't hammered to the ground.
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#316 » by OxAndFox » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:38 am

LightTheBeam wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:Think the Kings need to trade for a 2nd ball.


How about lamelo ball? Hornets just dumped mark Williams.

Im calling and offering demar, Carter, lyles + every pick that isn't hammered to the ground.


I'll allow it! 1 Wilson Ball and 1 actual Ball.
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#317 » by OxAndFox » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:39 am

Would still have that stupid looking Keegan on the team though.
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#318 » by BoogieTime » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:43 am

OxAndFox wrote:Would still have that stupid looking Keegan on the team though.


Or he could be moved for a consistent player like Cam, it’s an option
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Post#319 » by OxAndFox » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:49 am

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OxAndFox wrote:Would still have that stupid looking Keegan on the team though.


Or he could be moved for a consistent player like Cam, it’s an option


Oh great. And then you would whinge about Cam going for 9 points against an even more banged up Magic team than what the Kings played tonight, and Cam doesn't play as well at the other end either. Just switching out scapegoats.
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Re: 2024-25 General Thread 

Post#320 » by BoogieTime » Thu Feb 6, 2025 8:19 am

2:35 on Napears post game, his first thought is Keegan’s inconsistency (without me even listening prior)

It’s glaring to his non fans, and at issue

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