2023 Off-season Thread

[LightTheBeam]

The Holmes trade cannot be completed until July 6th. Odds are Duarte will be absorbed by the Holmes TPE if they are acting over the cap. As for Sasha, he's probably torn.

As Cody wrote, we still could mess around and sign Grant Williams to a 4/52. Does he go for 13AAV? Slightly above MLE?

I know people are really bought into Sasha, but I wouldn't mind Grant with cap space + Jalen McDaniels to the RE

Now you've added 2 competent defenders to the lineup. Youve added 2 rotation forwards so barnes becomes moveable. And because you've added duarte/colby, you can consider moving Huerter if those guys perform well.

It opens up a trade mid season using Huerter/Barnes + picks for a legit upgrade forward (Siakam anyone?)

Sabonis/Lyles
Stud forward/Grant williams
Murray/McDaniels/Edwards
Duarte/Monk/Colby
Fox/Mitchell

You could be looking at a capable defensive team with the right deal.

[OxAndFox]

So as of right now, the Kings are?
Fox/Davion/Dozier
Huerter/Monk/Jones
Keegan/Duarte/Edwards/Slawson (2 Way)
Barnes/Vezenkov/Lyles
Sabonis

Do the Kings still have a small amount of cap space? Like $3.5m?
As far as backup 5s are concerned.
Jaxson Hayes
Mason Plumlee
Christian Wood
Paul Reed (RFA)
Alex Len
Jock Landale (RFA)
Mo Wagner
Omer Yurtseven
Robin Lopez
Queta
Bismack Biyombo
Thomas Bryant
Frank Kaminsky
Taj Gibson
Luka Garza
Blake Griffin

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Seems like we have more flexibility where we can still sign someone up to 4/52 in addition to Barnes/Lyles/Duarte/Sasha if I'm reading this right.

Thanks for that.
Everything I have read mentions Sasha's offer was just under Keegan's salary. I would have thought it was the room exception @ $7.7m.
So we have room to make another decent move.

[KF10]

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[vtime]

Monte doing nice work. Staying with high character guys.
Love the HB signing, Lyles is an overpay but worth it and I love Duarte's game. Wondered why he dropped so much this past season.
Waiting for a Barnes/Huerter/Picks trade for someone.

If anything Lyles is an underpay.

[LightTheBeam]

Correct me if I'm wrong but we were rumored on thybulle last deadline?

With Dame asking out, he doesn't make a ton of sense back in Portland.

I'm thinking he may be an option for the backup 3.

[codydaze]

Correct me if I'm wrong but we were rumored on thybulle last deadline?

With Dame asking out, he doesn't make a ton of sense back in Portland.

I'm thinking he may be an option for the backup 3.

I'd be down with Thybulle. Pick up Mason Plumlee for some extra big depth too?

Fox-Huerter-HB-Keegan-Sabonis
Davion-Monk-Thybulle-Sasha-Lyles

Then you have Duarte, Plumlee, Kessler, Jones and Queta as the rest of the 15 man.

[BoogieTime]

I really appreciate Dame requesting the trade AFTER Grant has been locked up, not allowing the rebuild

Then again that contract..

[LightTheBeam]

Correct me if I'm wrong but we were rumored on thybulle last deadline?

With Dame asking out, he doesn't make a ton of sense back in Portland.

I'm thinking he may be an option for the backup 3.

I'd be down with Thybulle. Pick up Mason Plumlee for some extra big depth too?

Fox-Huerter-HB-Keegan-Sabonis
Davion-Monk-Thybulle-Sasha-Lyles

Then you have Duarte, Plumlee, Kessler, Jones and Queta as the rest of the 15 man.

I'd love that, but have a feeling Plumlee could get a guaranteed 20mpg role on a good team pretty easily. If Pelicans dump JV as rumored he could even start there. And probably same in Milwaukee if Brook walks out the door. And then there's heading back to the perfect system in Denver to backup Jokic for a season and go for a ring.

So I'd have it as unlikely, but would love it!

AS for Thybulle, if we are going to punt defense, getting a guy like him is a great answer. Not sure he's a complete game changer on that end, but having the option to go to him and Mitchell would be pretty impactful defensively (even if it would hurt our offense for stretches). Could think of a few scenarios that would have been worth it, like Curry dropping 50 on us.

[codydaze]

Correct me if I'm wrong but we were rumored on thybulle last deadline?

With Dame asking out, he doesn't make a ton of sense back in Portland.

I'm thinking he may be an option for the backup 3.

I'd be down with Thybulle. Pick up Mason Plumlee for some extra big depth too?

Fox-Huerter-HB-Keegan-Sabonis
Davion-Monk-Thybulle-Sasha-Lyles

Then you have Duarte, Plumlee, Kessler, Jones and Queta as the rest of the 15 man.

I'd love that, but have a feeling Plumlee could get a guaranteed 20mpg role on a good team pretty easily. If Pelicans dump JV as rumored he could even start there. And probably same in Milwaukee if Brook walks out the door. And then there's heading back to the perfect system in Denver to backup Jokic for a season and go for a ring.

So I'd have it as unlikely, but would love it!

AS for Thybulle, if we are going to punt defense, getting a guy like him is a great answer. Not sure he's a complete game changer on that end, but having the option to go to him and Mitchell would be pretty impactful defensively (even if it would hurt our offense for stretches). Could think of a few scenarios that would have been worth it, like Curry dropping 50 on us.

Yeah, Plumlee would be a nice to have. Can just keep Dozier around if not.

[LightTheBeam]

How are we all feeling about Lyles + Sasha as the backup bigs?

Lyles had some really good moments as the backup center last season (Minnesota game + playoffs). But it just seems odd for the team to commit to that for an entire season when they rarely used it last season.

[City of Trees]

I really appreciate Dame requesting the trade AFTER Grant has been locked up, not allowing the rebuild

Then again that contract..

That was my first thought after hearing Dame requested a trade. Wtf

[blind prophet]

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A bit more than I was hoping we'd pay him.

Hopefully year 3 is partial or a team option.

[blind prophet]

What do you guys think of Matisse Thybulle?

[BoogieTime]

So as of right now, the Kings are?
Fox/Davion/Dozier
Huerter/Monk/Jones
Keegan/Duarte/Edwards/Slawson (2 Way)
Barnes/Vezenkov/Lyles
Sabonis

Do the Kings still have a small amount of cap space? Like $3.5m?
As far as backup 5s are concerned.
Jaxson Hayes
Mason Plumlee
Christian Wood
Paul Reed (RFA)
Alex Len
Jock Landale (RFA)
Mo Wagner
Omer Yurtseven
Robin Lopez
Queta
Bismack Biyombo
Thomas Bryant
Frank Kaminsky
Taj Gibson
Luka Garza
Blake Griffin

Read on Twitter

Seems like we have more flexibility where we can still sign someone up to 4/52 in addition to Barnes/Lyles/Duarte/Sasha if I'm reading this right.

Thanks for that.
Everything I have read mentions Sasha's offer was just under Keegan's salary. I would have thought it was the room exception @ $7.7m.
So we have room to make another decent move.

I expect Domas extension so a smaller one perhaps?

[Crimson King]

Is still signing one of the forwards from the Hornets (PJ Washington or Bridges) possible or the space left is too small?

[OGSactownballer]

I really appreciate Dame requesting the trade AFTER Grant has been locked up, not allowing the rebuild

Then again that contract..

I said in response to Texas Chuck on the trade board that FO is either stupid or totally jacked up with the wrong voices being heard.

I would absolutely back off any non signed deal here with Grant who is being WAY overpaid as a role player. That’s practically an un-moveable contract and almost a re iteration of the Tobias Harris deal.

And if they really knew about it on Monday?!?!

Even stupider.

[OGSactownballer]

I'd be down with Thybulle. Pick up Mason Plumlee for some extra big depth too?

Fox-Huerter-HB-Keegan-Sabonis
Davion-Monk-Thybulle-Sasha-Lyles

Then you have Duarte, Plumlee, Kessler, Jones and Queta as the rest of the 15 man.

I'd love that, but have a feeling Plumlee could get a guaranteed 20mpg role on a good team pretty easily. If Pelicans dump JV as rumored he could even start there. And probably same in Milwaukee if Brook walks out the door. And then there's heading back to the perfect system in Denver to backup Jokic for a season and go for a ring.

So I'd have it as unlikely, but would love it!

AS for Thybulle, if we are going to punt defense, getting a guy like him is a great answer. Not sure he's a complete game changer on that end, but having the option to go to him and Mitchell would be pretty impactful defensively (even if it would hurt our offense for stretches). Could think of a few scenarios that would have been worth it, like Curry dropping 50 on us.

Yeah, Plumlee would be a nice to have. Can just keep Dozier around if not.

The talk right now is that Plumlee will be the starter for LAC and that Zubac is available.

If grab him in a second because he has the skill set to minimize the drop-off from Domas in the second group but brings a lot more defensively which works well with that group.

[OGSactownballer]

How are we all feeling about Lyles + Sasha as the backup bigs?

Lyles had some really good moments as the backup center last season (Minnesota game + playoffs). But it just seems odd for the team to commit to that for an entire season when they rarely used it last season.

I don’t mind Trey in limited minutes as a small ball b/u Center. But ideally he is your second team and sometime first team (closing) stretch four and you let Sasha play as a big SF to make it a big lineup.

[OGSactownballer]

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A bit more than I was hoping we'd pay him.

Hopefully year 3 is partial or a team option.

Actually it’s very reasonable and exactly where I was hoping we would be with him.

6.67/per average and likely looks like 6.25/6.75/7.25 over the life. Very reasonable and totally moveable as well. And reasonable increase rate on the back end of you want to keep him.

[OGSactownballer]

Is still signing one of the forwards from the Hornets (PJ Washington or Bridges) possible or the space left is too small?

Possible yes although not hard to match with what we have left.

But not really much point now because the spots are pretty filled to take on a starter caliber player or big minutes bench guy.

You absolutely don’t want to create a situation that messes with our great locker room chemistry. And a lack of minutes for guys who consider themselves to be starters would do just that.

Now if they do sign one of them? Im expecting a bigger trade to immediately follow for a star and to consolidate the talent.