24-25 Trade Thread

[LightTheBeam]

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I've seen kings fans everywhere split. Go get Ingram, Kuzma, Grant... I think all of these players have some weaknesses Lauri included, but if I'm going all in I want Lauri.

Hes a shooter, he can get his own bucket, he's not selfish, he's got legit size 6'11-7.

I'm offering Huerter, 26 swap, 27 1st, 28 swap, 29 1st, 31 1st

I really don't care. Give me 5 good kings years with this roster and let us go all in for once.

[BoogieTime]

Lauri is the much better player, but that’s also means league wide attention and being outbid

[OxAndFox]

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I've seen kings fans everywhere split. Go get Ingram, Kuzma, Grant... I think all of these players have some weaknesses Lauri included, but if I'm going all in I want Lauri.

Hes a shooter, he can get his own bucket, he's not selfish, he's got legit size 6'11-7.

I'm offering Huerter, 26 swap, 27 1st, 28 swap, 29 1st, 31 1st

I really don't care. Give me 5 good kings years with this roster and let us go all in for once.

Yep. You have to shoot your shot right now. I doubt it's going to be enough to keep OKC away, but hey you can only do what you can.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Ainge would want Murray, Carter three unprotected 1sts and a swap

[Lost in LA]

Ainge would want Murray, Carter three unprotected 1sts and a swap

I can't see the Kings doing that

[BoogieTime]

Ainge would want Murray, Carter three unprotected 1sts and a swap

if Bridges had the value he had, after being inefficient and not good defensively recently, Lauri will be commanding that unfortunately. Maybe one less pick or swap.

Lauri is actually a hell of a player. His impact stats are pretty solid, pretty borderline franchise player type, and someone could possibly renegotiate and extend if Jazz take some salary

[LightTheBeam]

Ainge would want Murray, Carter three unprotected 1sts and a swap

if Bridges had the value he had, after being inefficient and not good defensively recently, Lauri will be commanding that unfortunately. Maybe one less pick or swap.

Lauri is actually a hell of a player. His impact stats are pretty solid, pretty borderline franchise player type, and someone could possibly renegotiate and extend if Jazz take some salary

Bridges didn't command anywhere near this. He was 4 1sts from a top 5 team, and a 1st from another top 5 team.

Bridges also has more value imo, his contract is better and he's a superior defender. + NY overpaid to because nova.

[Jkam31]

I want Monte try to get Ingram. Dude has flaws but he is a serious upgrade over what we have on roster.

This needs to happen we need more iso players cause that wins in the playoffs especially one that is as big as ingram. Out of the teams mentioned besides us we have Atlanta, Cleveland, and Philadelphia. Atlanta has already made a deal with them so they’re out, cleveland has to resign Mobley/mitchell next year, and Philadelphia can only offer picks. We can offer them rotational player on Barnes/Huerter plus a future first Philadelphia would have to throw a boat load of picks to beat our offer having only Paul Reed to trade

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I've seen kings fans everywhere split. Go get Ingram, Kuzma, Grant... I think all of these players have some weaknesses Lauri included, but if I'm going all in I want Lauri.

Hes a shooter, he can get his own bucket, he's not selfish, he's got legit size 6'11-7.

I'm offering Huerter, 26 swap, 27 1st, 28 swap, 29 1st, 31 1st

I really don't care. Give me 5 good kings years with this roster and let us go all in for once.

Agreed! Time is now not when fox/Sabonis are 30 with Lauri or Ingram we can compete for a championship for the next 3-4 years.

[LightTheBeam]

Some perspective here. If his ass doesn't do something this offseason it's time to go.

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[BoogieTime]

Ainge would want Murray, Carter three unprotected 1sts and a swap

if Bridges had the value he had, after being inefficient and not good defensively recently, Lauri will be commanding that unfortunately. Maybe one less pick or swap.

Lauri is actually a hell of a player. His impact stats are pretty solid, pretty borderline franchise player type, and someone could possibly renegotiate and extend if Jazz take some salary

Bridges didn't command anywhere near this. He was 4 1sts from a top 5 team, and a 1st from another top 5 team.

Bridges also has more value imo, his contract is better and he's a superior defender. + NY overpaid to because nova.

Your right about the contract outright but I'm not sure it would be an issue, as I can imagine part of the deal Jazz absorbing someone's contracts to allow for a renegotiate and extend if possible with their cap space. But that would be from a team like us who aren't too far into the cap

Top 5 team? I'm not sure the Knicks pre-Bridges roster was in another stratosphere other than playing in a weaker conference. I'm not sure Ainge is licking his chops over the picks from Sabonis/Lauri/Fox/Monk/Carter et al either

I do believe if we started a poll somewhere, Lauri's value would supersede. Bridges was coming off a season where his TS% wasnt where it should be and his defensive advanced were tailing and it being theory that those facets would revert back with less of a offensive role. Also I just feel Lauri is the superior player.

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I've seen kings fans everywhere split. Go get Ingram, Kuzma, Grant... I think all of these players have some weaknesses Lauri included, but if I'm going all in I want Lauri.

Hes a shooter, he can get his own bucket, he's not selfish, he's got legit size 6'11-7.

I'm offering Huerter, 26 swap, 27 1st, 28 swap, 29 1st, 31 1st

I really don't care. Give me 5 good kings years with this roster and let us go all in for once.

I try not to get frustrated man.

I remember some of us on this board wanted to try and get Lauri years ago for Bagley and some incentive when things weren't working out for the Bulls.

Now that we have the worse of the McDaniels, I remember talking here and elsewhere to try and move Bjelica and a second for a late first to draft Jaden and bad salary back. I'm pretty sure we could of pulled that off and people laughed at another site, for whatever reason they saw a lot of value in an older player when directionally we weren't there yet.

And how at #10 almost the whole board here wanted to draft OG. We traded it for the #15 & #20 and he was still there. People thought we were off wanting OG at 10.

We've had our opportunities in the past.

Now everything seems massively expensive.

[LightTheBeam]

if Bridges had the value he had, after being inefficient and not good defensively recently, Lauri will be commanding that unfortunately. Maybe one less pick or swap.

Lauri is actually a hell of a player. His impact stats are pretty solid, pretty borderline franchise player type, and someone could possibly renegotiate and extend if Jazz take some salary

Bridges didn't command anywhere near this. He was 4 1sts from a top 5 team, and a 1st from another top 5 team.

Bridges also has more value imo, his contract is better and he's a superior defender. + NY overpaid to because nova.

Your right about the contract outright but I'm not sure it would be an issue, as I can imagine part of the deal Jazz absorbing someone's contracts to allow for a renegotiate and extend if possible with their cap space. But that would be from a team like us who aren't too far into the cap

Top 5 team? I'm not sure the Knicks pre-Bridges roster was in another stratosphere other than playing in a weaker conference. I'm not sure Ainge is licking his chops over the picks from Sabonis/Lauri/Fox/Monk/Carter et al either

I do believe if we started a poll somewhere, Lauri's value would supersede. Bridges was coming off a season where his TS% wasnt where it should be and his defensive advanced were tailing and it being theory that those facets would revert back with less of a offensive role. Also I just feel Lauri is the superior player.

I'm of the opinion that GMs don't have a week by week opinion like some of us. Bridges was a former dpoy candidate, he's played in a bad situation of an awful team. NY didn't trade for him to be their #1 option.

So yes, as a #1 Lauri has more in his bag, although we know neither are capable of handling that role. As a #3 we know bridges has been there and been successful.

So between NY overpaying specifically to get Nova Bridges + contract + defense I have that worth more than what Lauri will fetch anyways.

One trade doesn't set standards. Dejounte just got traded for 2 1sts + a young bench defender.

Lauri should go somewhere between those 2, or he will stay in Utah.

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I've seen kings fans everywhere split. Go get Ingram, Kuzma, Grant... I think all of these players have some weaknesses Lauri included, but if I'm going all in I want Lauri.

Hes a shooter, he can get his own bucket, he's not selfish, he's got legit size 6'11-7.

I'm offering Huerter, 26 swap, 27 1st, 28 swap, 29 1st, 31 1st

I really don't care. Give me 5 good kings years with this roster and let us go all in for once.

I try not to get frustrated man.

I remember some of us on this board wanted to try and get Lauri years ago for Bagley and some incentive when things weren't working out for the Bulls.

Now that we have the worse of the McDaniels, I remember talking here and elsewhere to try and move Bjelica and a second for a late first to draft Jaden and bad salary back. I'm pretty sure we could of pulled that off and people laughed at another site, for whatever reason they saw a lot of value in an older player when directionally we weren't there yet.

And how at #10 almost the whole board here wanted to draft OG. We traded it for the #15 & #20 and he was still there. People thought we were off wanting OG at 10.

We've had our opportunities in the past.

Now everything seems massively expensive.

Ahh yup, we all wanted OG. Seems like yesterday. Our team is allergic to drafting wings who are always in premium demand. Then we are afraid to pay for a long term one, so we cycle through garbage ones hoping one will stick. All I know is if Barnes is the starting forward next year, Monte failed and it's time to start looking at replacing him.

[Lost in LA]

One of the key issues is whether Murray is untouchable. To me you have 2 main options:

a) you get a real third option player like Lauri and also strengthen small forward to bolster the starting unit-this requires that you move Murray, and these are maybe done in separate transactions. This is cap permitting and requires both Barnes and Huerter gone.

b) you add on a lower level player like Kuzma, and one more wing defender and retain Murray. You need to move one of Barnes or Huerter for this and possibly a pick.

If the goal is to a top 4 seed in the West, I think you do a) not b) as I do not believe we are that "close" for play off basketball style of play.

[OGSactownballer]

What seed did Dallas come in at?

They traded for depth around two stars. That depth carried them to the Finals by allowing their stars to do what they do best and not having to do the dirty work.

I think it’s “B” every day of the week because that also allows you to do what they did mid season and pivot to a better plan if what you try is not working.

Trading for Lauri or any player in that tier has to be an absolutely PERFECT move because the second you extend that guy at max you become cap locked for five years and with the new situation it is very quickly going to be a problem for a team that is not in one of the top desire cities. Even those teams are tripping g over it now as we are starting to see.

[Lost in LA]

I just feel that the drop off after Fox and Sabonis is really huge, and the Kings need a really strong clever playmaker who can both create and get his own basket when needed. It also has to be a forward, so you go after an Ingram and add defense, and take the risk that the back up forwards like Lyles and perhaps one other can play for 16-20 minutes a game in the regular season and 10-12 minutes in the play ofs. Dallas could not handle Boston's depth, and Denver spent too much energy in the regular season using its starting 5 and looked gassed. Minnestota is the wild card.

[BoogieTime]

Bridges didn't command anywhere near this. He was 4 1sts from a top 5 team, and a 1st from another top 5 team.

Bridges also has more value imo, his contract is better and he's a superior defender. + NY overpaid to because nova.

Your right about the contract outright but I'm not sure it would be an issue, as I can imagine part of the deal Jazz absorbing someone's contracts to allow for a renegotiate and extend if possible with their cap space. But that would be from a team like us who aren't too far into the cap

Top 5 team? I'm not sure the Knicks pre-Bridges roster was in another stratosphere other than playing in a weaker conference. I'm not sure Ainge is licking his chops over the picks from Sabonis/Lauri/Fox/Monk/Carter et al either

I do believe if we started a poll somewhere, Lauri's value would supersede. Bridges was coming off a season where his TS% wasnt where it should be and his defensive advanced were tailing and it being theory that those facets would revert back with less of a offensive role. Also I just feel Lauri is the superior player.

I'm of the opinion that GMs don't have a week by week opinion like some of us. Bridges was a former dpoy candidate, he's played in a bad situation of an awful team. NY didn't trade for him to be their #1 option.

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What are you talking about week by week? It’s year by year. And GMs are not like RealGMers, they are overly anal about every nook and crannie. When you have a city’s eyes on you and your job/legacy can turn at every wrong move you over analyze what you will do to death

[codydaze]

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Depending on the price, I really like Ingram here. He gas faults but I think what he brings would really help us.

[BoogieTime]

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Depending on the price, I really like Ingram here. He gas faults but I think what he brings would really help us.

Not a big Ingram guy, but it looks like we are going after everything we can - because of future cap concerns or Fox's extension stuff or whatever

Not sure what New Orleans would want, they seem like a win now destination. And the Gentry thing isn't worth noting Cunningham