Game 54: Portland Trail Blazers (30-25) @ Sacramento Kings (17-36) - 10:30 PM ET

[City of Trees]

Temple 27 minutes. Carter 22. Buddy 22. Nope, didn't see it tonight.

Come on you're better than that

WCS- 31
Fox- 34
Bogi- 33
Jackson- 27


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[SacKingZZZ]

Buddy saying 20 mpg ain't enough.

Then he needs to grow 2-4 inches or beat BB in practice. Neither is likely to happen.

Like I thought originally, I think Buddy will settle into the bench gunner role for this team.

Or play together. The stupidest thing they could do is make it a competition between the two. They've looked good playing together earlier in the year. I don't know why they've gone away from that.

Tonight: Temple -15. Carter -15. Buddy -4. Good thing they didn't let that mismatch ghost jump up and go boo!

[SacKingZZZ]

Temple 27 minutes. Carter 22. Buddy 22. Nope, didn't see it tonight.

Come on youre better than that

WCS- 31
Fox- 34
Bogi- 33
Jackson- 27


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I get the injuries being an issue, but this was the same basic rotation he's run. And I'm saying I didn't see Temple and Carter getting those minutes over Buddy if the idea is to go with the "youth".

[City of Trees]

Joerger said we did a good job holding Lillard to 0 points in the 4th

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[City of Trees]

Temple 27 minutes. Carter 22. Buddy 22. Nope, didn't see it tonight.

Come on youre better than that

WCS- 31
Fox- 34
Bogi- 33
Jackson- 27


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I get the injuries being an issue, but this was the same basic rotation he's run. And I'm saying I didn't see Temple and Carter getting those minutes over Buddy if the idea is to go with the "youth".

Temple was running point duty. Buddy cant do that. Buddy cant play the 4 either. VC did.

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[City of Trees]

IMO Bogi getting 33 min and Jackson getting close to 30 is going to keep Buddy around that 25mpg range

Especially if Caboclo gets run and Fox/Mason play together at times

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[City of Trees]

Our tank looks

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[SacKingZZZ]

Come on youre better than that

WCS- 31
Fox- 34
Bogi- 33
Jackson- 27


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I get the injuries being an issue, but this was the same basic rotation he's run. And I'm saying I didn't see Temple and Carter getting those minutes over Buddy if the idea is to go with the "youth".

Temple was running point duty. Buddy cant do that. Buddy cant play the 4 either. VC did.

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On route to 2 assists? Buddy can play in pick and roll just as much as anyone else. There were minutes to nab here and there, they didn't do it. They ran Buddy in his typical come in with a minute remaining the 1st quarter and sub back in an hour later. There were plenty of ways to stagger the minutes to eek more out. The Blazers when small don't beat anyone up inside from the wing outside of maybe Turner who is a good post up player.

[benchmobbin02]

Buddy saying 20 mpg ain't enough.

Then he needs to grow 2-4 inches or beat BB in practice. Neither is likely to happen.

Like I thought originally, I think Buddy will settle into the bench gunner role for this team.

Or play together. The stupidest thing they could do is make it a competition between the two. They've looked good playing together earlier in the year. I don't know why they've gone away from that.

Tonight: Temple -15. Carter -15. Buddy -4. Good thing they didn't let that mismatch ghost jump up and go boo!

Carter was getting frontline mins today. But yeah, Buddy did great in garbage time vs Connaughton and Napier on the offensive end. The mismatch comes on the defensive end when Turner and Harkless were taking him to the block. That is what i was talking about.

Of course, when they went with 3 guards than playing BB and Hield together makes sense.

[SacKingZZZ]

IMO Bogi getting 33 min and Jackson getting close to 30 is going to keep Buddy around that 25mpg range

Especially if Caboclo gets run and Fox/Mason play together at times

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So you give one of your top performing 1st/2nd year players the short end? Nope, don't get it. Fox, Buddy, Bogdan, Skal, and Willie looks like it does the trick on paper. It would be nice to see if it does it on the floor to.

[benchmobbin02]

I get the injuries being an issue, but this was the same basic rotation he's run. And I'm saying I didn't see Temple and Carter getting those minutes over Buddy if the idea is to go with the "youth".

Temple was running point duty. Buddy cant do that. Buddy cant play the 4 either. VC did.

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On route to 2 assists? Buddy can play in pick and roll just as much as anyone else. There were minutes to nab here and there, they didn't do it. They ran Buddy in his typical come in with a minute remaining the 1st quarter and sub back in an hour later. There were plenty of ways to stagger the minutes to eek more out. The Blazers when small don't beat anyone up inside from the wing outside of maybe Turner who is a good post up player.

He can play pick and roll but we don't trust his decision making with the ball in his hand as much as we do Fox Mason BB or Temple. I'm sure he is working on it and maybe once he improves in those areas more minutes will open up for him but running point is more than knowing how to execute a pick and roll.

[SacKingZZZ]

Then he needs to grow 2-4 inches or beat BB in practice. Neither is likely to happen.

Like I thought originally, I think Buddy will settle into the bench gunner role for this team.

Or play together. The stupidest thing they could do is make it a competition between the two. They've looked good playing together earlier in the year. I don't know why they've gone away from that.

Tonight: Temple -15. Carter -15. Buddy -4. Good thing they didn't let that mismatch ghost jump up and go boo!

Carter was getting frontline mins today. But yeah, Buddy did great in garbage time vs Connaughton and Napier on the offensive end. The mismatch comes on the defensive end when Turner and Harkless were taking him to the block. That is what i was talking about.

Of course, when they went with 3 guards than playing BB and Hield together makes sense.

Didn't see it being an issue. And they were down by the 20's anyway.

I still think Bogdanovic has looked better guarding 3's. He seems to struggle guarding smaller players but on the bigger ones we've seen nothing that indicates he's going to be a major negative.

[benchmobbin02]

IMO Bogi getting 33 min and Jackson getting close to 30 is going to keep Buddy around that 25mpg range

Especially if Caboclo gets run and Fox/Mason play together at times

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So you give one of your top performing 1st/2nd year players the short end? Nope, don't get it. Fox, Buddy, Bogdan, Skal, and Willie looks like it does the trick on paper. It would be nice to see if it does it on the floor to.

Even if we ran that lineup the minutes would still not lineup for Buddy to over 25 IMO. Too many big small forwards in the league.

[SacKingZZZ]

Temple was running point duty. Buddy cant do that. Buddy cant play the 4 either. VC did.

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On route to 2 assists? Buddy can play in pick and roll just as much as anyone else. There were minutes to nab here and there, they didn't do it. They ran Buddy in his typical come in with a minute remaining the 1st quarter and sub back in an hour later. There were plenty of ways to stagger the minutes to eek more out. The Blazers when small don't beat anyone up inside from the wing outside of maybe Turner who is a good post up player.

He can play pick and roll but we don't trust his decision making with the ball in his hand as much as we do Fox Mason BB or Temple. I'm sure he is working on it and maybe once he improves in those areas more minutes will open up for him but running point is more than knowing how to execute a pick and roll.

That's most of what the point did tonight. Also, when they run their motion offense they don't seek a lot of play marking directly from the point. They swing the ball more than anything. Buddy didn't need to play PG tonight or any night to get minutes. Fox, Buddy, and Bogdan can play together and certainly not much worse than something that sees you down 20 regardless.

[SacKingZZZ]

IMO Bogi getting 33 min and Jackson getting close to 30 is going to keep Buddy around that 25mpg range

Especially if Caboclo gets run and Fox/Mason play together at times

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So you give one of your top performing 1st/2nd year players the short end? Nope, don't get it. Fox, Buddy, Bogdan, Skal, and Willie looks like it does the trick on paper. It would be nice to see if it does it on the floor to.

Even if we ran that lineup the minutes would still not lineup for Buddy to over 25 IMO. Too many big small forwards in the league.

Like I said, Bogdan has looked no worse than Temple when playing against them and has looked quite good IMO. He gets beat by the smaller players, Buddy does better against the smaller players. If it's a question of defense then you start with that.

[benchmobbin02]

Or play together. The stupidest thing they could do is make it a competition between the two. They've looked good playing together earlier in the year. I don't know why they've gone away from that.

Tonight: Temple -15. Carter -15. Buddy -4. Good thing they didn't let that mismatch ghost jump up and go boo!

Carter was getting frontline mins today. But yeah, Buddy did great in garbage time vs Connaughton and Napier on the offensive end. The mismatch comes on the defensive end when Turner and Harkless were taking him to the block. That is what i was talking about.

Of course, when they went with 3 guards than playing BB and Hield together makes sense.

Didn't see it being an issue. And they were down by the 20's anyway.

I still think Bogdanovic has looked better guarding 3's. He seems to struggle guarding smaller players but on the bigger ones we've seen nothing that indicates he's going to be a major negative.

Turner missed a few of those shots but not because of the defense and that was before they were down by 20.

And BB isn't better guarding 3s. That is false. Look at today, he did a great job on McCollum. Put him on Lilliard and yeah you may have an issue but who doesn't.

[benchmobbin02]

So you give one of your top performing 1st/2nd year players the short end? Nope, don't get it. Fox, Buddy, Bogdan, Skal, and Willie looks like it does the trick on paper. It would be nice to see if it does it on the floor to.

Even if we ran that lineup the minutes would still not lineup for Buddy to over 25 IMO. Too many big small forwards in the league.

Like I said, Bogdan has looked no worse than Temple when playing against them and has looked quite good IMO. He gets beat by the smaller players, Buddy does better against the smaller players. If it's a question of defense then you start with that.

I said a lineup of Fox Bud and BB won't get Bud over 25 mins because BB would struggle vs bigger 3s.

[SacKingZZZ]

Even if we ran that lineup the minutes would still not lineup for Buddy to over 25 IMO. Too many big small forwards in the league.

Like I said, Bogdan has looked no worse than Temple when playing against them and has looked quite good IMO. He gets beat by the smaller players, Buddy does better against the smaller players. If it's a question of defense then you start with that.

I said a lineup of Fox Bud and BB won't get Bud over 25 mins because BB would struggle vs bigger 3s.

What match up has that struggle materialized in thus far? I haven't seen many times where him guarding a bigger player was an issue so great it caused the Kings great harm, it's smaller guards that seem to give him problems. Also, the Kings dictating their defense by match ups is almost moot considering the end result is a bottom rung defensive output when they do anyway. They should look to the other side of the floor where Buddy is probably their best shot to improve. They are the worst offensive team in the league, that's unacceptable when you are limiting possibly your best scorer like that.

[benchmobbin02]

Like I said, Bogdan has looked no worse than Temple when playing against them and has looked quite good IMO. He gets beat by the smaller players, Buddy does better against the smaller players. If it's a question of defense then you start with that.

I said a lineup of Fox Bud and BB won't get Bud over 25 mins because BB would struggle vs bigger 3s.

What match up has that struggle materialized in thus far? I haven't seen many times where him guarding a bigger player was an issue so great it caused the Kings great harm, it's smaller guards that seem to give him problems. Also, the Kings dictating their defense by match ups is almost moot considering the end result is a bottom rung defensive output when they do anyway. They should look to the other side of the floor where Buddy is probably their best shot to improve. They are the worst offensive team in the league, that's unacceptable when you are limiting possibly your best scorer like that.

Off the top of my head - TJ Warren, Joe Ingles, Bazemore and Prince and DeRozan. I realize some of these guys are listed as SGs but they are the type of size and player I'm talking about that give him issues.

[LightTheBeam]

Temple 27 minutes. Carter 22. Buddy 22. Nope, didn't see it tonight.

This made me sick as well.

Coach has two guys who should be running point right now. Fox and Bogdan but he's a joke of a coach so what does he do, play temple and Vince a combined 49 minutes while buddy doesn't see the court the entire 3rd quarter.

We aren't trying to win so matchup are irrelevant.

I'm on board with vlades vision, definitely not on board with joergers execution of said vision.

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