RipPizzaGuy wrote:So Malcolm Brogdon was just traded for less than Huerter.
Malcolm had a down 3pt shooting season, but for his career his on par with Huerter. He also does pretty much everything else better than Huerter (except health).
RipPizzaGuy wrote:benchmobbin02 wrote:RipPizzaGuy wrote:
Very generous to call Nesmith a prospect. Celtics fans wondered if they could dump him outright without attaching a 2nd this summer. Theis is looked at as bad salary.
I stand by what I said.
Also interesting to refer to Theis as a vet, but Holiday as an expiring. Holiday is more useful than Theis and on a much better deal.
Theis is definitely more useful than Holiday.
I believe Theis is a bad contract that teams didn't want. Houston overpaid for him, and then immediately had buyers remorse and dumped him back to Boston for bad expiring contracts.
This feels like we are getting lost in the weeds. The 4 players who were traded are all irrelevant. Huerter brought back a Sac 1st, Brogdon brought back a Boston 1st.
OxAndFox wrote:I don't mind this trade at all. I am a Huerter believer. Just not exactly sure how much 3 he can play. I remember seeing him play some 3 against the Kings, but he would need to be there for extended periods with Monk on board.
I'm with Pizza on the pick thing. I'm sure Monte has a reason for doing '24 pick, but why not have it as '23 and try and get it out of the way? That way, if say the Kings make the POs next season he can go ahead with an all in move of being a PO contending team to a championship contender if/when a star wants out.
jeffjtk1234 wrote:This is a player empowerment era. If Mitchell didn’t want to be here he wouldn’t be dealt here.
If we make the playoffs within the next two years you won’t care about the pick flexibility imo.
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RipPizzaGuy wrote:OxAndFox wrote:I don't mind this trade at all. I am a Huerter believer. Just not exactly sure how much 3 he can play. I remember seeing him play some 3 against the Kings, but he would need to be there for extended periods with Monk on board.
I'm with Pizza on the pick thing. I'm sure Monte has a reason for doing '24 pick, but why not have it as '23 and try and get it out of the way? That way, if say the Kings make the POs next season he can go ahead with an all in move of being a PO contending team to a championship contender if/when a star wants out.
Exactly. Thank you!!!
I'm willing to accept maybe I'm underrating Huerter. But just get the pick out of the way so we have that flexibility moving forward!
RipPizzaGuy wrote:OxAndFox wrote:I don't mind this trade at all. I am a Huerter believer. Just not exactly sure how much 3 he can play. I remember seeing him play some 3 against the Kings, but he would need to be there for extended periods with Monk on board.
I'm with Pizza on the pick thing. I'm sure Monte has a reason for doing '24 pick, but why not have it as '23 and try and get it out of the way? That way, if say the Kings make the POs next season he can go ahead with an all in move of being a PO contending team to a championship contender if/when a star wants out.
Exactly. Thank you!!!
I'm willing to accept maybe I'm underrating Huerter. But just get the pick out of the way so we have that flexibility moving forward!
codydaze wrote:RipPizzaGuy wrote:OxAndFox wrote:I don't mind this trade at all. I am a Huerter believer. Just not exactly sure how much 3 he can play. I remember seeing him play some 3 against the Kings, but he would need to be there for extended periods with Monk on board.
I'm with Pizza on the pick thing. I'm sure Monte has a reason for doing '24 pick, but why not have it as '23 and try and get it out of the way? That way, if say the Kings make the POs next season he can go ahead with an all in move of being a PO contending team to a championship contender if/when a star wants out.
Exactly. Thank you!!!
I'm willing to accept maybe I'm underrating Huerter. But just get the pick out of the way so we have that flexibility moving forward!
To be fair, it's definitely early, but the 2023 draft looks like it's going to be a pretty deep and talented class. That's a reason I was actually pretty happy it starts as a 2024 first.
crutonimo wrote:Is it possible that the Kings still have their full MLE available?
Kings dump every cap hold, and get to about 8.5M in cap room. Kings sign Monk with caproom. Kings are pennies away from salary cap.
Trade with Atlanta (+4M salary) takes us over the cap.
Do Kings still get to use the MLE
OxAndFox wrote:codydaze wrote:RipPizzaGuy wrote:
Exactly. Thank you!!!
I'm willing to accept maybe I'm underrating Huerter. But just get the pick out of the way so we have that flexibility moving forward!
To be fair, it's definitely early, but the 2023 draft looks like it's going to be a pretty deep and talented class. That's a reason I was actually pretty happy it starts as a 2024 first.
Do you have a feeling one way or another that was Monte's reason for the '24 pick?
codydaze wrote:OxAndFox wrote:codydaze wrote:
To be fair, it's definitely early, but the 2023 draft looks like it's going to be a pretty deep and talented class. That's a reason I was actually pretty happy it starts as a 2024 first.
Do you have a feeling one way or another that was Monte's reason for the '24 pick?
Not necessarily but it is nice to have that '23 pick for sure.
crutonimo wrote:Is it possible that the Kings still have their full MLE available?
Kings dump every cap hold, and get to about 8.5M in cap room. Kings sign Monk with caproom. Kings are pennies away from salary cap.
Trade with Atlanta (+4M salary) takes us over the cap.
Do Kings still get to use the MLE
sackings916 wrote:crutonimo wrote:Is it possible that the Kings still have their full MLE available?
Kings dump every cap hold, and get to about 8.5M in cap room. Kings sign Monk with caproom. Kings are pennies away from salary cap.
Trade with Atlanta (+4M salary) takes us over the cap.
Do Kings still get to use the MLE
Interesting. Has it been confirmed the MLE was used on Monk?
Doesn't feel like any of this.OxAndFox wrote:
Sigh.
I'm going to
a) pretend you didn't post that
b) that he meant it as he's been held back in Atlanta and now he finally gets his chance
Who am I kidding?
I swear if the Kings don't start winning this season the NBA needs to sit down with the entire Kings ownership group and point it out. Start winning and get rid of the stink or move over and let someone else purchase the team who can operate it as a basketball franchise.
RipPizzaGuy wrote:Doesn't feel like any of this.OxAndFox wrote:
Sigh.
I'm going to
a) pretend you didn't post that
b) that he meant it as he's been held back in Atlanta and now he finally gets his chance
Who am I kidding?
I swear if the Kings don't start winning this season the NBA needs to sit down with the entire Kings ownership group and point it out. Start winning and get rid of the stink or move over and let someone else purchase the team who can operate it as a basketball franchise.
Welcome to NBA moment as in its a business, and 99% of players don't get to choose if they get traded or not.
I take this as no slight to sac at all. He resigned in ATL and probably intended to help that team win, suddenly a year later he sees the NBA is business lacking loyalty.
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This is a 23 year old kid who just resigned in Atlanta last year. I think he would have said the same thing if he got traded to GS or LA. It's not about the team he's getting traded to, it's the business of nba trades. ImoBoogieTime wrote:RipPizzaGuy wrote:Doesn't feel like any of this.OxAndFox wrote:
Sigh.
I'm going to
a) pretend you didn't post that
b) that he meant it as he's been held back in Atlanta and now he finally gets his chance
Who am I kidding?
I swear if the Kings don't start winning this season the NBA needs to sit down with the entire Kings ownership group and point it out. Start winning and get rid of the stink or move over and let someone else purchase the team who can operate it as a basketball franchise.
Welcome to NBA moment as in its a business, and 99% of players don't get to choose if they get traded or not.
I take this as no slight to sac at all. He resigned in ATL and probably intended to help that team win, suddenly a year later he sees the NBA is business lacking loyalty.
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I think he could've said the same if he were traded to Detroit or Indiana just as easily, doesn't matter
My personal desire is to have players who want to be here. Its just off putting when a player's reaction to being traded to your team is to say how much he wanted to stay with his current team (and a number of former Kings said the same about remaining here). And bonus points to those like Domas who embrace it